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nixluva wrote:Interesting!I agree. He put his name in for the draft last year and pulled out. He is 23 so I don't know if that means that he is just a free agent now or if he is draft eligible this year.
Can we bring in Shved and Lampe?
CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:Interesting!I agree. He put his name in for the draft last year and pulled out. He is 23 so I don't know if that means that he is just a free agent now or if he is draft eligible this year.
The Google/wikipedia says he went undrafted - so he should be a free agent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Jov...
After going undrafted in the 2016 NBA draft,...
holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...
Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Yes but Shved was actually able to see the floor and make passes. Shved was a good example of what a player can do in the Triangle even if he wasn't the best player. If we can add TALENTED 2 Way players who understand how to take advantage of the defense using the Triangle this team will improve
Significantly.
Bigs that can post, pass and shoot from all spots on the floor are PERFECT for the Triangle. So it makes sense that the Knicks would have interest in Euro bigs that have that kind of game!!!
holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Their games are nothing alike. Plus Shved is 6'6". He's really been hitting that three ball in Europe too. So 🤚
EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Their games are nothing alike. Plus Shved is 6'6". He's really been hitting that three ball in Europe too. So 🤚
3 balls??..I clearly remember him as a pick and roll penetrator of was often injured...He shot 30.6% from the three in the NBA and 40% from the field..
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Yes but Shved was actually able to see the floor and make passes. Shved was a good example of what a player can do in the Triangle even if he wasn't the best player. If we can add TALENTED 2 Way players who understand how to take advantage of the defense using the Triangle this team will improve
Significantly.Bigs that can post, pass and shoot from all spots on the floor are PERFECT for the Triangle. So it makes sense that the Knicks would have interest in Euro bigs that have that kind of game!!!
Not too long ago, you rejoiced at the fact that we are running another offense other than the triangle...Now the triangle lives..I don't get you...
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Yes but Shved was actually able to see the floor and make passes. Shved was a good example of what a player can do in the Triangle even if he wasn't the best player. If we can add TALENTED 2 Way players who understand how to take advantage of the defense using the Triangle this team will improve
Significantly.Bigs that can post, pass and shoot from all spots on the floor are PERFECT for the Triangle. So it makes sense that the Knicks would have interest in Euro bigs that have that kind of game!!!
Not too long ago, you rejoiced at the fact that we are running another offense other than the triangle...Now the triangle lives..I don't get you...
It's simple if you read my posts. If you have Rose and BJ then it only makes sense to run more SPREAD PnR! Now BJ is gone and Rose is the only guy that seems to struggle understanding the Triangle. Baker is more Triangle Saavy and Randle played Triangle in College.
Also I LOVE to study offenses. I actually buy the playbooks like MDA's SSOL and Tex Winters Triple Post Offense Book. Hornacek is NOT running a Traditional version of the Triangle!!! He even stated that they haven't even reached 50% Triangle usage. Horny is still blending concepts and tweaking the way they run the Triangle when they do.
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Yes but Shved was actually able to see the floor and make passes. Shved was a good example of what a player can do in the Triangle even if he wasn't the best player. If we can add TALENTED 2 Way players who understand how to take advantage of the defense using the Triangle this team will improve
Significantly.Bigs that can post, pass and shoot from all spots on the floor are PERFECT for the Triangle. So it makes sense that the Knicks would have interest in Euro bigs that have that kind of game!!!
Not too long ago, you rejoiced at the fact that we are running another offense other than the triangle...Now the triangle lives..I don't get you...
It's simple if you read my posts. If you have Rose and BJ then it only makes sense to run more SPREAD PnR! Now BJ is gone and Rose is the only guy that seems to struggle understanding the Triangle. Baker is more Triangle Saavy and Randle played Triangle in College.
Also I LOVE to study offenses. I actually buy the playbooks like MDA's SSOL and Tex Winters Triple Post Offense Book. Hornacek is NOT running a Traditional version of the Triangle!!! He even stated that they haven't even reached 50% Triangle usage. Horny is still blending concepts and tweaking the way they run the Triangle when they do.
So why don't you question Phil's moves if it seem counter to what he wants to run and the results later prove that the moves were wrong?
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Yes but Shved was actually able to see the floor and make passes. Shved was a good example of what a player can do in the Triangle even if he wasn't the best player. If we can add TALENTED 2 Way players who understand how to take advantage of the defense using the Triangle this team will improve
Significantly.Bigs that can post, pass and shoot from all spots on the floor are PERFECT for the Triangle. So it makes sense that the Knicks would have interest in Euro bigs that have that kind of game!!!
Not too long ago, you rejoiced at the fact that we are running another offense other than the triangle...Now the triangle lives..I don't get you...
It's simple if you read my posts. If you have Rose and BJ then it only makes sense to run more SPREAD PnR! Now BJ is gone and Rose is the only guy that seems to struggle understanding the Triangle. Baker is more Triangle Saavy and Randle played Triangle in College.
Also I LOVE to study offenses. I actually buy the playbooks like MDA's SSOL and Tex Winters Triple Post Offense Book. Hornacek is NOT running a Traditional version of the Triangle!!! He even stated that they haven't even reached 50% Triangle usage. Horny is still blending concepts and tweaking the way they run the Triangle when they do.
