To take Josh Jackson for KP?
Sorry I mean Richaun Holmes not Okafor
Holmes 3-36-39 for kp
No. OK4 and Willy are redundant. Willy and KP are not. I like the direction of our young players. Its the older ones we cant get right.
BRIGGS wrote:To take Josh Jackson for KP?
Sorry I mean Richaun Holmes not Okafor
Holmes 3-36-39 for kp
So are you saying to trade KP for picks 3, 36 & 39 & Holmes?
That is a crazy deal that I don't see happening.
I would do it. I love KP, but not sold yet that he can be durable and with the trend in the NBA - I'd rather build with 2-3 uber skilled wings and then find role players up front. It's pretty much what is playing out with the final four now in the NBA.
franco12 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:To take Josh Jackson for KP?
Sorry I mean Richaun Holmes not Okafor
Holmes 3-36-39 for kp
So are you saying to trade KP for picks 3, 36 & 39 & Holmes?
That is a crazy deal that I don't see happening.
I would do it. I love KP, but not sold yet that he can be durable and with the trend in the NBA - I'd rather build with 2-3 uber skilled wings and then find role players up front. It's pretty much what is playing out with the final four now in the NBA.
Youre right. Id rather have Jackson than KP--but will Philly throw in Holmes and a couple of two's. I think that would change the composition to where I think the team should be.
KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
I like KP-but I have serious doubt about what you just said. This would change our team to a more athletic driven perimeter based team. We have cogs in the C
and then in the next year we trade josh jackson for who ever looks like they might be something , nope lets stick what what we know instead of saying he could be 18-8-2-2 from a 20 yr old second player is nice
BRIGGS wrote:fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
I like KP-but I have serious doubt about what you just said. This would change our team to a more athletic driven perimeter based team. We have cogs in the C
No way. We know what we have in KP. We have no idea what this draft looks like. I would not entertain any KP offers short of an Anthony Davis-type. Need to stop thinking constant major changes. Let's build something with this foundation we already have in place.
fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
ok, Fish - KP is a nice player. He's been exciting because he's the first potential stud draft pick we've gotten.
But he is far from the best player in the league- he hasn't shown me anything along those lines.
He's shown himself to be brittle. Will he ever play 82 games?
Will he ever be strong enough to perform throughout the entire year?
Can he be part of a winning franchise? Yes.
But I don't see him as a centerpiece or foundation that is built around.
Nice tall 7'3" euro center who shoots 3's, plays some nice defense, has the occasional highlight block or dunk, but fades during the year, has yet to prove that he can add muscle/heft to his frame and is always getting nicked and dinged.
Might he prove me wrong? Yes. But if Philly offered me that deal, I take it - in part because the league is going to be dominated by quick, athletic wings that can score from anywhere.
fishmike wrote:No. OK4 and Willy are redundant. Willy and KP are not. I like the direction of our young players. Its the older ones we cant get right.
Yup. Same here. I don't understand even entertaining the notion of trading away KP. I am really dumbfounded.
franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
ok, Fish - KP is a nice player. He's been exciting because he's the first potential stud draft pick we've gotten.
But he is far from the best player in the league- he hasn't shown me anything along those lines.
He's shown himself to be brittle. Will he ever play 82 games?
Will he ever be strong enough to perform throughout the entire year?
Can he be part of a winning franchise? Yes.
But I don't see him as a centerpiece or foundation that is built around.
Nice tall 7'3" euro center who shoots 3's, plays some nice defense, has the occasional highlight block or dunk, but fades during the year, has yet to prove that he can add muscle/heft to his frame and is always getting nicked and dinged.
Might he prove me wrong? Yes. But if Philly offered me that deal, I take it - in part because the league is going to be dominated by quick, athletic wings that can score from anywhere.
check what I wrote again.
If a 7'3 rim protector that can can score from anywhere and handle the ball isnt something you view as a foundation or worth building around than I just dont know what you are looking for.
Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
I like KP-but I have serious doubt about what you just said. This would change our team to a more athletic driven perimeter based team. We have cogs in the C
No way. We know what we have in KP. We have no idea what this draft looks like. I would not entertain any KP offers short of an Anthony Davis-type. Need to stop thinking constant major changes. Let's build something with this foundation we already have in place.
exactly. Lunacy. Knicks actually have franchise caliber talent and they wouldnt know if it crawled up their tushies. Yea lets trade KP.
fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
ok, Fish - KP is a nice player. He's been exciting because he's the first potential stud draft pick we've gotten.
But he is far from the best player in the league- he hasn't shown me anything along those lines.
He's shown himself to be brittle. Will he ever play 82 games?
Will he ever be strong enough to perform throughout the entire year?
Can he be part of a winning franchise? Yes.
But I don't see him as a centerpiece or foundation that is built around.
Nice tall 7'3" euro center who shoots 3's, plays some nice defense, has the occasional highlight block or dunk, but fades during the year, has yet to prove that he can add muscle/heft to his frame and is always getting nicked and dinged.
Might he prove me wrong? Yes. But if Philly offered me that deal, I take it - in part because the league is going to be dominated by quick, athletic wings that can score from anywhere.
check what I wrote again. If a 7'3 rim protector that can can score from anywhere and handle the ball isnt something you view as a foundation or worth building around than I just dont know what you are looking for.
