Knicks · Positive Article on development of Knicks' Youth (page 1)

SocraticBallin22 @ 3/7/2017 3:29 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...

Uncle Phil has pretty much struck out in free agency and trades as a GM with the exception of maybe Lee, but what he has been able to do--which this article highlights--is bring in undrafted and 2nd round fringe talent and develop them into NBA players. The article cites, Willy, who was a 2nd round draft pick stash and has developed into-- at the very least-- a talented Center on a good team in a 8 man rotation. Also, Galloway, who went undrafted and we developed in the D league and made him into an NBA player. Now enter Baker and Randle, who had similar paths, and look like they could develop into solid rotation players. The jury is still out on Plumlee and N'Dour. Justin Holiday--receiving his first meaningful minutes in his career--has thrived and proven to be a 2 way player off the bench. Lance Thomas, who we picked up after he was waived and not even playing on his team following a trade, has become our best defensive player and has greatly improved his offensive game with giving him an opportunity and working with our coaching staff. Kuz, who was a Euro signing, has already proven he can score and slash in this league; however, needs to work on his defense. And, of course, Uncle Phil hit a home run by drafting KP. KP, Willy, Baker, Randle, Holiday, L. Thomas and Kuz are players to be excited about as a Knicks fan moving forward. Our scouts have found these players and our coaches have developed them into NBA players who already are useful role players in the NBA. They provide a young core for us moving forward on cheap contracts (not too mention we have a lottery pick coming and all our picks in the future; Phil is the first GM to not trade away our picks, which says a lot!). As much as it's easy to bash Phil, he has left us with a much brighter future and has given an opportunity and developed young talent since he's been here. We're not that far away from being a good team again.

nixluva @ 3/7/2017 3:40 PM
Nice! Thanks for posting this.

ORLANDO — The broad strokes paint this Knicks season as an unmitigated disaster. Same can be concluded about the entire Phil Jackson tenure, a concoction of losing and ill-fated do-overs, each more mind-numbing than the last.

The blunders and missteps have been rehashed, dissected and mocked. But that's not what this column is about. This is about something the Knicks have done right: Player Development.

Bereft of high draft picks besides Kristaps Porzingis, the coaching staff has been asked in many instances to turn water into wine, to transform young castaways into NBA rotation players.

They've responded by whipping together multiple success stories:

— Lance Thomas parlayed a 10-day contract into $27.5 million deal. He is now a starter with the Knicks, representing their best defensive player.

— Langston Galloway went from a 10-day deal to an All-Rookie selection and big money, although he got away, signing with the Pelicans.

Willy Hernangomez, a second-round pick, has been a revelation.
Willy Hernangomez, a second-round pick, has been a revelation. (ELSA/GETTY IMAGES)
— Willy Hernangomez, a second round pick, has improved markedly since joining the Knicks, developing into an offensive weapon at just 22-years-old.

— Nobody wanted Ron Baker in the draft, but he's starting for Jeff Hornacek, playing defense, and looking like a keeper.

— Chasson Randle showed during Monday's victory over Orlando that he's a capable floor general and system point guard, using the acumen developed with the Knicks Summer League and D-League teams. The Knicks now view him as a piece for the future.

— Justin Holiday, 27, never played meaningful minutes until joining the Knicks as a throwaway in the trade for Derrick Rose. Now he's averaging career highs in every major statistical category.

With the exception of Hernangomez, all the players listed above went undrafted. Three of them played for the Knicks' D-League team in Westchester. Every one of them exceeded expectations since joining the organization.

Justin Holiday was an extra part in the Derrick Rose trade. Now he’s a contributor.
Justin Holiday was an extra part in the Derrick Rose trade. Now he’s a contributor. (JOHN RAOUX/AP)
Much of the credit belongs to the Knicks assistant coaching staff, specifically Joshua Longstaff and David Bliss, who are consistently taking the younger players through drills and film. It's a ritual before every game. Kurt Rambis has also shown an interest in mentoring rookie Maurice N'Dour, who is waiting for his opportunity to demonstrate he belongs in the NBA.

The Knicks, like most NBA teams these days, employ an army as a basketball operations staff. There seems to be three staff members — whether in coaching, training or strength conditioning — for every player. But unlike Phil and his $60 million, they've given the Knicks returns on their paychecks.

As the Knicks season enters its Dog Days — when we're counting lottery ping pong balls instead of points scored — the aptitude of player development will step more to the forefront. The Knicks want to see what they have moving forward, and Monday night's victory over he Magic — with double-digit minutes doled out to Randle (24-years-old), Baker (23), Porzingis (21), Thomas (28), Holiday (27), Hernangomez (22), Kyle O'Quinn (26) and Mindaugas Kuzminskas (27) — was an encouraging sign.

Jackson's trades and top free agent signings have failed spectacularly, so the player development department has picked up the slack. Not enough to make the playoffs, of course, or to suggest the Knicks have cobbled together the pieces of a future contender. But at least to provide hope a pulse.

Nalod @ 3/7/2017 4:33 PM
If you look at the success of Jax Bulls and Lakers you see two things:

Jordan was a great scorer, but was not GOAT until he gave himself to the system.
Kobe won with PHil, not before, not after.

We know all this. What is really not apparent is the fact when look at the supporting casts it was the role players that thrived.
Big shot Rob, Fish, Pax, Kerr, Wennington, Purdue.......all had memorable "Moments" of hitting clutch shots in the finals.
Luc Walton, a second round pick was the glue guy on a few championship teams. Cartright was a compliment, Horace, Harper, Rodman.....guys past prime that had well defined roles.
BJ armstrong, Pax, Kerr, Fish.......non great athletes or great players, but did great things.

This team won 72 games. ON paper, its not that great!
http://www.basketball-reference.com/team...

My point is Phil and Krause were able to put together teams and support them with veteran players at good prices that had certain skill sets.
Im hopeful Rose might still be viable but the window for Melo I think has passed. I said "Hopeful", not that I believe in Rose, I hope he could still be "That" guy for us.
Rose will want too much money. Max money guys, or near max don't behave like he has.

CrushAlot @ 3/7/2017 4:34 PM
Great article and Bondy is a bit of a 'hater'.
franco12 @ 3/7/2017 4:58 PM
I do like some of the role players Phil et al have found.

However, one thing - it's a stark reminder of how bare this franchise has been as far as talent. Trading future first round picks does impact.

However, how can they be so good at finding undrafted gems and yet fuck FA's up so bad? And I'll include Melo since we did have a chance to let him walk?

Melo
Noah
Rose
Jennings

One's released, one is crippled, two were attempted to be traded and we found no deals worth taking.

Kinda like how Isiah seemed to find great talent in the draft.

Let's get someone else to make FA decisions, let Phil make all 2nd round picks and let Isiah make 1st rounders!

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