Knicks · Dolan/MSG not going to allow Phil to rebuild? (page 1)
I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
nyknickzingis wrote:With the word that Knicks wanted to do Love for Melo, I am thinking that Phil has a clear message from ownership and MSG. If you trade Melo, we want a star back. We will not be a team of nobodies around KP.I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
Dolan is all about star power. I think the presence of KP has probably allowed him to be open to letting Melo leave. But i'm sure he demands value back as well. He should know Knick fans are open to a rebuild as long as there is talent and a plan. Although recent threads here of trading KP and bench KP suggest patience will never be the strong-suit here, i think if Knicks fans adjust their expectations, they can handle a rebuild. But i am concerned that no young player will ever be allowed to grow. KP is in his 2nd year, at 21 years old averaging 19 pts, 7 rebs, and 2 blocks, and people are being extra critical of him during his slump coming off of an injury. It's a major problem for sure.
Philly did a tank/rebuild and it could take years. GSW did their thru draft, free agents and trades.
Phil signed Ropez and made a good trade for Rose. Rose might do better without Melo.
Dolan changed the franchise thinking when he hired Phil, so I won't hold him to the old starphuch theory. Phil has a directive to make the playoffs, and if he can't, firing him does not change that, but if we get youthier and better long term then the franchise moves in the right direction.
Nalod wrote:I agree, KP has star power. The rebuild is not a tank, its a rebuild on the fly.
Philly did a tank/rebuild and it could take years. GSW did their thru draft, free agents and trades.
Phil signed Ropez and made a good trade for Rose. Rose might do better without Melo.
Dolan changed the franchise thinking when he hired Phil, so I won't hold him to the old starphuch theory. Phil has a directive to make the playoffs, and if he can't, firing him does not change that, but if we get youthier and better long term then the franchise moves in the right direction.
I agree. I think there is a huge difference between tanking and rebuilding which some people cannot separate. It doesn't need to be drawn out or being as bad as possible for consecutive years. It needs to be making the most of your draft picks in a particular draft or two drafts, and finding young, value signings in free agency (basically more O'Quinn types) to build a supporting cast. Rebuilding can be fast and seamless, particularly when you have a starting point like we do. KP, Willy, draft picks, and cap space is some great momentum.
nyknickzingis wrote:With the word that Knicks wanted to do Love for Melo, I am thinking that Phil has a clear message from ownership and MSG. If you trade Melo, we want a star back. We will not be a team of nobodies around KP.How many players are still here from last year's team? How much more of a complete rebuild do you expect?I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
Welpee wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:With the word that Knicks wanted to do Love for Melo, I am thinking that Phil has a clear message from ownership and MSG. If you trade Melo, we want a star back. We will not be a team of nobodies around KP.How many players are still here from last year's team? How much more of a complete rebuild do you expect?I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
I wonder if Melo goes do we keep Rose?
Melo rejected MDA ball, was catered to by Woodson (Not a bad thing) and has not fully embraced the triangle. Time for Melo to move on??
nyknickzingis wrote:With the word that Knicks wanted to do Love for Melo, I am thinking that Phil has a clear message from ownership and MSG. If you trade Melo, we want a star back. We will not be a team of nobodies around KP.I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
I don't agree with this assumption. No matter how much Knicks fans have hated Dolan over the years for his meddling and whatever else he's still a smart man and has been unheard from for a couple of years now so i think he'd get behind it. Who's to say that Phil even wants to go full rebuild though? I can see him getting whatever draft picks and young players he can get for Melo and Rose and whoever else but i can also see him jumping right back into free agency this off season and getting a good mix of young players and veteran players. I guess we will see soon enough if we're able to trade Melo cause if we can't trade Melo then there really won't be any true rebuild coming.
Nalod wrote:Welpee wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:With the word that Knicks wanted to do Love for Melo, I am thinking that Phil has a clear message from ownership and MSG. If you trade Melo, we want a star back. We will not be a team of nobodies around KP.How many players are still here from last year's team? How much more of a complete rebuild do you expect?I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
I wonder if Melo goes do we keep Rose?
Melo rejected MDA ball, was catered to by Woodson (Not a bad thing) and has not fully embraced the triangle. Time for Melo to move on??
Question is if Melo goes does Rose resign or does other vet players sign here...
Nalod wrote:Welpee wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:With the word that Knicks wanted to do Love for Melo, I am thinking that Phil has a clear message from ownership and MSG. If you trade Melo, we want a star back. We will not be a team of nobodies around KP.How many players are still here from last year's team? How much more of a complete rebuild do you expect?I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
I wonder if Melo goes do we keep Rose?
Melo rejected MDA ball, was catered to by Woodson (Not a bad thing) and has not fully embraced the triangle. Time for Melo to move on??
No way should we keep Rose.
