Cartman718 wrote:this loss is on the coach for bringing KP in and for not cussing Rose out for not moving the ball in the last 2-3 mins. he made shots, but those were all "save his own ass" type of plays. in the last 3 mins, how many assists did our players have??? where was the ball movement???
Now maybe everyone can see what I've been complaining about!!! They rely on ISO Melo or DIY Rose and that is not efficient or good for everyone else!!! KP got ICED by Jeff and his teammates!!!
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:this loss is on the coach for bringing KP in and for not cussing Rose out for not moving the ball in the last 2-3 mins. he made shots, but those were all "save his own ass" type of plays. in the last 3 mins, how many assists did our players have??? where was the ball movement???
Fellas...the knicks did everything right in that last possession--KP just shot an air ball! Not the coach's fault!
Yes it is, we should go for 2 and possible foul, there was no reason to shoot 3
Gudris wrote:why did they shoot a 3 if 2 would be enough ? Stupid last play
he makes that shot in his sleep...it was very good ball movement, you couldnt ask for a better shot..he folded like a rookie
Gudris wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:this loss is on the coach for bringing KP in and for not cussing Rose out for not moving the ball in the last 2-3 mins. he made shots, but those were all "save his own ass" type of plays. in the last 3 mins, how many assists did our players have??? where was the ball movement???
Fellas...the knicks did everything right in that last possession--KP just shot an air ball! Not the coach's fault!
Yes it is, we should go for 2 and possible foul, there was no reason to shoot 3
It was a wide open shot. KP hits those all the time.
HofstraBBall wrote:Cartman718 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Air ball?
i know that was bad, but you are bringing him in for a last second play after having his teammates freeze him out in the 4th?? why....rose, jennings, lee, melo, noah should have continued
He shot 30 freakin %. 3 rebounds! Stop
so if he shot bad in the game, why is the coach bringing him in for a last second play...what's the logic behind that do tell?
Cartman718 wrote:crzymdups wrote:This game was starting to feel a little like a redemption game for DRose. He made the right play at the end... but NOPE.
but how many "right plays" did he make in the last 3 mins??
He was 3-3 from the field for 6pts in last 3min, had an assist to Noah for a layup, had an alley oop pass to Melo that Embiid broke up, he made the right pass on the last play, after breaking down the defense to get KP wide open.
The problem, as always, is the defense. Rose is part of the defensive problem, but only part of the defensive problem.
crzymdups wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:KP sat out a long time but still should have done better with that shot.
The way we are playing and finding ways to lose I can't see us win more than 10 games rest of the way.Unreal
I'm ready to start scouting the draft.
Yeah me too.
That and hope we begin to give minutes to Hernangomez, Kuz, Baker. Let them get time.
After this game by Rose no way a GM won't give you a decent asset back like a 1st round pick. Just make it happen, cut your losses.
The worst thing happened today. We lost a game and KP was not involved or gained any experience. Rose n Melo had great games. That is what we have to avoid. KP must get more plays and more experience. Enough with the one on one from Rose n Melo. It's hurting the culture of this team.
One thing if we were winning playing this way. We are probably the worst team in the league during these last 14 games. Time to blow it up.
Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Coach should be fired
hornaceck has to go he has lost the team
Phil sold him out early in the season by naming Rambis defensive coordinator, then Mills or Phil sold him out again by how they handled Rose. Rose was allowed to openly say "F you" to the coach. How is he supposed to lead the team?
Hornacek should quit.
(Though again, I'll say it - are we sure Fisher was a bad coach? I think he was good... everyone made fun of me for saying that... I like Hornacek ok... but I think I'd rather have Fisher here now, particularly for this roster)
Look at the plus minuses of the players tonight, Rose -21, Melo -13, Porzinigs -4. How is that possible against the 76ers. Every starter had a negative plus minus its unbelievable
CrushAlot wrote:Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Coach should be fired
hornaceck has to go he has lost the team
Seems like they are running the triangle more which could mean something else.
The % of Triangle has increased and it's really alarmed me for a while now! This is why I've been complaining cuz this watered down version of the Triangle is not a good fit for these players. KP has almost no role in this offense.
The 3 top guys barely play off of each other! You never see great 2 man from Rose and KP or Rose n Melo or KP n Melo!! WHY???
crzymdups wrote:Cartman718 wrote:crzymdups wrote:This game was starting to feel a little like a redemption game for DRose. He made the right play at the end... but NOPE.
but how many "right plays" did he make in the last 3 mins??
