If it's march or maybe even a couple games before the All star break, I get it, But what POP has started with resting guys in November, December, 20 something games in, is total BS.
Not only is it bad for the paying fans, what about the advertisers, the networks. How the hell is Lue going to rest Love, Irving, and LBJ for a road game against a quality opponent on prime time.
It's not just older players, it's young too. These guys get paid millions to work 5 months of the yr. I don't why you can't limit a players minutes for a few games, it's just so many better alternatives.
Kyrie is 24, jeez!!!
Its really not a good scene for Memphis! Cav's are a huge draw and folks pay big money. Advertisers pay big money. Suite owners pay big money.
League needs to respect WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM!!!!
Im a fan of Lebron but this is some serious bullshyt Cav's are pulling!!!!
This is the same conversation on sports versus entertainment.
The goals to win it all and entertain public every game may not always lineup.
So team leadership need to take their poison.
Any strategy has pros and cons.
Ultimately the end result put everything in place.
Like you burn what is still left from Rose/Melo/Noah during regular season and get swept in 1st round or even fail to get there when they go down in April.
Decisions... Decisions...
LBJ is a different story by himself, that guy is normally playing until JUNE (which seems like the last 8 yrs) so I understand him, but the rest of the league, cmon on now..
The league already cut back severely on Back to back games this yr. If you want to give a player rest, give him Noah type mins, 10 mins in the 1st half, 10 in the 2nd half. If you do that for 2 or 3 games, your keeping them fresh
I don't see anything wrong with this. It sucks as a paying fan but as a coach whose job is constantly on the line, they should do whatever they need to do to put themselves in the best position to succeed. I mean...We have fans on THIS site that would like to see Hornacek rest Melo on back 2 back games and limit Rose minutes. Its the smart thing to do
With that being said...I don't understand why Lue rested three of his best players for the SAME GAME. That didn't make sense....and if I was a Memphis player, I would be extremely disrespected.
Swishfm3 wrote:I don't see anything wrong with this. It sucks as a paying fan but as a coach whose job is constantly on the line, they should do whatever they need to do to put themselves in the best position to succeed. I mean...We have fans on THIS site that would like to see Hornacek rest Melo on back 2 back games and limit Rose minutes. Its the smart thing to doWith that being said...I don't understand why Lue rested three of his best players for the SAME GAME. That didn't make sense....and if I was a Memphis player, I would be extremely disrespected.
IM ok with Lebron taking a day off, and if the team said "he'll be not traveling to attend to a personel matter" I would be ok with that. At some point Love is rested for some back thing, no big deal and just rest!
but to blatantly do this to fans is wrong.
Fan money is the fuel for it all. Some where a kid has a Jersey he bought and is going to game and not just to see Lebron, but the champion Grizz!!!! Hundreds of dollars spent.
Hard for Memphis owner to not be spiteful!
ALL I can say is Memphis better come up with the win!!!!
Why don't the NBA take a page out of the NFL playbook and incorporate something similar to a bye week into everyone's schedule. Not a whole week, but at least twice per year a team gets a four or five day stretch of no games. Would this address the resting issue? For example, if Ty Lue knew he had a brief shut down stretch coming would he just wait rather than sit those guys out last night?
Meh. Teams are entitled to do what they think is best for their season. If you don't know that the price of your ticket doesn't guarantee seeing the best players, I've no sympathy for you.
If we'd rested Kidd and Amare a bit more a few years ago....
knicks1248 wrote:LBJ is a different story by himself, that guy is normally playing until JUNE (which seems like the last 8 yrs) so I understand him, but the rest of the league, cmon on now.. The league already cut back severely on Back to back games this yr. If you want to give a player rest, give him Noah type mins, 10 mins in the 1st half, 10 in the 2nd half. If you do that for 2 or 3 games, your keeping them fresh
LBJ is a well-appointed stooge. One of the ESPN radio tools replayed LeQ's comments on why he was sitting out Memphis. Sounded like a petulant moron. "I've paid my dues, I've been in the league 13 years....blah blah blah"
You're getting paid an insane amount of money to play a basketball game, you're not mining coal!
That said, the NBA should stop this back to back BS. This isn't baseball, where you could be getting paid to stand still in right field for an hour and a half and stand at the plate and go 0-4. 82 games is a long, drawn out death march at times, without dealing with playing 5 games in 8 nights.
And Pop is just a well-appointed scum bag. Glad he got extra seasons and rings out of Duncan, but eff him anyway for starting all this resting sheehit. Adam Silver is a douche for not fining Pop's arrogant azz the first chance he got for this.
Resting in DECEMBER!!! The last time I checked, the season ended in APRIL!!!
Yeah, and Melo's a DOUCHE for resting against the best team in the NBA and leaving KP's skinny little azz out to dry.
Im bothered by sitting, but also bothered by the way they are doing it.
I like Lebron but he is constantly trying to put himself above the game and while he has been better at things, this was a setback.
Its just massively disrespectful to fans who paid to see the reigning NBA champions with the worlds best player!
Sure it makes sense for all three to just take a day and throw the game rather than stagger them to rest, but its as if they are rubbing it in fans faces by doing so.
"Back in the day".....they played back to backs. This is now a problem for what ever reason!
THe product I saw in Charlotte after Knicks Hornets played to an overtime the night before was not the same game. I actually feared Melo or rose would not be playing for "Rest" purpose.
Need I actually temper my purchase based on back to backs? If this was a late season game and teams not vying for playoff position its very possible it happens. Fans spend hundreds to attend games.
