Nalod wrote:nixluva wrote:Nalod wrote:nixluva wrote:From my point of view Phil is already FIXING IT! This wasn't about the entire team. Certain players had issues but the majority seem to have tried to comply with Jeff and Phil's instructions. I can't ignore the much better body language with Jeff and the players once BJ was gone and Rose went down. Baker n Randle stepped in and BOUGHT IN. they made mistakes but they did execute the game plan much better. I think having a team full of players that aren't resisting but are enthusiastic and giving max effort will make a huge impact. KP will fall in line along with everyone else. This should calm down.
Nix, I dig your positive spin and love, but This was less than a month ago that KP exhibited his defiance and its not that anyone has been negligent at all, its just not enough time.
Jenning and Rose fallen all happend before the season ended.
The fact is, we have no idea what KP's beef is. He might be pulling a diva act, or Phil is out of his mind and the team is a mess. KP did this before the Press conferance so we can't blame that.
KP was kept out of games and all the while was a big vocal about wanting to play.
Don't tell me what you feel, tell me what you know.
I'm stating what I've been able to see and can't speak on some mystery issue that seems to only have impact on KP. KP's last 3 games before tweaking his back were very strong and the team was still playing hard and responding to Jeff's coaching! The main incidents happened back in November when the team was 5-7 that's when the players called a meeting that Phil dropped in on!
According to Al Iannazzone of Newsday, Anthony feels good about the tone of the conversation and the potential implications of it.“I thought the players did a great job of just kind of voicing their opinion on kind of where we want to be, what type of team we want to be, where we want to go and things that we want to see change,” Anthony said after leading the Knicks with 31 points.
“The conversation was a long conversation. I don’t want to go into details about what we spoke about, but my guys responded very well to what was said in that meeting. As you can see, it was a different focus, it was a different mindset, it was a different energy that we approached the game with.”
Asked if team president Phil Jackson intervened in any way, Anthony happily stated that The Zen Master remained silent and gave the players the floor.
“Nah, he actually just listened this time,” Anthony said, “which is good.”
The lines of communication seem to be open, which can only help the Knicks develop team chemistry.
“There comes a point and time throughout the season where you have to re-evaluate things and step out of the situation, look into the situation, see what you can do better, look in the mirror at each other, at yourself, and see the things you can improve,” Anthony said. “We did that yesterday and today.
“I don’t want to say we won today because of the meeting, but you clear the air like that and guys speak out and talk and they don’t have to hold it in. They don’t feel pressured in the open forum. Guys spoke and everybody responded.”
Kristaps Porzingis said of Saturday’s sit-down, “We talked a lot about what we want to do, how we want to be better. We had a good meeting. We talked a lot of stuff through. We came out today playing the way we need to be playing.”
http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball...
The end result was a blown off meeting and his brother now sounding a warning shot.
So basically your pointing to an in season event, but the finality is a posture that is not consistent with a scenario you posted.
From what I can gather:
1. KP likes NYC.
2. KP not happy with Knicks.
Anything else is pure guessing.
The Player Meeting was back in Nov. 18th and the next issue was the Articles that came out around Dec. 7th when Phil commented on Melo. The Media basically instigated by pulling one aspect of what Phil said to make it seem more sinister than it actually was.
“Carmelo a lot of times wants to hold the ball longer than — we have a rule: If you hold a pass two seconds, you benefit the defense. So he has a little bit of a tendency to hold it for three, four, five seconds, and then everybody comes to a stop,” Jackson said in an interview with CBS Sports Network that aired Tuesday. “That is one of the things we work with. But he’s adjusted to [the triangle], he knows what he can do and he’s willing to see its success.”Jackson’s comments were prompted by a question about whether Anthony can fit in the triangle offense. Jackson made it clear he believes Anthony can.
“He can play that role that Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant played,” Jackson said. “It’s a perfect spot for him to be in that isolated position on the weak side, because it’s an overload offense and there’s a weakside man that always has an advantage if the ball is swung.”
"Carmelo's genuinely a solid person, a citizen, I think," Jackson said. "He has good intentions. I think some of the things that come along with him, I always say I can go back to [Syracuse coach Jim] Boeheim and say that was the zone that he played in college. But that's just a joke I have with him. The aspect of learning in the NBA and developing habits become entrenched, and sometimes you have to break those habits to change your manner of playing, and I think that's one of the things he's had to do with this new group of guys. It's a little bit different. He doesn't have sole possession of the offense. There are other people that are involved in the offense, and he embraces that. But then you still have habits you have to break, and I think that's one of the things.
Defensively, we've talked to him a lot about movement and that aspect of -- we're now into high-performance things, where we have cameras that can legislate or watch movement on the court all the time -- each have, you can go back and check that. We're trying to get him to get more active as a defensive player. That's one of the things that I think is noticeable, that he has changed. And we're liking that."
We've heard this stuff before from Jackson, and that's precisely why it's interesting. In an HBO interview all the way back in 2012, Jackson said that Anthony "has to be a better passer" and "the ball can't stop every time it hits his hands." After becoming the president of the Knicks in March 2014 and re-signing Anthony that summer, Jackson again said "the ball has to continually move" when discussing how Anthony can get better.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/phil-j...Then you have the Phil pushing for more Triangle that came at the end of Feb. The team was 24-36 at this point!
ORLANDO, Fla. — Jeff Hornacek acknowledged Knicks president Phil Jackson has influenced him into using more triangle offense — especially to enhance the team’s defense.And Jackson has a supporter in Kristaps Porzingis, who thinks the club should’ve used the triangle a lot more at the beginning of the season instead of Hornacek’s combo attack.
“[Phil and I] talk about it a lot,’’ Hornacek said. “The different things in the triangle you can do, calling it in out-of-timeout plays, some of the things Phil had said, some plays he used. We’re talking all the time. That came up in one of the discussions. It does give you better balance. We had guys getting stuck in the corner. That was part of [the decision].’’
Jackson’s theory on the triangle as a defensive helper is it establishes better floor balance with a two-man front and makes it easier to get back in transition. The Knicks’ transition defense has been poor all season, especially after Derrick Rose fails to convert on a drive.
A source said when the Knicks’ young players come in early to work out, Jackson gets on the court with them to show them triangle nuances.
There’s been an even greater focus on the triangle coming out of the break. However, according to Hornacek, the usage rate is “still not close to 50 percent of the time.’’
Porzingis, who made it back from a sprained ankle Wednesday after missing the previous two games, said he’s all for it.
“We should’ve been playing it from the beginning of the season,’’ Porzingis said. “We’re a little behind. I don’t know when we can finally start using it properly and making an impact.
“The whole first season we played nothing but the triangle. I know it pretty well. I like the offense. It can only work if everyone believes in it and everyone executes it the right way. We’re starting to learn it the way we should.’’
http://nypost.com/2017/03/01/how-phil-ja...
actually it is very funny.
