Knicks · NBA player's association issues statement on Phil (page 1)

crzymdups @ 4/15/2017 10:15 PM

Masterful performance by Phil yesterday.

crzymdups @ 4/15/2017 10:19 PM
So if you're keeping score at home - Adam Silver has now stepped in with Dolan about Oakley and the players association has felt the need to say Phil was out of line. No other team is like this.
holfresh @ 4/15/2017 10:21 PM
Right..He is using his bully pulpit to subvert the tenet of the NTC...
CrushAlot @ 4/15/2017 10:45 PM
I was just chatting with fwk about how the nba might intervene with Phil.
crzymdups @ 4/15/2017 10:46 PM
Phil is killing our chances with free agents. Almost as much as Dolan.


Including our own current and future free agents like that unicorn fella.

holfresh @ 4/15/2017 11:11 PM
crzymdups wrote:Phil is killing our chances with free agents. Almost as much as Dolan.


Including our own current and future free agents like that unicorn fella.

Did you see Phil's reaction when asked about turning off perspective free agents because of how Melo was treated??..He is so out of touch..

yellowboy90 @ 4/15/2017 11:12 PM
Bump the NBAPA, they haven't talk to the young guys on this team if they did they would know better.
crzymdups @ 4/15/2017 11:13 PM
The National Basketball Players Association is after Knicks president Phil Jackson for his Friday remarks in which he trumpeted he wants to trade Carmelo Anthony and had told him he is better off elsewhere. Anthony has a no-trade clause.

In a statement released Saturday night, union director Michele Roberts said she has reported Jackson to NBA commissioner Adam Silver for “inappropriate comments.’’

“We voiced with the Commissioner today our view on the inappropriate comments by Knicks President Phil Jackson,’’ Roberts stated. “If players under contract cannot, under threat of league discipline, speak openly about their desire to be employed elsewhere, we expect management to adhere to the same standards. The door swings both ways when it comes to demonstrating loyalty and respect.’’

Anthony, too, seemed taken aback by the boldness of Jackson’s statements, issuing an Instagram with text “Really,” and three laughing emojis atop a photo of Leonardo DiCaprio from “The Great Gatsby.”

Union officials were aghast at Jackson’s strong language, more than anything. There has been a handful of players fined for public trade demands. One Knicks example occurred when Nate Robinson’s agent spoke out and Robinson got fined.

“It’s offensive and unabashed,’’ one union official said. “How does Adam sit there and not see it?”

Jackson’s remarks came in the wake of multiple media reports — including in The Post — the Knicks looked to trade Anthony at February’s deadline. The Post reported last week sources saying Knicks officials hoped Anthony expanded his destination list after the season.

For his part, Anthony said after Wednesday’s finale he would “love’’ to stay, but he would be “open’’ if Jackson communicated with him a desire to move on. Apparently, Jackson went too far in his public statements in Friday’s press conference, which broke a seven-month silence with local media.

“We have not been able to win with him on the court at this time,’’ Jackson said Friday. “I think the direction with our team is he’s a player who will be better off somewhere else and using his talents somewhere where he can win or chase that championships.’’

Jackson revealed Anthony’s advisors indicated to him last February a small handful of teams for which he would be “amenable’’ to waive his no-trade clause.

crzymdups @ 4/15/2017 11:14 PM
Melo's pal Chris Paul is President of the Player's Union, I believe.

It bears repeating - Melo is undefeated in power struggles.

yellowboy90 @ 4/15/2017 11:18 PM
crzymdups wrote:Melo's pal Chris Paul is President of the Player's Union, I believe.

It bears repeating - Melo is undefeated in power struggles.

I believe Melo is co-vice president or something in the PA.

crzymdups @ 4/15/2017 11:20 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Melo's pal Chris Paul is President of the Player's Union, I believe.

It bears repeating - Melo is undefeated in power struggles.

I believe Melo is co-vice president or something in the PA.

Melo flexing.

Regardless, Phil's comments were completely out of line. The entire league already knew he wanted to trade Melo, he didn't need to say it. Phil is playing a dangerous game here... Melo could easily just say "nah, I'm good. I want to help you rebuild." And Phil will be completely fucked.

CrushAlot @ 4/15/2017 11:44 PM
Minimally Silver needs to fine Jackson and the Knicks.
LivingLegend @ 4/15/2017 11:56 PM
crzymdups wrote:

Masterful performance by Phil yesterday.

LOL -- a few vaginas on this board actually believe they know more about the NBA then Mr 11 Championships.

Fact is Phil said nothing wrong and any player upset about his comments is a pussy on par with. melo.

crzymdups @ 4/16/2017 12:03 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
crzymdups wrote:

Masterful performance by Phil yesterday.

LOL -- a few vaginas on this board actually believe they know more about the NBA then Mr 11 Championships.

Fact is Phil said nothing wrong and any player upset about his comments is a pussy on par with. melo.

