Knicks · Z. Harper, A Guide for Tanking (page 1)
NEW YORK KNICKS: 27-45, 6TH HIGHEST LOTTERY ODDSRealistic best they can do: The New York Knicks are probably too competent to challenge Phoenix for the third best odds. But they’re well within a game of sliding below Philly and Orlando. The big tanking one for them and comes on the final game of the season. They host the 76ers, and that could be prime lottery positioning for them and Phil Jackson’s future.
How they should tank: Three quick and easy things the Knicks, and even their fans, can do to help this tanking process.
1) I think Jeff Hornacek is a good enough coach in this league. But if they want to get serious about tanking then they need to fire him, set him free, and put Kurt Rambis in place. The Knicks’ winning percentage is 37.5 percent this season. Rambis’ career win percentage as a coach is 28.4 percent, and that includes him going 24-13 with the 1999 Lakers.
2) You still employ Sasha Vujacic in 2017. The team is a -18.0 net rating in 28 minutes since the All-Star break with him in the game. Play The Machine.
3) Carmelo Anthony seems pretty annoyed at this idea of full-time triangle next season. This is where the fans come into play. Bring those musical triangles to the arena. Whenever Melo gets the ball, ring them incessantly like Kings fans in the early 2000’s. Melo may snap and completely try to subterfuge the rest of this season.
The impediment to tanking: Playing Anthony over Ron Baker. Since the All-Star break, the lineup of Derrick Rose, Courtney Lee, Carmelo, Lance Thomas, and Kristaps Porzingis is an impressive +12.1 per 100 possessions. But when you take Melo out and put Baker in his place, the Knicks drop to a -74.7 per 100 possessions. As much crap as Melo catches as a star, him playing over Baker is a recipe for non-tanking. What’s the opposite of tanking? A golf cart? The Knicks with this lineup are golf carting.
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CrushAlot wrote:NEW YORK KNICKS: 27-45, 6TH HIGHEST LOTTERY ODDSRealistic best they can do: The New York Knicks are probably too competent to challenge Phoenix for the third best odds. But they’re well within a game of sliding below Philly and Orlando. The big tanking one for them and comes on the final game of the season. They host the 76ers, and that could be prime lottery positioning for them and Phil Jackson’s future.
How they should tank: Three quick and easy things the Knicks, and even their fans, can do to help this tanking process.
1) I think Jeff Hornacek is a good enough coach in this league. But if they want to get serious about tanking then they need to fire him, set him free, and put Kurt Rambis in place. The Knicks’ winning percentage is 37.5 percent this season. Rambis’ career win percentage as a coach is 28.4 percent, and that includes him going 24-13 with the 1999 Lakers.
2) You still employ Sasha Vujacic in 2017. The team is a -18.0 net rating in 28 minutes since the All-Star break with him in the game. Play The Machine.
3) Carmelo Anthony seems pretty annoyed at this idea of full-time triangle next season. This is where the fans come into play. Bring those musical triangles to the arena. Whenever Melo gets the ball, ring them incessantly like Kings fans in the early 2000’s. Melo may snap and completely try to subterfuge the rest of this season.
The impediment to tanking: Playing Anthony over Ron Baker. Since the All-Star break, the lineup of Derrick Rose, Courtney Lee, Carmelo, Lance Thomas, and Kristaps Porzingis is an impressive +12.1 per 100 possessions. But when you take Melo out and put Baker in his place, the Knicks drop to a -74.7 per 100 possessions. As much crap as Melo catches as a star, him playing over Baker is a recipe for non-tanking. What’s the opposite of tanking? A golf cart? The Knicks with this lineup are golf carting.
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Don't show that stat to Bonn...
Jk, this is kinda proof that the big lineup was a big part of the problem. Playing Melo at the 4 with a more mobile guy like Lance solves a lot of problems. Imagine Josh Jackson next to KP and Melo? I mean, I'm ready to move on from Melo, but that would solve a lot of problems.
Not that I have any interest in winning games the rest of this year. We need to rest Rose, Melo, and KP as often as possible down the stretch. Lance, too.
crzymdups wrote:But wait I thought Melo and Rose were the problem?? I'm so confused.Josh Jackson with Melo and KP would be amazing. Josh Jackson with anybody would be pretty awesome.Jk, this is kinda proof that the big lineup was a big part of the problem. Playing Melo at the 4 with a more mobile guy like Lance solves a lot of problems. Imagine Josh Jackson next to KP and Melo? I mean, I'm ready to move on from Melo, but that would solve a lot of problems.
Not that I have any interest in winning games the rest of this year. We need to rest Rose, Melo, and KP as often as possible down the stretch. Lance, too.
CrushAlot wrote:NEW YORK KNICKS: 27-45, 6TH HIGHEST LOTTERY ODDSRealistic best they can do: The New York Knicks are probably too competent to challenge Phoenix for the third best odds. But they’re well within a game of sliding below Philly and Orlando. The big tanking one for them and comes on the final game of the season. They host the 76ers, and that could be prime lottery positioning for them and Phil Jackson’s future.
How they should tank: Three quick and easy things the Knicks, and even their fans, can do to help this tanking process.
1) I think Jeff Hornacek is a good enough coach in this league. But if they want to get serious about tanking then they need to fire him, set him free, and put Kurt Rambis in place. The Knicks’ winning percentage is 37.5 percent this season. Rambis’ career win percentage as a coach is 28.4 percent, and that includes him going 24-13 with the 1999 Lakers.
