Knicks · Jeremy Lin says racism he faced from opponents was worse in NCAA (page 1)

Marv @ 5/10/2017 10:47 PM
Insightful and well-expressed.
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While he said racist remarks as an Asian American are something he’s faced in the NBA, Jeremy Lin says his experience was far worse in college.
Lin, 28, said the racial slurs he received came from fans, opposing players and even a coach throughout his four-year career at Harvard.
Lin recalled his expereince at Cornell being the worst of it:
“The worst was at Cornell, when I was being called a c---k,” Lin said in an interview with his teammate on “Outside Shot with Randy Foye.” “That's when it happened. I don't know ... that game, I ended up playing terrible and getting a couple of charges and doing real out-of-character stuff. My teammate told my coaches, they were calling Jeremy a c---k the whole first half. I didn't say anything, because when that stuff happens, I kind of just, I go and bottle up - where I go into turtle mode and don't say anything and just internalize everything.”
He even had an opposing coach use an offensive slur against him on the road in Vermont.
“I remember, because I had my hands up while the Vermont player was shooting free throws -- their coach was like, 'Hey ref! You can't let that Oriental do that!' I was like, what is going on here?”
But fans at other schools also hurled nagative stereotypes as insult at him. Lin said that a Gerogetown fan shouted “chicken fried rice” and “beef lo mein” and “beef and broccoli” throughout the entire game, and that at Yale, fans heckled his appearance as well.
“They were like, ‘Hey! Can you even see the scoreboard with those eyes?’” Lin said.
However, as he has learned to deal with it, Lin said it doesn’t affect him the same way in the NBA.
“To this day in the NBA, there are still some times where there are still some fans that will say smaller stuff, and that is not a big deal,” Lin said. “But that motivates me in a different way.”
But now, the biggest challenge has been getting past stereotypes that come with being an Asian-American athlete, Lin said, especially at point guard.
“The biggest thing about me was no one had ever seen a player like me in terms of just my natural appearance,” Lin explained. “So coming out of college, everybody who criticized me was like, he is too weak and not fast enough and not athletic enough. And if you look at the combine stuff, me and John Wall were tied for first in the fastest sprint. So my speed and the stats were there, but every time they would write about me, they would say he is not going to be fast enough, he is not going to be strong enough, he is not athletic enough.”
For Lin now, he said he has more fully embraced his role within the Asian community as he looks to combat stereotypes and prejucies along the way.
“Everything was about being Asian in the NBA. At a point, I was like, man, just stop talking to me about being Asian,” he said. “And everyone would refer to me like, 'Linsanity!' 'Linsanity!' I was like dude, just stop calling me that name. It became a huge burden because I felt like I had to be this phenomenon for everybody else.
“And now when I say badge of honor, it's like, this is cool. I rep for all the Asians. I rep for all the Harvard dudes. I rep for the Cali guys. I rep for the underdogs. I take pride in it. It is not a burden to me anymore. I am not scared anymore. I appreciate it and want to help and challenge the world, stereotypes and everything.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...

BRIGGS @ 5/11/2017 1:35 AM
Jeremy lin was a show at Harvard. He was fun to watch because he was an aggressive athletic speedy player that you usually dont see in the Ivy league. Thats too bad people used derogatory comments--not needed.
ESOMKnicks @ 5/11/2017 5:26 AM
I don't get it. So, is it acceptable to hurl insults at players, as long as no racial slurs are used? What gives?
93BUICK @ 5/11/2017 5:41 AM
Marv! Haven't seen you post since Lin was a Knick- Fruity Drinks!
meloshouldgo @ 5/11/2017 6:34 AM
There are people on this board still invoking racial slurs against him in order to deflect blame from Melo. Stereotypes are intertwined with pro sports and racism isn't anything new in this country. In some cases it's people making poor decisions in other cares they just have poor taste or intentionally hurtful positions they like to espouse. Yet others can't stand success in any form if it doesn't happen to their own.
Marv @ 5/11/2017 7:04 AM
93BUICK wrote:Marv! Haven't seen you post since Lin was a Knick- Fruity Drinks!

Yea man - that was so long ago that charles oakley was being shown on the jumbotron for applause rather than to be fingered by the garden police!

Nalod @ 5/11/2017 10:12 AM
Marv wrote:
93BUICK wrote:Marv! Haven't seen you post since Lin was a Knick- Fruity Drinks!

Yea man - that was so long ago that charles oakley was being shown on the jumbotron for applause rather than to be fingered by the garden police!