The Melo for Love offer was made because the Cavs literally have nothing else of value to give up. It makes sense for the Cavs to not do that. With the other destination being the Clippers, there also isn't a deal there that makes sense.
Knixkik wrote:Nalod wrote:Welpee wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:With the word that Knicks wanted to do Love for Melo, I am thinking that Phil has a clear message from ownership and MSG. If you trade Melo, we want a star back. We will not be a team of nobodies around KP.How many players are still here from last year's team? How much more of a complete rebuild do you expect?I think that is just the Dolan way, When has Dolan ever supported a complete rebuild? A year ago we weren't interested in trading for Love. A year later we are? I don't know. We were rebuilding slowly with Lopez, Grant. We trade that for an established star in Rose.
I get the feeling that Phil has to showcase some star and brand names because it is a show, and Dolan wants to present it as that. I hate that about this franchise, but it is just the way it always has been.
We won't ever get a real rebuild, so I think we just have to accept it. The best thing that can happen is for this team to somehow keep losing and end up high in the lottery, and get another steal like we did KP in 2015. Say we draft 9th or 10th, we could still get fortunate and get someone really good. Obviously the opposite can happen as well.
I just don't see Dolan allowing Phil to trade away Melo. I also don't see Dolan allowing Rose to be gone easily. History says about Dolan, once he has a star, he latches on to them. I hate that about this franchise. So Phil has to keep drafting well, through input from Gaines. One thing that I think Dolan has accepted, that Melo has to go. What worries me is that he accepts on that two conditions. 1) The team will be built with Rose as the alpha. 2) Phil will get an established star for Melo.
I wonder if Melo goes do we keep Rose?
Melo rejected MDA ball, was catered to by Woodson (Not a bad thing) and has not fully embraced the triangle. Time for Melo to move on??No way should we keep Rose.
Absolutely no way do i want Rose on this team with or without Melo on it. His defense is brutal and last night was one of the worse defensive efforts (i don't even wanna use the effort word when using Rose's name) i've seen all year from him. I just hope Phil can let his ego go and admit that his signing just didn't work so it's time to trade whoever we can trade out of every veteran on the team and start again.
y2zipper wrote:Trading Melo is a value proposition. The Knicks will be able to tank and rebuild themselves just fine whether Melo is on the roster or not, barring the acquisition of a better player. It's difficult because of the NTC and the limited amount of destinations, but trading Melo for little-to-nothing doesn't make any sense. The Knicks are probably going to need a third team to get something done here. Whatever the Knicks do is going to take years because they don't have the top talent to compete and the only way for the team to access that is through the draft. Moving Melo and letting Rose walk would make the rebuild go faster.The Melo for Love offer was made because the Cavs literally have nothing else of value to give up. It makes sense for the Cavs to not do that. With the other destination being the Clippers, there also isn't a deal there that makes sense.
The best deal we can make would have Boston involved in some wa cause they have the young players and draft picks that we need. I've already said this but the best trade would be with New York, Boston and the Clippers with Boston getting B.Griffin and the Clippers getting Melo and New York getting draft picks and young players. Of course each team would get other players in this deal but the main names should be Melo and Blake.
I also think Melo would be really good playing with R.Westbrook and they have some good pieces i'd want with the first one being Cameron Artist Payne but i don't see Melo wanting to go to OKC.
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The NBA's No-Man's Land: New York Knicks
BY BRETT KOREMENOS
JAN 26, 2017 1:56 PM
Championship or bust has been the motto this past decade in the NBA. As some franchises have loaded up on stars in an attempt to win championships, others have torn their rosters down to the studs in an attempt to land the next big thing. This season has been strange because more clubs than usual find themselves firmly in NBA limbo -- neither bad enough to land a top pick nor good enough to be more than playoff fodder.
Nine teams in particular find themselves in this no-man’s land. We’ll take a look at each of these club’s situations and examine how potential paths forward will affect their organization, the trade deadline and the league itself going forward.
Previous Editions: Chicago Bulls, Portland Trail Blazers
Next Up: New York Knicks
The Path to the Middle of the Pack:
With the additions of Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah to their roster already featuring Carmelo Anthony and Kristaps Porzingis, the Knicks undoubtedly grabbed their share of headlines this offseason. But even at the time, there were concerns that a team heavy in name-recognition would be light in actual substance. Even with a win this week against Indiana, New York is not doing much to prove preseason doubters wrong.
The Knicks are seven games under .500, mostly due to a 25th-ranked defense (which we’ll get back to in a bit). On the other side of the ball, there is a little more hope as New York currently sits 14th in offensive efficiency, per our RealGM rankings. On the surface that suggests that if the Knicks can tighten up the defense and allow the rapidly developing Porzingis to boost the offense into the league’s Top 10, the team would be a bonafide threat in the East.