The "vaginas" on this board didn't file a complaint to the commissioner. The NBPA did. Stay classy.

nyk4ever @ 4/16/2017 12:09 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Minimally Silver needs to fine Jackson and the Knicks.

fine the knicks and jax for what? Phils comments were stupid but there was nothing to be fined over

Nalod @ 4/16/2017 12:17 AM
OMG, Players association is filing a complaint. Thats some soft shyt right here.
Phil told the truth. Phil, like Pop, and Riles is putting the team before good faste and decorum.
They complained to the comish, Wow, thats some serious stuff!!!!
Stay classy? Dude, Phil just got two more years.
crzymdups @ 4/16/2017 12:20 AM
Nalod wrote:OMG, Players association is filing a complaint. Thats some soft shyt right here.
Phil told the truth. Phil, like Pop, and Riles is putting the team before good faste and decorum.
They complained to the comish, Wow, thats some serious stuff!!!!
Stay classy? Dude, Phil just got two more years.

"Evident progress," right?

TripleThreat @ 4/16/2017 12:40 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Minimally Silver needs to fine Jackson and the Knicks.

For what?

No NBA team official, coach, player or anyone acting on official behalf of an NBA team can say or do anything that openly signals they are interested in the services of a player who is under contract to another NBA team.

Jackson is NOT declaring interest in any other player on any other roster under contract in the NBA. He's saying he wants to and tried to trade Carmelo Anthony. Which is pretty standard in all of pro sports. Tony Romo was/is under contract with the Dallas Cowboys. They've moved to Dak Prescott at their franchise QB. They haven't made it a secret in any public interviews that they'd be happy to trade Romo to a team that's a good fit for both the Cowboys needs and Romo if it works out.

The Jets have made it no secret that want to and likely will trade Sheldon Richardson.

In order to punish Phil Jackson, the NBA would have disbar any open discussion about team seeking to trade any of their players under contract. Which the league turned a blind eye to when Dwight Howard, Melo with Denver, LBJ in his last year in Cleveland the first time, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, etc were all on the trading block for their previous teams.

As the story goes, in the last major labor war, Dwayne Wade went off the rails, went completely nuts on David Stern, cussed at him and threatened him. And later when all the NBA owners had dinner together, they all LAUGHED. And what happened? The players got handed their lunch. The league was a nipple hair away from a hard cap and non guaranteed contracts as the standard. If anything, the players association has proven time and time again that they are a bunch of idiots. Billy Hunter screaming about a "fair deal" without ever acknowledging the tons of rank and file regular people who rely on NBA games for jobs and income from restaurants, bars, hotels, etc, etc. Derek Fisher and Hunter going to war with each other to see who could be the PA scapegoat when the owners steam rolled them. The response right after The Malice In The Palace. The general response over the dress code, which the NBAPA screamed racism and bigoted behavior by the league.

As the story goes, the ESPN broadcast right after the Malice incident, the former players on the panel took turns defending all the players on the court and their behavior. The word was that Stern blew his top and went insane over it. Because it was exactly the worse possible public response, it looked like the lunatics were all spoiled violent divas and thugs who were out of touch with any kind of reality or the average fan.

Every time the players go off the rails, in the next labor war, they get their lunch handed to them. The owners might hate Dolan, but he is one of them. Everything that happens between labor wars, Baron Davis getting fat and not caring, Eddy Curry hitting the sauce hard, Biedrins basically mailing it in so he could hammer the nightlife clubbing scene, all that gets held as a grudge and bled out later.

Fine Phil Jackson for WHAT EXACTLY?

The Players Association is pretty stupid. Because if the league goes after Jackson, they have to go after EVERY SINGLE PLAYER who has essentially committed tampering but held to a blind eye standard. The league understands that all the tampering talk is actually good marketing. What they want to avoid is COLLUSION. They don't want to mess with the 24.7.365 media storm that follows the NBA all year round.

What is the NBAPA going to do, send a harshly worded letter? You mean like the UN does when some rogue country decides to start ethnic cleansing? Sure, sure, you massacred a ton of people, here's a HARSHLY WORDED LETTER by some guy in a blue helmet!

If the NBAPA had some real bite, they would have hit Jackson hard already. Instead they sent a tough sounding email.

While the owners and Adam Silver are secretly laughing their asses off, maybe they should pool together a few bucks and Fed Ex Michele Roberts a blue helmet.

Too bad no one just has the balls to tell Melo straight up, from that PA, that if you play the game the right way, then you'll start to get called things you want to hear.

Dagger @ 4/16/2017 1:17 AM
Phil really dug his own grave with that NTC. He went all in thinking he could force Melo out and now he's making a fool of himself trying to claw his way out of a mess in which he has very little leverage. As always the real losers are the Knicks fans who are stuck with a horrible GM and a Primma Donna "superstar" who resists any change to his game that might actually get him to play at the level he thinks he is at. And the cherry on top is that the apparent saving grace of the franchise, our "unicorn", has now been poisoned by this dysfunction and is undermining management. What a wonderful culture we have here.
knicks1248 @ 4/16/2017 1:29 AM
crzymdups wrote:Melo's pal Chris Paul is President of the Player's Union, I believe.

It bears repeating - Melo is undefeated in power struggles.

Phil is a amature

knicks1248 @ 4/16/2017 1:30 AM
Nalod wrote:OMG, Players association is filing a complaint. Thats some soft shyt right here.
Phil told the truth. Phil, like Pop, and Riles is putting the team before good faste and decorum.
They complained to the comish, Wow, thats some serious stuff!!!!
Stay classy? Dude, Phil just got two more years.

He'e done...this is bad

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