2) You still employ Sasha Vujacic in 2017. The team is a -18.0 net rating in 28 minutes since the All-Star break with him in the game. Play The Machine.
3) Carmelo Anthony seems pretty annoyed at this idea of full-time triangle next season. This is where the fans come into play. Bring those musical triangles to the arena. Whenever Melo gets the ball, ring them incessantly like Kings fans in the early 2000’s. Melo may snap and completely try to subterfuge the rest of this season.
The impediment to tanking: Playing Anthony over Ron Baker. Since the All-Star break, the lineup of Derrick Rose, Courtney Lee, Carmelo, Lance Thomas, and Kristaps Porzingis is an impressive +12.1 per 100 possessions. But when you take Melo out and put Baker in his place, the Knicks drop to a -74.7 per 100 possessions. As much crap as Melo catches as a star, him playing over Baker is a recipe for non-tanking. What’s the opposite of tanking? A golf cart? The Knicks with this lineup are golf carting.
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Summary: Melo is better than Baker in a lineup.
Why did you feel this was worthy to point this out to us?
martin wrote:Because I don't see Melo as the reason for the last three years of non playoff bball. I don't think the team is better with him off the floor. I also don't think moving Melo fixes that and I don't think the return that Phil would get makes it worth moving him. I am fine with moving Melo. I think it probably is the best for all parties. I am very uncomfortable with Phil being the guy to move him. I don't see anything... Guy on florida just made two underhand free throws and they got a steal to tie the game. I will finish this thought later.CrushAlot wrote:NEW YORK KNICKS: 27-45, 6TH HIGHEST LOTTERY ODDSRealistic best they can do: The New York Knicks are probably too competent to challenge Phoenix for the third best odds. But they’re well within a game of sliding below Philly and Orlando. The big tanking one for them and comes on the final game of the season. They host the 76ers, and that could be prime lottery positioning for them and Phil Jackson’s future.
How they should tank: Three quick and easy things the Knicks, and even their fans, can do to help this tanking process.
1) I think Jeff Hornacek is a good enough coach in this league. But if they want to get serious about tanking then they need to fire him, set him free, and put Kurt Rambis in place. The Knicks’ winning percentage is 37.5 percent this season. Rambis’ career win percentage as a coach is 28.4 percent, and that includes him going 24-13 with the 1999 Lakers.
2) You still employ Sasha Vujacic in 2017. The team is a -18.0 net rating in 28 minutes since the All-Star break with him in the game. Play The Machine.
3) Carmelo Anthony seems pretty annoyed at this idea of full-time triangle next season. This is where the fans come into play. Bring those musical triangles to the arena. Whenever Melo gets the ball, ring them incessantly like Kings fans in the early 2000’s. Melo may snap and completely try to subterfuge the rest of this season.
The impediment to tanking: Playing Anthony over Ron Baker. Since the All-Star break, the lineup of Derrick Rose, Courtney Lee, Carmelo, Lance Thomas, and Kristaps Porzingis is an impressive +12.1 per 100 possessions. But when you take Melo out and put Baker in his place, the Knicks drop to a -74.7 per 100 possessions. As much crap as Melo catches as a star, him playing over Baker is a recipe for non-tanking. What’s the opposite of tanking? A golf cart? The Knicks with this lineup are golf carting.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/harper-...Summary: Melo is better than Baker in a lineup.
Why did you feel this was worthy to point this out to us?
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:NEW YORK KNICKS: 27-45, 6TH HIGHEST LOTTERY ODDSRealistic best they can do: The New York Knicks are probably too competent to challenge Phoenix for the third best odds. But they’re well within a game of sliding below Philly and Orlando. The big tanking one for them and comes on the final game of the season. They host the 76ers, and that could be prime lottery positioning for them and Phil Jackson’s future.
How they should tank: Three quick and easy things the Knicks, and even their fans, can do to help this tanking process.
1) I think Jeff Hornacek is a good enough coach in this league. But if they want to get serious about tanking then they need to fire him, set him free, and put Kurt Rambis in place. The Knicks’ winning percentage is 37.5 percent this season. Rambis’ career win percentage as a coach is 28.4 percent, and that includes him going 24-13 with the 1999 Lakers.
2) You still employ Sasha Vujacic in 2017. The team is a -18.0 net rating in 28 minutes since the All-Star break with him in the game. Play The Machine.
3) Carmelo Anthony seems pretty annoyed at this idea of full-time triangle next season. This is where the fans come into play. Bring those musical triangles to the arena. Whenever Melo gets the ball, ring them incessantly like Kings fans in the early 2000’s. Melo may snap and completely try to subterfuge the rest of this season.
The impediment to tanking: Playing Anthony over Ron Baker. Since the All-Star break, the lineup of Derrick Rose, Courtney Lee, Carmelo, Lance Thomas, and Kristaps Porzingis is an impressive +12.1 per 100 possessions. But when you take Melo out and put Baker in his place, the Knicks drop to a -74.7 per 100 possessions. As much crap as Melo catches as a star, him playing over Baker is a recipe for non-tanking. What’s the opposite of tanking? A golf cart? The Knicks with this lineup are golf carting.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/harper-...Summary: Melo is better than Baker in a lineup.
Why did you feel this was worthy to point this out to us?
There were a large portion of people who said that the big lineup was the issue, playing Melo at the 3, not the 4. +12.1 net rating per 100 possessions, even over a relatively small sample size (not to mention the entire 2012-3 season) seems to bear that out. I think it's relevant. Also, it's not like he wrote the article.