I know what you wrote. I just don't see it developing. I think franchise talents were very obvious in their first/second years.
I could be wrong. But, trading KP for 3 picks in this year's draft? That is too much to turn down.
Granted, Philly is not making that deal.
franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
ok, Fish - KP is a nice player. He's been exciting because he's the first potential stud draft pick we've gotten.
But he is far from the best player in the league- he hasn't shown me anything along those lines.
He's shown himself to be brittle. Will he ever play 82 games?
Will he ever be strong enough to perform throughout the entire year?
Can he be part of a winning franchise? Yes.
But I don't see him as a centerpiece or foundation that is built around.
Nice tall 7'3" euro center who shoots 3's, plays some nice defense, has the occasional highlight block or dunk, but fades during the year, has yet to prove that he can add muscle/heft to his frame and is always getting nicked and dinged.
Might he prove me wrong? Yes. But if Philly offered me that deal, I take it - in part because the league is going to be dominated by quick, athletic wings that can score from anywhere.
check what I wrote again. If a 7'3 rim protector that can can score from anywhere and handle the ball isnt something you view as a foundation or worth building around than I just dont know what you are looking for.
I know what you wrote. I just don't see it developing. I think franchise talents were very obvious in their first/second years.
I could be wrong. But, trading KP for 3 picks in this year's draft? That is too much to turn down.
Granted, Philly is not making that deal.
Most teams would be interested in trading for KP with the confidence that they can develop him into a superstar. Celtics, for example, would develop him to be the #1 guy as their current core players age. Whether he gets there is an unknown, like any other elite young player. But the talent and opportunity for him to develop into a franchise-caliber player is absolutely there.
Knixkik wrote:franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
ok, Fish - KP is a nice player. He's been exciting because he's the first potential stud draft pick we've gotten.
But he is far from the best player in the league- he hasn't shown me anything along those lines.
He's shown himself to be brittle. Will he ever play 82 games?
Will he ever be strong enough to perform throughout the entire year?
Can he be part of a winning franchise? Yes.
But I don't see him as a centerpiece or foundation that is built around.
Nice tall 7'3" euro center who shoots 3's, plays some nice defense, has the occasional highlight block or dunk, but fades during the year, has yet to prove that he can add muscle/heft to his frame and is always getting nicked and dinged.
Might he prove me wrong? Yes. But if Philly offered me that deal, I take it - in part because the league is going to be dominated by quick, athletic wings that can score from anywhere.
check what I wrote again. If a 7'3 rim protector that can can score from anywhere and handle the ball isnt something you view as a foundation or worth building around than I just dont know what you are looking for.
I know what you wrote. I just don't see it developing. I think franchise talents were very obvious in their first/second years.
I could be wrong. But, trading KP for 3 picks in this year's draft? That is too much to turn down.
Granted, Philly is not making that deal.
Most teams would be interested in trading for KP with the confidence that they can develop him into a superstar. Celtics, for example, would develop him to be the #1 guy as their current core players age. Whether he gets there is an unknown, like any other elite young player. But the talent and opportunity for him to develop into a franchise-caliber player is absolutely there.
but if I am making a bet today on 'can he get there', I'm betting no.
Do I trade him for a bag of peanuts - no. But if the celts offered me the first pick in the draft, you're crazy to say no. The only reason I would hesitate is to keep them from changing their minds.
franco12 wrote:Knixkik wrote:franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:KP could be the best player in the league. You dont entertain those trades. You just dont.
ok, Fish - KP is a nice player. He's been exciting because he's the first potential stud draft pick we've gotten.
But he is far from the best player in the league- he hasn't shown me anything along those lines.
He's shown himself to be brittle. Will he ever play 82 games?
Will he ever be strong enough to perform throughout the entire year?
Can he be part of a winning franchise? Yes.
But I don't see him as a centerpiece or foundation that is built around.
Nice tall 7'3" euro center who shoots 3's, plays some nice defense, has the occasional highlight block or dunk, but fades during the year, has yet to prove that he can add muscle/heft to his frame and is always getting nicked and dinged.
Might he prove me wrong? Yes. But if Philly offered me that deal, I take it - in part because the league is going to be dominated by quick, athletic wings that can score from anywhere.
check what I wrote again. If a 7'3 rim protector that can can score from anywhere and handle the ball isnt something you view as a foundation or worth building around than I just dont know what you are looking for.
I know what you wrote. I just don't see it developing. I think franchise talents were very obvious in their first/second years.
I could be wrong. But, trading KP for 3 picks in this year's draft? That is too much to turn down.
Granted, Philly is not making that deal.
Most teams would be interested in trading for KP with the confidence that they can develop him into a superstar. Celtics, for example, would develop him to be the #1 guy as their current core players age. Whether he gets there is an unknown, like any other elite young player. But the talent and opportunity for him to develop into a franchise-caliber player is absolutely there.
but if I am making a bet today on 'can he get there', I'm betting no.
Do I trade him for a bag of peanuts - no. But if the celts offered me the first pick in the draft, you're crazy to say no. The only reason I would hesitate is to keep them from changing their minds.
You'd need more than just the first overall pick because there are no gaurantees it'll produce a player that has star-caliber potential like KP. But I'd absolutely do the trade if they included that pick, Jaylen Brown and a pick swap with the Nets' pick in 2018.
