CrushAlot wrote:
Magic may have gotten more than Phil will get for Melo. Nice first trade.
CrushAlot wrote:CrushAlot wrote:
Magic may have gotten more than Phil will get for Melo. Nice first trade.
Also get rid of that log jam
CrushAlot wrote:
That's a good trade for the Lakers, but also really helps the Rockets this year.
CrushAlot wrote:CrushAlot wrote:
Magic may have gotten more than Phil will get for Melo. Nice first trade.
That's not better than Calderon, Dalembert, Ellington, Larkin, and picks.
nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nixluva wrote:corvetteknick wrote:After Phil and Jeannie broke up in December, him going back to the Lakers was not going to happen. Unless Dolan fires him - he's not going anywhere. Not sure he is going to be able to trade Melo at the deadline for a multitude of reasons, but if he can still declare a huge victory if he can find a taker for Rose/Noah by the deadline.
Lakers are in a good situation for Magic to take over and Phil is also in a good situation here in NY. Dolan won't interfere and Phil has picks. Phil is close to getting rid of Melo IMO. Phil can deal Rose and I actually believe Melo's people have convinced him to leave NY. It's the only logical thing to do at this point.
Its funny how you think trading melo will solve all of our problems, and his. You disregard melos family as if there just luggage, you make it seem like there are dozens of options for melo, and you have put all your faith in Phil, not just Phil, but anyone who is at the helm, as if they have had proven success..I don't care if its my mother, if she's failing at here position she's gone, or reassigned.
You have been the most optimistic fan on the face of the earth.You will give coaches and GM countless chances..I'm still trying to figure out how out that in November. You said playoffs or bust for Phil, and now you switched up..we both were like 50 wins is not unrealistic, 45 at best..
How many times will you bring your car to a mechanic and he keeps saying the problem is fix. Only to see he rides good for a wk before it brakes down again
I never said trading Melo Solves all our problems. It does make the most sense at this point. There's really no reason for Melo to stay at this point. If he does stay he will be with a team on a different timeline than his.
As for Phil I like his younger players and I feel good about he and his team's ability to select additional young talent. Of everything he's tried to do the young players are his best work.
As for this season I think there was a chance for this team to do more but it didn't happen. Whatever you want to point to this roster fell off and never improved from a decent start. So IMO it's time to move on. This was a test to begin with. Rose n BJ where given a chance to show if we should keep them and it didn't work as hoped.
IMO the answer isn't to yet again change the GM and Coach. They need to build on what they have with KP and Willy!!! Trading the older vets can help the process.
You want build through the draft like the lakers, 4 straight lotteries..
Randle, Ingram, Russell Clarkson, all great picks that got the GM fired, then they tried and throw a couple of vets on the roster, lou, hibbert, mosgov..yeah right.
When are we going to stop trying to get players to fit the system, and build a system that caters to players.
It's like acquiring John Stockton, and telling him to play like rose in this system, then forbid him from running pick N roll, only aspects of the triangle buddy..All of a sudden, stocktons numbers drops,he sucks and everyone wants him gone..Thats what it's been like around here
NO! The Lakers have literally nothing to do with the Knicks. A bunch of draft picks doesn't guarantee a GM will build a team from those picks that can win.
Your other beef with Phil wanting to run Triangle is overstated IMO. The Knicks have blended Spread PnR with some Triangle and the younger players actually don't seem to have a problem running this. They share the ball more and generally look more confident than Rose looks trying to run it.
Rose n Melo simply haven't worked here. They need to move on to a better situation that fits their games. The Knicks need to bring in players that fit the Team Ball they want to play. They will have that chance this summer and I don't see why you would be down on that.
Hmmm, exactly who has worked here in the last 3 1/2 yrs for more than a hot couple of weeks..
Get real NIX, im not no 20 something yr old that don't know better, I've been a fan since magic(lakes was my team) retired. Dude Our president has his buddy Rambis on the coching staff, and most can agree, he's trash.
You can't blend the triangle, you either run it 100% (and thats no ones 1st option on the bsketball planet), or you don't. This system we run is suspect on both ends, the games we do win now is all because of the talent, the one thing phil has been good at. But then you stick a gun to peoples head and say run my system or GTFO. Thats Toxic culture.
You Can't develop Top prospect in a losing atmosphere, thats why San Ann can draft anywhere 1 through 45. They bring guys into a winning mature professional atmosphere with stability.
Would you take a job wwith a company that had a revolving door, Cmon dude this is basics.
Phil Signed in March of 2014. Not even three full years.
When was the last time Mark Jax lived in NY? Get real, whats he going to do. Preach?
crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:
That's a good trade for the Lakers, but also really helps the Rockets this year.
It's a great deal for the rockets
I don't think this is a Starphuch... he was able to be part of Dodgers ownership and look at how good they look now... he's been a fantastic business owner that starts what has become successful businesses in downtrodden areas... He also owns a minor league baseball team that has sold out a ton of consecutive games...
While he is a star it ain't his first rodeo... I think he's more than qualified for the position. This is isn't like taking a $50 million flyer on Phil Jackson
