I think after tonight there's no more "if this guy plays here or this lineup plays"
No matter what we try we are not good enough defensively
Gotta just develop good offense for next season and young players which in the last 2 games the team has done
Melo fell asleep. He was doing an okay job. I don't fault him on the inbounds play because there should have been help. You can't expect a guy to fight through screens and not give him help. This last play though he was just too focus on the ball. That was terrible defense by him.
Stick a fork in us...we're done with a trey and a foul. smh
Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Knixkik wrote:nixluva wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kristaps needs to go to Jokic school of basketballkyle oquinn is steady and under rated
Jokic is a nice player but so is KP. LET KP BE KP! He's not Jokic and I think KP is not even close to what he is gonna be as he physically matures. KP has another few levels he can go IMO.
Both players are great. Jokic is incredibly skilled. KP has way more upside though.
Why because he is 3 inches taller? That will help him with blocks but right now Jokic may actually be a better defender plus he rebounds like a real big.
No KP really does have more upside. KP seems to be one of those guys that develops slower. He's got more aspects of the game he needs to develop but you can see when he gets his body strength he's gonna get to another level Jokic can't get to.
those Knick color glasses must be awesome.
So you know KP IS DONE DEVELOPING??? STFU!
I never said he was but I also don't know if Jokic is done developing. You know the guy who is only a few months older than KP. I know it is hard for you to understand because you are a company guy.
Jokic is a talented and skilled player and he's developed very fast but some players reach there peak faster than others. IMO KP is a bit behind both physically and in his overall game. However when he finally figures things out and physically fills out I see a guy that can reach a higher level than Jokic at his peak. Case in point Jokic can't afford to get much heavier or slower as he ages. He's got an advantage right now but I can see how KP down the line could go higher.
He could develop a Kevin love type of consistent 3. He's already a better player inside. Meanwhile all that yellowboy did is express his opinion and you told him to STFU. Why don't you STFU for a change and LISTEN to logic?
I just LOVE the Knick fans that turn on their own guys. You can see it already. You can't wait to fall in love with a player from another team and assume we got the raw end. I see more upside in KP and you don't have to agree. Jokic has a well rounded game already. I just see more upside in KP. The only way we'll all know is with time. This can't be settled tonight.
Yes I agree but what can be settled is your abusive language. Own up to it.
nobody has turned on KP but some fans give credit to other players too.
4Q - 1:22
NYK 118 DEN 128
I've never seen a team get a lack of calls all year than this team. Jennings gets the steal and gets rolled over by Nelson. Just can't catch a break or defend.
Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Knixkik wrote:nixluva wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Kristaps needs to go to Jokic school of basketballkyle oquinn is steady and under rated
Jokic is a nice player but so is KP. LET KP BE KP! He's not Jokic and I think KP is not even close to what he is gonna be as he physically matures. KP has another few levels he can go IMO.
Both players are great. Jokic is incredibly skilled. KP has way more upside though.
Why because he is 3 inches taller? That will help him with blocks but right now Jokic may actually be a better defender plus he rebounds like a real big.
No KP really does have more upside. KP seems to be one of those guys that develops slower. He's got more aspects of the game he needs to develop but you can see when he gets his body strength he's gonna get to another level Jokic can't get to.
those Knick color glasses must be awesome.
So you know KP IS DONE DEVELOPING??? STFU!
I never said he was but I also don't know if Jokic is done developing. You know the guy who is only a few months older than KP. I know it is hard for you to understand because you are a company guy.
Jokic is a talented and skilled player and he's developed very fast but some players reach there peak faster than others. IMO KP is a bit behind both physically and in his overall game. However when he finally figures things out and physically fills out I see a guy that can reach a higher level than Jokic at his peak. Case in point Jokic can't afford to get much heavier or slower as he ages. He's got an advantage right now but I can see how KP down the line could go higher.
He could develop a Kevin love type of consistent 3. He's already a better player inside. Meanwhile all that yellowboy did is express his opinion and you told him to STFU. Why don't you STFU for a change and LISTEN to logic?
I just LOVE the Knick fans that turn on their own guys. You can see it already. You can't wait to fall in love with a player from another team and assume we got the raw end. I see more upside in KP and you don't have to agree. Jokic has a well rounded game already. I just see more upside in KP. The only way we'll all know is with time. This can't be settled tonight.
Yes I agree but what can be settled is your abusive language. Own up to it.
You can choose to ignore me but I'm not changing. KP has had many highly impressive games and has shown tons of ability as well. I don't like the trend of guys pissin on KP. You don't have to like my response but I know there's been a growing amount of critique that is premature IMO.
Melo is on fire.
The offense is fine.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:I've never seen a team get a lack of calls all year than this team. Jennings gets the steal and gets rolled over by Nelson. Just can't catch a break or defend.
Melo gets called for that foul every time though but every other guy its just a play on.
Thank goodness we have Rambis as our "defensive coordinator." Otherwise we might really suck at that end of the floor.
WP76 wrote:Thank goodness we have Rambis as our "defensive coordinator." Otherwise we might really suck at that end of the floor.
Not believing in the hot hand is great for the tank. Thanks Lee
4Q - 0:36
NYK 121 DEN 131
Just because he(jokic) is not define do not think he will ever work on his body
The Jok(ic) is on the Knicks tonight.
Dolan not only banned Oak but also banned playing defense on the Garden.
p.s. I want Rambis's job.
I just can't wait until Phil is gone when we read reports about how scouts pushed for Jokic but Phil wanted Cleanthony Early because he was a 4 year player.
Honestly, I hope a report will never surface like this but could you imagine Jokic and KP on the same team. I will admit having Willy softens the blow a little bit but my goodness is Jokic great at 21.
Could have tried doubling him but he is a good passer and they have a bunch of shooters.