Wait, Oak let somebody "Finger" him?

fishmike @ 5/11/2017 10:38 AM
Lin's a cool cat. Impressed his combine tested as fast as Wall. Thats a wow.
NYKBocker @ 5/11/2017 10:56 AM
Marv wrote:
Lin recalled his expereince at Cornell being the worst of it:
“The worst was at Cornell, when I was being called a c---k,” Lin said in an interview with his teammate on “Outside Shot with Randy Foye.” “That's when it happened. I don't know ... that game, I ended up playing terrible and getting a couple of charges and doing real out-of-character stuff. My teammate told my coaches, they were calling Jeremy a c---k the whole first half. I didn't say anything, because when that stuff happens, I kind of just, I go and bottle up - where I go into turtle mode and don't say anything and just internalize everything.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...

This is a natural asian reaction. Take it in and move on.

EnySpree @ 5/11/2017 11:25 AM
fishmike wrote:Lin's a cool cat. Impressed his combine tested as fast as Wall. Thats a wow.

If you remember summer league that year, Lin took it right to Wall. That right there shows you the racist undertone our society has. After that performance he still didn't get much of a shot in Dallas, golden State and rockets at first. The Knicks finally gave him that opportunity when he was looking at being out of the league at that point for no good reason.

I was a huge advocate for the guy. That year Harvard was on tv alot because of Lin. He was flat out nice. Think about it. He's from California... right nite that's the home of the pount guard. So many great point guards came from the Bay Area. That's who he is. It's a shame that all people saw was a Asian kid and didn't give him a shot.... as if he wasn't busting your favorite players ass right on national tv

Marv @ 5/11/2017 3:32 PM
Nalod wrote:
Marv wrote:
93BUICK wrote:Marv! Haven't seen you post since Lin was a Knick- Fruity Drinks!

Yea man - that was so long ago that charles oakley was being shown on the jumbotron for applause rather than to be fingered by the garden police!

Wait, Oak let somebody "Finger" him?

oh he wasn't letting . . .

Nalod @ 5/11/2017 4:08 PM
"touch me and see what happens........

http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/20/charles-oa...

93BUICK @ 5/11/2017 6:52 PM
I have one issue w Lin-
for all his openness about his life, linsanity, etc- He made a big mistake early- and I don't think he realizes it still-
When he had his success early on w Carmelo out there was right away questions about how they would play with Carmelo back-
Jeremy always looked to play the same game he played when he had his little run-w Melo in his mix- instead of putting that same energy into setting Melo up - I don't think he really understood what it is to be a consistent presence as a scorer in the NBA and didn't see how it's as important to set up a great player as it was Landry Fields et al-
KEEPCAMBYNY @ 5/16/2017 6:20 AM
EnySpree wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lin's a cool cat. Impressed his combine tested as fast as Wall. Thats a wow.

If you remember summer league that year, Lin took it right to Wall. That right there shows you the racist undertone our society has. After that performance he still didn't get much of a shot in Dallas, golden State and rockets at first. The Knicks finally gave him that opportunity when he was looking at being out of the league at that point for no good reason.

I was a huge advocate for the guy. That year Harvard was on tv alot because of Lin. He was flat out nice. Think about it. He's from California... right nite that's the home of the pount guard. So many great point guards came from the Bay Area. That's who he is. It's a shame that all people saw was a Asian kid and didn't give him a shot.... as if he wasn't busting your favorite players ass right on national tv

I actually read somewhere that during his draft workout with us, he had an absolutely awesome workout where he dominated for Walsh and D'Antoni to see, but of course they went with Andy Rautins instead.

Nalod @ 5/16/2017 7:52 AM
KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lin's a cool cat. Impressed his combine tested as fast as Wall. Thats a wow.

If you remember summer league that year, Lin took it right to Wall. That right there shows you the racist undertone our society has. After that performance he still didn't get much of a shot in Dallas, golden State and rockets at first. The Knicks finally gave him that opportunity when he was looking at being out of the league at that point for no good reason.

I was a huge advocate for the guy. That year Harvard was on tv alot because of Lin. He was flat out nice. Think about it. He's from California... right nite that's the home of the pount guard. So many great point guards came from the Bay Area. That's who he is. It's a shame that all people saw was a Asian kid and didn't give him a shot.... as if he wasn't busting your favorite players ass right on national tv

I actually read somewhere that during his draft workout with us, he had an absolutely awesome workout where he dominated for Walsh and D'Antoni to see, but of course they went with Andy Rautins instead.

#86 is back too!!!!!

Yeah, I remember that but in the end it was the knicks that ultimately bought him back and gave him his big chance.
For what its worth, that part of the "Linsanity" lore and I'm glad it was knicks that did it. Not any great "Branch Rickey" moment here, but it was big time fun!!!

Also, in the end knicks made the right financial call for them. Not that it amounted to anything.

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