He was 3-3 from the field for 6pts in last 3min, had an assist to Noah for a layup, had an alley oop pass to Melo that Embiid broke up, he made the right pass on the last play, after breaking down the defense to get KP wide open.
The problem, as always, is the defense. Rose is part of the defensive problem, but only part of the defensive problem.
the fact that he turned into iso-Rose for most of those 3 mins is not the right play. are you seriously saying that him looking for his own shot were the right plays in the last 3 mins when all night we were moving the ball around? please also check for how many seconds of those 3 mins when we had possession did he just stand and dribble the ball????
Cartman718 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Cartman718 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Air ball?
i know that was bad, but you are bringing him in for a last second play after having his teammates freeze him out in the 4th?? why....rose, jennings, lee, melo, noah should have continued
He shot 30 freakin %. 3 rebounds! Stop
so if he shot bad in the game, why is the coach bringing him in for a last second play...what's the logic behind that do tell?
If your a 7'3 Unicorn, you dont hide like a pussy by the 3pt line. Get your ass in there abd cut for a dunk. Like a Unicorn. Is this soft shit obvious to only me?
Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Coach should be fired
hornaceck has to go he has lost the team
Seems like every NY coach "losses the players". At what point is it the players fault. I am ready for a full rebuild. I am tired of seeing Melo, Rose and Noah. I rather have players who will listen to the coach and play like a team.
Gudris wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:this loss is on the coach for bringing KP in and for not cussing Rose out for not moving the ball in the last 2-3 mins. he made shots, but those were all "save his own ass" type of plays. in the last 3 mins, how many assists did our players have??? where was the ball movement???
Fellas...the knicks did everything right in that last possession--KP just shot an air ball! Not the coach's fault!
Yes it is, we should go for 2 and possible foul, there was no reason to shoot 3
It was caused by swinging the ball and ball movement. That was the wide open shot. You gotta hit rim on that, man, if you're KP! lmao
Even if we had won the game I would have been upset.
Offense is broken at this point...even when we score there is little teamwork at this point.
Lee is always the player to look at if you want to see if the team is moving the ball around.
That last play was one of the better ones we had in the game, to be honest. 42 baskets made only 20 assists...tells me something.
HofstraBBall wrote:Cartman718 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Cartman718 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Air ball?
i know that was bad, but you are bringing him in for a last second play after having his teammates freeze him out in the 4th?? why....rose, jennings, lee, melo, noah should have continued
He shot 30 freakin %. 3 rebounds! Stop
so if he shot bad in the game, why is the coach bringing him in for a last second play...what's the logic behind that do tell?
If your a 7'3 Unicorn, you dont hide like a pussy by the 3pt line. Get your ass in there abd cut for a dunk. Like a Unicorn. Is this soft shit is so obvious to only me?
it was an open shot so he took it, but you haven't really answered my question....?
Yeah Noah is stuck here for 3 more years we are screwed again
Clean wrote:Jmpasq wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Coach should be fired
hornaceck has to go he has lost the team
Seems like every NY coach "losses the players". At what point is it the players fault. I am ready for a full rebuild. I am tired of seeing Melo, Rose and Noah. I rather have players who will listen to the coach and play like a team.
nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:this loss is on the coach for bringing KP in and for not cussing Rose out for not moving the ball in the last 2-3 mins. he made shots, but those were all "save his own ass" type of plays. in the last 3 mins, how many assists did our players have??? where was the ball movement???
Now maybe everyone can see what I've been complaining about!!! They rely on ISO Melo or DIY Rose and that is not efficient or good for everyone else!!! KP got ICED by Jeff and his teammates!!!
there was no excuse for missing that shot, it didnt even hit the rim, i mean cmon dude..there was nobody within 10 feet of him..You gotta be ready..
People talk about franchise player, he is more of a complimentry player, that was a franchise moment and he falied big time, not to mention against the worse team in the league
anyone notice Melo did not even bother to put a hand up on that last shot? KP came from farther away than melo and at least put a hand up.
Cartman718 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Cartman718 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Cartman718 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Air ball?
i know that was bad, but you are bringing him in for a last second play after having his teammates freeze him out in the 4th?? why....rose, jennings, lee, melo, noah should have continued
He shot 30 freakin %. 3 rebounds! Stop
so if he shot bad in the game, why is the coach bringing him in for a last second play...what's the logic behind that do tell?
If your a 7'3 Unicorn, you dont hide like a pussy by the 3pt line. Get your ass in there abd cut for a dunk. Like a Unicorn. Is this soft shit is so obvious to only me?
it was an open shot so he took it, but you haven't really answered my question....?
Yes your right, JH should have left LT in.
