Hey, how bout we sell high and trade the fuhuquing Dirk wannabe in the suit?
BRIGGS wrote:Maybe he has a ntc but the start to mentally get to him one way or another needs to start. Start.
Mental is the key word here.
jrodmc wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Maybe he has a ntc but the start to mentally get to him one way or another needs to start. Start.
Mental is the key word here.
You're right mental is key. I thought you only crawled out after wins to tell us how good we are?
BRIGGS wrote:jrodmc wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Maybe he has a ntc but the start to mentally get to him one way or another needs to start. Start.
Mental is the key word here.
You're right mental is key. I thought you only crawled out after wins to tell us how good we are?
No Briggs, I comment pointlessly just like you, rain or shine. Don't get bitter. I read where people are hoping we trade for Greg Monroe now. You will be vindicated at last!
Knicks67 wrote:jrodmc wrote:Hey, how bout we sell high and trade the fuhuquing Dirk wannabe in the suit?
If you mean Kp, that's truly ridiculous
I thought the thought would fit with the mentality of yet another trade the guy with the NTC theme...
Vmart wrote:jrodmc wrote:Hey, how bout we sell high and trade the fuhuquing Dirk wannabe in the suit?
Who might get that be?
Unicorn may be bringing back of whatever can be gotten, yes?
The force is being of strong with that one.
BRIGGS wrote:Maybe he has a ntc but the start to mentally get to him one way or another needs to start. Start. Kp
Kuz
Jennings
Lee
Rose
6 th man melo
Oquinn
Noah
Holiday
We need another guard
One big problem is our owner has no cahones with melo
One game under .500 and go into total panic/meltdown mode?
Its not panic mode. It's recognizing the pattern. The team goes as Melo goes. He is inconsistent and refuses to play the system game.
The clip of JH just turning around disgustedly when Melo stopped the play and went ISO is all you EVER need to know about it.
JH is a good offensive coach. MDA is a great offensive coach. When the team plays the system it does well.
He is not going anywhere until the contract is up. Unfortunately neither is the team. Weak mind, weak character.
The MORON brigade. Melo as 6th man..Ummmm. No. The softest 7'3 guy at center yeah no. He is barely walking chasing down stretch 4's. I'm sure getting beat up nightly by real centers will be great for his body. Cheese at 4 he can't even defend the 50 year old ticket taker at MSG. Jennings the over dribbling point guard with 15 foot range at 3?... great. Lee who is as aggressive as a poodle on sedatives, cool. And Rose who has horse blinders on 75% of the time. Yep...Great game plan. Sign me up..maybe we can trade Melo for your boy Denzel Valentine. He is awesome.
jrodmc wrote:Vmart wrote:jrodmc wrote:Hey, how bout we sell high and trade the fuhuquing Dirk wannabe in the suit?
Who might get that be?
Unicorn may be bringing back of whatever can be gotten, yes?
The force is being of strong with that one.
Agree, trade him and Melo for every draft pick Briggs demands.
Chandler wrote:Melo as 6 man makes sense. He can't guard 3s and often shows lack of desire on 4s. Moving him to second unit lets him guard weaker players. It will Improve defense and ball movement on first unit. I would move lee to SF and promote holiday to first unit. Melo could play the 4 spot on second unit Calibrate expectations on trades. When he was better and a free agent he didn't get half of the interest he expected.
And of course I don't think this will ever happen
AH ignorant basketball fans. What will you do with Noah and his inability to do anything at 17M. What will you do with KP when he has Melo on bench and you realize his awesome crossover from 30 feet away just doesn't cut it when he is only focus by defense? What will you do with Lee when everyone is not watching Melo and leaving him open at 3pt line. What will you do with Rose when guy guarding Cheese or LT and not Melo are able to help when he penetrates? And in case you guys haven't noticed, Willy, Holiday, Cheese and everyone else on bench are all very inconsistent and not that good. But I guess the hard ons everyone gets the one time Kuz or Willy score a basket seems to take all the blood from their brains. Luckily JH is not so quickly aroused.
HofstraBBall wrote:Chandler wrote:Melo as 6 man makes sense. He can't guard 3s and often shows lack of desire on 4s. Moving him to second unit lets him guard weaker players. It will Improve defense and ball movement on first unit. I would move lee to SF and promote holiday to first unit. Melo could play the 4 spot on second unit Calibrate expectations on trades. When he was better and a free agent he didn't get half of the interest he expected.