Players are $100 million dollar properties BECAUSE FANS FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THEM AS DO TAX PAYERS WHO SUBSIDIZE THE ARENAS THEY PLAY IN!!!!!
If they want to rest, then stretch the season out or reduce games. Might be less money for them but what they did in Memphis was awful!!!! I'd say fine the Cav's and offer 50% refunds to those who paid. Same for aftermarket sales if they can prove it thru legit resellers. If Teams have to sell out a few million, they might reconsider. Also, just for a show of faith Lebron, Love and Kyrie should donate their pay to a Memphis Boys and Girls club that they did not earn that night!
Regarding Lebron, I get where he is coming from and that this man plays Thru June now 6 years in a row with barely any time off to heal. HIs nearly injury free existence is a testament to his genetic gifts but very hard work off the court to keep him going at an incredible level!!!! I agree he needs to be protected and the league needs to address this. The fans need protection as well.
I'd rather rest them than lose them to long term injury- case point, the latest person to speak out against resting players is D'Antoni, however he basically killed Kobe by playing him for entire games in the last stretch of that season that led to his achilles rupture, which kind of undermines his argument
However I do think fans should get some money back on tickets
New CBA STATES
The preseason will be shortened and the season will start earlierIn the team’s continued efforts to reduce the amount of travel and number of back-to-backs, the league will start the regular season a week earlier while limiting preseason games to only six. Back-to-backs have already been significantly reduced this season, and no team plays four games in five nights more than once.There has been groundswell for the league to completely eliminate back-to-backs, which may require shortening the traditional 82-game season. However, this small change will help reduce the travel fatigue that is concerning teams more than ever before.
The Cavs play the Grizzlies once a year in Memphis so I can understand why some folks were upset. Thought Melo could wait until the second half of the season to start resting games, but from the look of those last minute shots he took the other night, its not such a bad idea. Gives the younger players more PT as well.
Funny, these guys play fewer back to backs then ever, travel on private charter flights with meals, then stay in 5 star hotels, have the best physical therapy at their disposal and they pulling this crap!
I don't blame the players, I blame the league.
The league and its fans has to come before players resting.
I propose that if they want to rest, they do it on a home game, not an away. Home team fans at least have 41 opportunities to see their players. It still sucks as people travel to see games. Lots of fans come to NY for entertainment or visit with family and buy tickets. Still sucks if Melo/Rose/KP takes a nite off, but at least the odds are there. Teams sell season ticket packages and Cav's/Warriors are usually part of a package to entice.
So if they want to pull this crap, do it in your home arena!!!!!
knicks1248 wrote:New CBA STATESThe preseason will be shortened and the season will start earlierIn the team’s continued efforts to reduce the amount of travel and number of back-to-backs, the league will start the regular season a week earlier while limiting preseason games to only six. Back-to-backs have already been significantly reduced this season, and no team plays four games in five nights more than once.There has been groundswell for the league to completely eliminate back-to-backs, which may require shortening the traditional 82-game season. However, this small change will help reduce the travel fatigue that is concerning teams more than ever before.
The game is different than back in the day when they played back to backs and traveled by bus, and had real jobs during the off-season, but it's still a game. There are plenty of games stars are going to miss because of injury. If you have to rest after having 4 months off every year, something's wrong.
I agree. The problem is these teams make all their money on TV. They don't give two fucks about anyone that paid for a ticket. It's a joke. If the players need rest SHORTEN THE SEASON
knicks1248 wrote:New CBA STATESThe preseason will be shortened and the season will start earlierIn the team’s continued efforts to reduce the amount of travel and number of back-to-backs, the league will start the regular season a week earlier while limiting preseason games to only six. Back-to-backs have already been significantly reduced this season, and no team plays four games in five nights more than once.There has been groundswell for the league to completely eliminate back-to-backs, which may require shortening the traditional 82-game season. However, this small change will help reduce the travel fatigue that is concerning teams more than ever before.
It's all back of the rotation guys. I know it gets rid of 4 games in 5 days, but they should've reduced the amount of regular season games if teams are gonna keep resting dudes
smackeddog wrote:I'd rather rest them than lose them to long term injury- case point, the latest person to speak out against resting players is D'Antoni, however he basically killed Kobe by playing him for entire games in the last stretch of that season that led to his achilles rupture, which kind of undermines his argumentHowever I do think fans should get some money back on tickets
Where's the evidence that Kobe's injury was due to not resting or playing too many minutes? That's the missing piece to the puzzle. Can't really prove or disprove it. Brandon Jennings busted his achilles at
age 25 playing the
fewest average minutes per game of his career that season.
Its MDA's fault. Blame assigned. Not Kobe's work ethic or him NOT COMING OUT OF GAMES!!!
Kobe got hurt. It happens.
smackeddog wrote:I'd rather rest them than lose them to long term injury- case point, the latest person to speak out against resting players is D'Antoni, however he basically killed Kobe by playing him for entire games in the last stretch of that season that led to his achilles rupture, which kind of undermines his argumentHowever I do think fans should get some money back on tickets
Yeah. Not sure that it would have been easy to get Kobe to come out but I agree he needed to play fewer minutes that year. The game where he ruptured his achilles was brutal to watch. He got hurt several times before that and had no business being in the game if I recall correctly. It was like watching a boxing match where a guy gets knocked to the canvas a couple of times but the fight isn't stopped and finally he gets knocked down again and just doesn't get up.
