Knicks · Have the Knicks figured out their biggest problem on defense? (page 1)

newyorker4ever @ 2/13/2017 1:55 PM
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Defend the pick and roll.

matt @ 2/13/2017 2:17 PM
their biggest problem is they have bad defensive players so I would say no. One good win and the Knicks suddenly "figured it out"
nixluva @ 2/13/2017 2:30 PM
There is always the possibility for this team to improve defensively. I wish that this could've happened earlier in the season, but it is possible that with another healthy defender like LT in the mix along with HOliday and even Baker, that along with better execution could help to tighten up the D. They've always had the ability to be better. Not great but certainly better with more effort and better execution. I personally want Phil to break this up and truly Tank so we can try to build thru the draft at this point.

Right now the team is on the edge of a very nice lottery spot and of course they are also not for from the 8th spot in the playoffs but what does that get us? The Lottery is of more value long term.

BigRedDog @ 2/13/2017 4:07 PM
Problems on defense

Terrible transition defense- no one hustles back. Can Oquinn run? All I ever see is him jogging.
Terrible help defense- Very difficult in this league to cover one on one but whenever someone gets beat no one helps out- open lay ups.
Terrible coverage on 3 pt shooters. Players do a half ass help, which never works but they lay off of their men so much that they can't recover and leave open 3 pt shots.
Terrible pick and roll defense.
Terrible boxing out on the defensive glass.
Terrible hustle on loose balls- so many times we give up 2, 3 chances on defense.

Jmpasq @ 2/14/2017 5:53 AM
BigRedDog wrote:Problems on defense

Terrible transition defense- no one hustles back. Can Oquinn run? All I ever see is him jogging.
Terrible help defense- Very difficult in this league to cover one on one but whenever someone gets beat no one helps out- open lay ups.
Terrible coverage on 3 pt shooters. Players do a half ass help, which never works but they lay off of their men so much that they can't recover and leave open 3 pt shots.
Terrible pick and roll defense.
Terrible boxing out on the defensive glass.
Terrible hustle on loose balls- so many times we give up 2, 3 chances on defense.


Yeah, this is about right
TripleThreat @ 2/14/2017 6:30 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:Defend the pick and roll.


1) At minimum, you just need actual effort and commitment to defend

2) You need everyone to "buy in" If you have four guys burning it out on D, and one guy doesn't care, the efforts of 4 guys go to nothing and it kills morale

3) You need team "leaders" to set the example and take real pride in defense

I generally don't have a problem with players who simply push as hard as they can but have actual athletic/physical limitations to their game. I.E. a player can't be a better defender because it's not an actual capability of his skill set. He's giving everything he's got, and it's all he has.

Sarunas Marcilonius, a gem of a find by Don Nelson, was a pretty good 6th man. Could not defend to save his life. Because he was giving no effort? No, guy was full bore all the time, but he simply did not have it within him to do it. Can't blame a guy for what he simply cannot do from a physical/athletic standpoint.

However when you just don't give a sh!t, that's unacceptable. Rose and Melo could be much better defenders, they just don't care. They set a negative tone for the rest of the team. Younger players get a little bit of a pass, many need to learn how to play NBA defense and many don't have an established rapport with the refs.

Attitude and hard work fixes a lot. It's the difference between a lousy defense and an almost league average defense. It's also the difference between a good blowjob and a bad blowjob. It also is the difference in how good someone is at their job/career. Matters not just in the NBA, but all over real life.

EnySpree @ 2/14/2017 7:12 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Problems on defense

Terrible transition defense- no one hustles back. Can Oquinn run? All I ever see is him jogging.
Terrible help defense- Very difficult in this league to cover one on one but whenever someone gets beat no one helps out- open lay ups.
Terrible coverage on 3 pt shooters. Players do a half ass help, which never works but they lay off of their men so much that they can't recover and leave open 3 pt shots.
Terrible pick and roll defense.
Terrible boxing out on the defensive glass.
Terrible hustle on loose balls- so many times we give up 2, 3 chances on defense.


Yeah, this is about right

You just wrote out every possible defensive assignment...

In a nut she'll guys need to stop cheating and stay with their assignment. They lag off too much showing the double team. I rather a guy get beat one on one or at the rim than simply be giving a few layup or 3pt shot.

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