And of course I don't think this will ever happen
AH ignorant basketball fans. What will you do with Noah and his inability to do anything at 17M. What will you do with KP when he has Melo on bench and you realize his awesome crossover from 30 feet away just doesn't cut it when he is only focus by defense? What will you do with Lee when everyone is not watching Melo and leaving him open at 3pt line. What will you do with Rose when guy guarding Cheese or LT and not Melo are able to help when he penetrates? And in case you guys haven't noticed, Willy, Holiday, Cheese and everyone else on bench are all very inconsistent and not that good. But I guess the hard ons everyone gets the one time Kuz or Willy score a basket seems to take all the blood from their brains. Luckily JH is not so quickly aroused.
Phil has a few screw ups. First was the contract to Melo and the second was Noah contract. Should of let Melo expire. The direction of team would have gone in another direction. With that said younger talent is better than old talent. At least with young talent you get upside and the old well deteriorate in front of our eyes. Every year we watch the best player deteriorate more and more.
Vmart wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Chandler wrote:Melo as 6 man makes sense. He can't guard 3s and often shows lack of desire on 4s. Moving him to second unit lets him guard weaker players. It will Improve defense and ball movement on first unit. I would move lee to SF and promote holiday to first unit. Melo could play the 4 spot on second unit Calibrate expectations on trades. When he was better and a free agent he didn't get half of the interest he expected.
And of course I don't think this will ever happen
AH ignorant basketball fans. What will you do with Noah and his inability to do anything at 17M. What will you do with KP when he has Melo on bench and you realize his awesome crossover from 30 feet away just doesn't cut it when he is only focus by defense? What will you do with Lee when everyone is not watching Melo and leaving him open at 3pt line. What will you do with Rose when guy guarding Cheese or LT and not Melo are able to help when he penetrates? And in case you guys haven't noticed, Willy, Holiday, Cheese and everyone else on bench are all very inconsistent and not that good. But I guess the hard ons everyone gets the one time Kuz or Willy score a basket seems to take all the blood from their brains. Luckily JH is not so quickly aroused.
Phil has a few screw ups. First was the contract to Melo and the second was Noah contract. Should of let Melo expire. The direction of team would have gone in another direction. With that said younger talent is better than old talent. At least with young talent you get upside and the old well deteriorate in front of our eyes. Every year we watch the best player deteriorate more and more.
Young proven talent is always good. But not a bunch of long shots. Just think fans all love the unknown and expect too much from the known. If it was up to some fans, we would have Winslow, Cheese, Jimmer, Lin, and Wroten rockin starter minutes. Most just don't understand how important it is to have a guy that takes so much attention away from other players. Does he need to fit in, absolutely. Does that take time, absolutely. Would I want to trade Melo for 3 guaranteed can't miss lottery picks, Yep. Is that gonna happen. No. He is our best realistic and actual possibility to win games and get in the playoffs. Just don't understand blaming him for all the bad play. No one has exactly been playing good ball. Noah? KP? The bench? Having Lee get hurt and having KP out doesn't help a team gel.
HofstraBBall wrote:Vmart wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Chandler wrote:Melo as 6 man makes sense. He can't guard 3s and often shows lack of desire on 4s. Moving him to second unit lets him guard weaker players. It will Improve defense and ball movement on first unit. I would move lee to SF and promote holiday to first unit. Melo could play the 4 spot on second unit Calibrate expectations on trades. When he was better and a free agent he didn't get half of the interest he expected.
And of course I don't think this will ever happen
AH ignorant basketball fans. What will you do with Noah and his inability to do anything at 17M. What will you do with KP when he has Melo on bench and you realize his awesome crossover from 30 feet away just doesn't cut it when he is only focus by defense? What will you do with Lee when everyone is not watching Melo and leaving him open at 3pt line. What will you do with Rose when guy guarding Cheese or LT and not Melo are able to help when he penetrates? And in case you guys haven't noticed, Willy, Holiday, Cheese and everyone else on bench are all very inconsistent and not that good. But I guess the hard ons everyone gets the one time Kuz or Willy score a basket seems to take all the blood from their brains. Luckily JH is not so quickly aroused.
Phil has a few screw ups. First was the contract to Melo and the second was Noah contract. Should of let Melo expire. The direction of team would have gone in another direction. With that said younger talent is better than old talent. At least with young talent you get upside and the old well deteriorate in front of our eyes. Every year we watch the best player deteriorate more and more.