The underlying numbers, however, tell a much different story. This New York team finds itself on the wrong end of a number of categories typically linked to good offense. The team ranks in the bottom third of the league in assist ratio (22nd), free throw rate (27th) and effective field goal percentage (20th), per NBA.com data. On top of that, the Knicks jack the most mid-range shots in the league and sit in the bottom five of shooting fouls draw, the latter according to NBAMiner.com’s research.
These are not the signs of a healthy offense. In fact, those numbers make you wonder how New York is actually in the top half of the league in terms of efficiency. Ironically, the reason the team is treading water offensively isn’t solely because of their star-studded trio of Rose, Porzingis and Anthony. A hidden factor in their quasi-success has a lot to do with one of the most blue-collar acts in basketball: offensive rebounding.
The Knicks are currently the fourth best team in the NBA when it comes to cleaning up their own misses. Noah (1st) and Kyle O’Quinn (8th) both sit in the top 10 of offensive rebound percentage, per our RealGM rankings, while Willy Hernangomez (31st) is no slouch himself. All those extra possessions help New York generate 15.1 second-chance points, good for third best in the NBA. Those extra points are a key reason why this team isn’t Sixers-level bad on offense.
While a boost to their offense, rebounding is also a factor into why the Knicks' defense is on the struggle bus. New York is ahead of only Boston when it comes to securing an opponent’s missed shot, per our RealGM database. So while they do a good job of giving themselves extra possessions on offense, the Knicks seem to give those right back on the other of the floor. And that’s just the start of their problems.
The Knicks get roasted by other teams in transition -- conceding the third-most opportunities in the league. New York also gives up the fifth most made shots in the restricted area, per NBA.com charting, and commits more shooting fouls than all but four teams (NBAMiner.com’s work). Noah isn’t (and hasn’t ever really been) a shot-swatting force, but a team that employs a positional smart big like him shouldn’t be this deficient in those areas.
Aside from the nights when Brandon Jennings is particularly feisty, the Knicks lack a perimeter player that’s consistently capable of impacting ballhandlers (though veteran Courtney Lee is solid). Poor perimeter containment -- whether it’s in isolation drives, closeouts or the pick-and-roll handler -- lead to both shots at the rim and the hasty rotations that result in shooting fouls. Given the makeup of New York’s roster, there’s only so much a scheme can do to eliminate this.
And obviously no discussion of the Knicks' defense can leave out Anthony. While exacerbated by head coach Jeff Hornacek’s haphazard scheme, Anthony’s defensive splits don’t paint a pretty picture. New York is over seven points better -- 103.2 to 110.4 -- on that end when Anthony is on the bench. Since the list of Anthony’s defensive deficiencies lurks in every corner of the internet, there’s no need to beat a dead horse (or a live one).
But in a new twist, the Knicks, despite seeing their offense still cratering when Anthony sits, are slightly better overall this season when their star forward is off the floor. This development is something to keep an eye because for years, Anthony’s monumental offensive impact typically made up for his, lack of impact, on the other end of the floor. If that stops being the case, it’s going to be interesting to see how teams value Anthony going forward -- whether it’s New York or someone else.
To pin this all on Anthony, however, would obviously be unfair. Another big issue has been the impact of Noah, or more aptly put, the lack of it. It’s become clear that either age or injuries (or both) has robbed Noah of the bite he had even just a few years ago, when he was voted the Defensive Player of the Year in 2014.
When he was on those Chicago team’s, Noah was an absolute menace in pick-and-roll defense. He’d play at or near the level of the screen, slide with ballhandlers and poke away stray dribbles. Hell, even getting a pocket pass through to the big against Noah was an exercise in futility.
Aided by better perimeter defenders and Tom Thibodeau’s demanding approach, Noah’s combination of mobility, aggressiveness and active hands gave opposing ballhandlers fits. It’s been a different story this year in New York,.Noah is noticeably more passive in those same pick-and-roll situations -- dropping further away from screeners and generally looking to simply contain ballhandlers rather than harass them. While it could be scheme-related, it seems more like Noah knows he’s lost a step. Every now and then, Noah gets exposed if he gets a little too aggressive trying to contain crafty ballhandlers -- something of a rarity back in his heyday.
New York was hoping they’d be getting 2014 Noah, a player capable of covering for the deficiencies of Anthony and Rose on the perimeter while Porzingis figures out the parts of NBA defense that aren’t blocking shots. Instead they have a center with a negligible effect on either end of the floor. That clearly isn’t what the team needs in order to contend with the league’s heavy hitters.
Between Noah and Anthony’s issues and an offense helped by their misfires, there isn’t a whole lot to suggest the Knicks have pieces that simply need more time in order to coalesce into a contender. So if that’s the case, where does that leave the Knicks?
Reload, Rebuild or Stand Pat?