So why don't you question Phil's moves if it seem counter to what he wants to run and the results later prove that the moves were wrong?
Phil TRIED something different and it failed. His underlying plan is still very much intact. Despite this dalliance into a win now attempt Phil didn't sacrifice his plan for the future or completely trash his ability to build with Triangle capable players.
Phil still has his picks! He didn't commit to Rose or BJ. It was a test drive. Remember that Phil could afford to try this because he had already drafted KP, Willy and has 3 picks in the coming draft!!! There's no need for panic or despair.
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Yes but Shved was actually able to see the floor and make passes. Shved was a good example of what a player can do in the Triangle even if he wasn't the best player. If we can add TALENTED 2 Way players who understand how to take advantage of the defense using the Triangle this team will improve
Significantly.Bigs that can post, pass and shoot from all spots on the floor are PERFECT for the Triangle. So it makes sense that the Knicks would have interest in Euro bigs that have that kind of game!!!
Not too long ago, you rejoiced at the fact that we are running another offense other than the triangle...Now the triangle lives..I don't get you...
It's simple if you read my posts. If you have Rose and BJ then it only makes sense to run more SPREAD PnR! Now BJ is gone and Rose is the only guy that seems to struggle understanding the Triangle. Baker is more Triangle Saavy and Randle played Triangle in College.
Also I LOVE to study offenses. I actually buy the playbooks like MDA's SSOL and Tex Winters Triple Post Offense Book. Hornacek is NOT running a Traditional version of the Triangle!!! He even stated that they haven't even reached 50% Triangle usage. Horny is still blending concepts and tweaking the way they run the Triangle when they do.
So why don't you question Phil's moves if it seem counter to what he wants to run and the results later prove that the moves were wrong?
Phil TRIED something different and it failed. His underlying plan is still very much intact. Despite this dalliance into a win now attempt Phil didn't sacrifice his plan for the future or completely trash his ability to build with Triangle capable players.
Phil still has his picks! He didn't commit to Rose or BJ. It was a test drive. Remember that Phil could afford to try this because he had already drafted KP, Willy and has 3 picks in the coming draft!!! There's no need for panic or despair.
So you see no flaw in building towards a future with triangle centric players, once again, when we are all assured he won't be here to run it?..Is that a sound plan for the future of this organization?
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:EnySpree wrote:holfresh wrote:Only Euors willingly run the triangle??..Oh Phil...Euros are raised playing true organized basketball.... the US players are all in the AAU circuit aka "Just push the ball dribble the ball to death and shoot it"... that's why American players always complain about playing "That way".... it's embarrassing.
So I would totally welcome more european guys. Shved is a great player overseas. I'd welcome him back... bring Milos Teodosic too. Let's just go for it.
I'll respond to the other stuff but I find it funny you gravitate to a guy like Shved, who is Rose like, without the skills...
Yes but Shved was actually able to see the floor and make passes. Shved was a good example of what a player can do in the Triangle even if he wasn't the best player. If we can add TALENTED 2 Way players who understand how to take advantage of the defense using the Triangle this team will improve
Significantly.Bigs that can post, pass and shoot from all spots on the floor are PERFECT for the Triangle. So it makes sense that the Knicks would have interest in Euro bigs that have that kind of game!!!
Not too long ago, you rejoiced at the fact that we are running another offense other than the triangle...Now the triangle lives..I don't get you...
It's simple if you read my posts. If you have Rose and BJ then it only makes sense to run more SPREAD PnR! Now BJ is gone and Rose is the only guy that seems to struggle understanding the Triangle. Baker is more Triangle Saavy and Randle played Triangle in College.
Also I LOVE to study offenses. I actually buy the playbooks like MDA's SSOL and Tex Winters Triple Post Offense Book. Hornacek is NOT running a Traditional version of the Triangle!!! He even stated that they haven't even reached 50% Triangle usage. Horny is still blending concepts and tweaking the way they run the Triangle when they do.
So why don't you question Phil's moves if it seem counter to what he wants to run and the results later prove that the moves were wrong?
Phil TRIED something different and it failed. His underlying plan is still very much intact. Despite this dalliance into a win now attempt Phil didn't sacrifice his plan for the future or completely trash his ability to build with Triangle capable players.
Phil still has his picks! He didn't commit to Rose or BJ. It was a test drive. Remember that Phil could afford to try this because he had already drafted KP, Willy and has 3 picks in the coming draft!!! There's no need for panic or despair.
So you see no flaw in building towards a future with triangle centric players, once again, when we are all assured he won't be here to run it?..Is that a sound plan for the future of this organization?
You seem to have a misconception of what it means to be a Triangle capable player! Literally that just means any player with a high BB IQ, versatile skills and a Team Oriented mentality. The same Knicks kind of players on the Warriors, Spurs and Phil's Title Teams!!!
The key will be hopefully drafting another STUD or 2 and making better use of Free Agency. Phil seems to be getting back to his groove with getting a kid like Jovanovic.