Young proven talent is always good. But not a bunch of long shots. Just think fans all love the unknown and expect too much from the known. If it was up to some fans, we would have Winslow, Cheese, Jimmer, Lin, and Wroten rockin starter minutes. Most just don't understand how important it is to have a guy that takes so much attention away from other players. Does he need to fit in, absolutely. Does that take time, absolutely. Would I want to trade Melo for 3 guaranteed can't miss lottery picks, Yep. Is that gonna happen. No. He is our best realistic and actual possibility to win games and get in the playoffs. Just don't understand blaming him for all the bad play. No one has exactly been playing good ball. Noah? KP? The bench? Having Lee get hurt and having KP out doesn't help a team gel.
THhere is an element missing on the Knicks and that is a facilitator. They don't have one. Like you said Rose has blinders. The rest that isn't a strong point. I'm think a big guard like Holiday not the one on the team would work wonders next to Rose and might even benefit KP and Melo.
Let's face it the Knicks have an unstoppable one on one player in Rose and Melo is decent one on one it's when he goes against the entire opposition is when his poor shot selecting rears its ugly head. They need a facilitator that can help the distribution process. Someone put up a stat where Knicks are very good when the manage more that 20+ assists.
It will go a long way to add Holiday. I think defense will pickup also from the result of better distribution it helps players keep their focus when they know their efforts on defense also get rewarded on the other end.
Vmart wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Vmart wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Chandler wrote:Melo as 6 man makes sense. He can't guard 3s and often shows lack of desire on 4s. Moving him to second unit lets him guard weaker players. It will Improve defense and ball movement on first unit. I would move lee to SF and promote holiday to first unit. Melo could play the 4 spot on second unit Calibrate expectations on trades. When he was better and a free agent he didn't get half of the interest he expected.
And of course I don't think this will ever happen
AH ignorant basketball fans. What will you do with Noah and his inability to do anything at 17M. What will you do with KP when he has Melo on bench and you realize his awesome crossover from 30 feet away just doesn't cut it when he is only focus by defense? What will you do with Lee when everyone is not watching Melo and leaving him open at 3pt line. What will you do with Rose when guy guarding Cheese or LT and not Melo are able to help when he penetrates? And in case you guys haven't noticed, Willy, Holiday, Cheese and everyone else on bench are all very inconsistent and not that good. But I guess the hard ons everyone gets the one time Kuz or Willy score a basket seems to take all the blood from their brains. Luckily JH is not so quickly aroused.
Phil has a few screw ups. First was the contract to Melo and the second was Noah contract. Should of let Melo expire. The direction of team would have gone in another direction. With that said younger talent is better than old talent. At least with young talent you get upside and the old well deteriorate in front of our eyes. Every year we watch the best player deteriorate more and more.
Young proven talent is always good. But not a bunch of long shots. Just think fans all love the unknown and expect too much from the known. If it was up to some fans, we would have Winslow, Cheese, Jimmer, Lin, and Wroten rockin starter minutes. Most just don't understand how important it is to have a guy that takes so much attention away from other players. Does he need to fit in, absolutely. Does that take time, absolutely. Would I want to trade Melo for 3 guaranteed can't miss lottery picks, Yep. Is that gonna happen. No. He is our best realistic and actual possibility to win games and get in the playoffs. Just don't understand blaming him for all the bad play. No one has exactly been playing good ball. Noah? KP? The bench? Having Lee get hurt and having KP out doesn't help a team gel.
THhere is an element missing on the Knicks and that is a facilitator. They don't have one. Like you said Rose has blinders. The rest that isn't a strong point. I'm think a big guard like Holiday not the one on the team would work wonders next to Rose and might even benefit KP and Melo.
Let's face it the Knicks have an unstoppable one on one player in Rose and Melo is decent one on one it's when he goes against the entire opposition is when his poor shot selecting rears its ugly head. They need a facilitator that can help the distribution process. Someone put up a stat where Knicks are very good when the manage more that 20+ assists.
It will go a long way to add Holiday. I think defense will pickup also from the result of better distribution it helps players keep their focus when they know their efforts on defense also get rewarded on the other end.
I agree about Holiday but I don't see it happening. They love him in nola and were very supportive throughout his wife's struggles with her brain tumor. They also can pay him the most. He might be the most sought after free agent this summer.