It’s quite clear that the 21-year-old Porzingis is New York’s future. Anthony is 32 and despite his no-trade clause, already reportedly being shopped. The other big name, Rose, has even more strikes against him. He’s 28, in the last year of his contract and, injury-history aside (which is a big aside), doesn’t have a game that will age well.
And subjective musing and observations aside, there’s nothing in the numbers to suggest this Knicks team has some hidden potential. Three of New York’s four most-used 5-man lineups are getting smacked by opponents.
Lineup
Total Minutes
+/- Per 48
Rose-Courtney Lee-Anthony-Porzingis-Noah
374
-5.5
Brandon Jennings-Lee-Anthony-Porzingis-Noah
76
-6.9
Rose-Lee-Anthony-Lance Thomas-Noah
71
+16.1
Rose-Lee-Anthony-Porzingis-Kyle O’Quinn
55
-9.6
*All information NBA.com
Break it down a little further and you’ll see the power trio of Anthony, Rose and Porzingis is being outscored by 4.1 points per 48 in 688 minutes together -- a not insignificant number.
With a number of teams perhaps willing to give up some juicy assets in a vain attempt to catch the Warriors and Cavs, now might be the time to seriously look into offloading Anthony -- assuming he’ll waive his no-trade clause. The problem for New York will be the optics of any potential deal. Anthony’s suitors at the deadline -- teams like the Clippers and a handful of others -- won’t have much in the way of assets. Waiting until the summer could prove to be wiser as some interested teams may be capable of sliding Anthony into cap space left open from expiring contracts.
Given the issues facing the team, there doesn’t seem to be a combination of (realistically) available players that vault this flawed Knicks core into contender status. That should signal the team to move toward acquiring core pieces that can develop on Porzingis’ timeline, not Anthony’s. In a way, New York should look to copy how Milwaukee is slowly molding a future contender around their elite talent, Giannis Antetokounmpo (and they’ve done more than just tank to land Jabari Parker).
So while taking a path that lets Rose walk (or moving him at the February deadline) and/or ships Anthony is a step back, it doesn’t mean the Knicks are going full-tank mode. Unlike the Orlando and Philly teams that have stripped their rosters to the studs in recent years, New York already has the young centerpiece those two teams were hoping to find by being miserably bad. So going into full firesale -- as in desperately looking to offload veterans like Noah and Lee -- isn’t necessary.
Instead the Knicks should start devoting more serious minutes to some of the young prospects on their roster, like Marshall Plumlee, Ron Baker and Willy Hernangomez and see if any of them have what it takes to be part of a team contending when Porzingis hits his prime. If Anthony gets rankled by this or the general shift towards a Porzingis-featured offense, it would behoove New York to part ways with him sooner rather than later. Even if Anthony is sold for pennies on the dollar in terms of his perceived value, the developmental experience of Porzingis being at the top of every opponent’s scouting report would be immeasurable and accelerate his learning curve dramatically (if he approaches it the right way).
Because as the season drags on, it’s becoming more clear that the gamble they took on Rose and Noah this summer isn’t going to pay off for the Knicks. For New York, it’s time cut their losses and bet big on Porzingis’ future instead.
Rose, who is also in a contract year, has ceased trying to facilitate, ranking 39th in assist percentage just among point guards in the Eastern Conference.
SupremeCommander wrote:I think that what the Yankees did last year will make a "rebuild" more palatable for Dolan. Not only did the Yankees shed payroll, get younger, and get top prospects, they also became more competitive and ratings went up. That after years of hearing the Yankees couldn't or shouldn't ever rebuild. I think these billionaire owners talk and hopefully Dolan seeing the poster franchise for spending top dollar do a SUCCESSFUL mini rebuild on the fly inspires him to do something similarfingers crossed.... people freaked about the offseason "win now" moves. I think Noah is the only guy they have to keep. They could move Rose, Lee and Melo and get picks and expiring contracts back. Have a young core of guys on really small contracts, a few draft picks and a massive amount of cap space which I would put no pressure on them to use. There are a ton of options if they play it right.
fishmike wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I think that what the Yankees did last year will make a "rebuild" more palatable for Dolan. Not only did the Yankees shed payroll, get younger, and get top prospects, they also became more competitive and ratings went up. That after years of hearing the Yankees couldn't or shouldn't ever rebuild. I think these billionaire owners talk and hopefully Dolan seeing the poster franchise for spending top dollar do a SUCCESSFUL mini rebuild on the fly inspires him to do something similarfingers crossed.... people freaked about the offseason "win now" moves. I think Noah is the only guy they have to keep. They could move Rose, Lee and Melo and get picks and expiring contracts back. Have a young core of guys on really small contracts, a few draft picks and a massive amount of cap space which I would put no pressure on them to use. There are a ton of options if they play it right.
Dude, this is what many have been saying to do for like ten years.