SocraticBallin22 wrote:franco12 wrote:I do like Rose. He may struggle in areas, but he attacks and has a lethal mid range game that is sometimes automatic.
Rose is playing some of his most efficient b-ball in the last few games. It really seems like he's finally getting the offense--knowing when to shoot the midrange (he's been deadly there) and when to drive (where he is still the best in the league).
I'll say this again: If Rose wants to come back, and he's willing to give us a discount and not request a MAX contract, is it worth bringing him back? There is no one better in free agency. And he's stayed healthy.
It's been kind of a mix bag of terrible and good with Rose recently but his Great games was efficient on a high volume that is carrying his TS% for the month of March.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Willy at 5, Melo at 4 and LT at 3. Only 2 3 pointers by Nets. The other night ?
Good point. It makes a huge difference. That and the bigs are playing the pick and roll better running out and over extending. Willy has been good at doing that.
Also, we are controlling the pace and playing under control in the half court set and executing. Nets have the fastest pace in the NBA and we have slowed them down. Part of that is Rose's stellar play lately.
True, really like Willy's all around fundamentals at the 5. Curious to see what happens next year with Noah.
HofstraBBall wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Willy at 5, Melo at 4 and LT at 3. Only 2 3 pointers by Nets. The other night ?
Good point. It makes a huge difference. That and the bigs are playing the pick and roll better running out and over extending. Willy has been good at doing that.
Also, we are controlling the pace and playing under control in the half court set and executing. Nets have the fastest pace in the NBA and we have slowed them down. Part of that is Rose's stellar play lately.
True, really like Willy's all around fundamentals at the 5. Curious to see what happens next year with Noah.
I would expect Noah to suit up in street clothes!
I know we score points and defense is our problem, but there are stretches where our offense looks like crap!
franco12 wrote:I know we score points and defense is our problem, but there are stretches where our offense looks like crap!
you can really say that about every non top 5 offense in the league.
yellowboy90 wrote:franco12 wrote:I know we score points and defense is our problem, but there are stretches where our offense looks like crap!
you can really say that about every non top 5 offense in the league.
Yeah most teams struggle for a stretch in a game on offense.
Where was that theory KP at 4 was the reason our D was bad?
Why is Plumlee on the team?
nyknickzingis wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:franco12 wrote:I know we score points and defense is our problem, but there are stretches where our offense looks like crap!
you can really say that about every non top 5 offense in the league.
Yeah most teams struggle for a stretch in a game on offense.Where was that theory KP at 4 was the reason our D was bad?
Well they would have scored 45 if KP was there. j/k
Melo 6-15
Rose 5-13
11-28 and high usage for both
Still offense is not the main problem. Defense is.
But Rose and Melo just can't get it done
Great for the tank if we lose this one
It's a good thing Melo is tanking his 3s( 0-6) tonight
nyknickzingis wrote:Melo 6-15
Rose 5-1311-28 and high usage for both
Still offense is not the main problem. Defense is.
But Rose and Melo just can't get it done
Great for the tank if we lose this one
really dude, try baker 2-10 willy 2 for 7 and some horrible defense by everybody..Losing to the worse team in the league twice in 5 days..
This is not a tank job, this is a triangle job..No kuz, no plummlee, chase 6 min...Wtf was the game plan, were not even developing anybody..
nyknickzingis wrote:Melo 6-15
Rose 5-1311-28 and high usage for both
Still offense is not the main problem. Defense is.
But Rose and Melo just can't get it done
Great for the tank if we lose this one
It sounds like you're saying offense is the problem?
Anyway, quality tank loss for the Knicks.
I'm okay with still playing the vets some, but they're playing even more minutes now than they were before and we're out of it. That makes no sense! And Randle gets benched again in the 2nd half. I don't understand it, but I guess it helps the tank playing the vets--even if they're not trying to lose.
knicks1248 wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:Melo 6-15
Rose 5-1311-28 and high usage for both
Still offense is not the main problem. Defense is.
But Rose and Melo just can't get it done
Great for the tank if we lose this one
really dude, try baker 2-10 willy 2 for 7 and some horrible defense by everybody..Losing to the worse team in the league twice in 5 days..
This is not a tank job, this is a triangle job..No kuz, no plummlee, chase 6 min...Wtf was the game plan, were not even developing anybody..
This is my biggest gripe. Really don't get it. We should be developing our young players--not playing them less minutes. We are out of it; Horny already conceded it.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:Melo 6-15
Rose 5-1311-28 and high usage for both
Still offense is not the main problem. Defense is.
But Rose and Melo just can't get it done
Great for the tank if we lose this one
really dude, try baker 2-10 willy 2 for 7 and some horrible defense by everybody..Losing to the worse team in the league twice in 5 days..
This is not a tank job, this is a triangle job..No kuz, no plummlee, chase 6 min...Wtf was the game plan, were not even developing anybody..
This is my biggest gripe. Really don't get it. We should be developing our young players--not playing them less minutes. We are out of it; Horny already conceded it.
This is bad when we're leaning on our vets for heavy minutes at home against the worst team in the league trying to win a meaningless game and we still lose.
Melo 37 minutes
Lee 35 minutes
Thomas 34 minutes
Rose 33 minutes
What the heck are we doing?
SocraticBallin22 wrote:This is bad when we're leaning on our vets for heavy minutes at home against the worst team in the league trying to win a meaningless game and we still lose. Melo 37 minutes
Lee 35 minutes
Thomas 34 minutes
Rose 33 minutes
What the heck are we doing?
Tanking!!! 
I can't believe fans were worried about Rose n Melo costing us wins
Melo 6-18
Rose 2 assists
Putrid D
Great tank commanders
Great tank win !!!!
The more this team tries to play the Triangle under Hornacek, the worse they look. They were trying to win tonight. Look at the vet minutes. This is embarrassing. How is it Phil has not addressed this mess since September?
SocraticBallin22 wrote:This is bad when we're leaning on our vets for heavy minutes at home against the worst team in the league trying to win a meaningless game and we still lose. Melo 37 minutes
Lee 35 minutes
Thomas 34 minutes
Rose 33 minutes
What the heck are we doing?
TANKING BABY!!!
Whatever the situation it no longer matters. This is about the draft now. There is nothing else. Like in the year we got KP it's better to completely fail than to be mediocre. That doesn't get you anywhere. This team has been on the edge of the best spots in the Lottery and we need every single Ping Pong Ball we can get. This team simply must rebuild. CLEARLY Rose and Melo aren't enough to make a difference. We must upgrade the talent level.
