Knicks · How available do you think Klay Thompson is? (page 1)

He's being reduced to Courtney Lee because of all the talent in Golden State. Could we actually make a play for Klay?

Lee, Thomas and a future pick for Klay... that made me laugh lol... but seriously, how available is Klay?

not at all. The difference between Klay and Lee is age and actual defensive productivity on top of that he avg 8 3s a game during the season. In other words he is not scared to shoot it.

We have no shot at Klay. Warriors can command the #1 pick for him and there is no rush to move him at the moment. Maybe if Steph and Durant are making 30mil which is possible they both take reduced salaries. Then in 2019-2020 when Klay is up for renewal they could possibly move him.

newyorknewyork wrote:We have no shot at Klay. Warriors can command the #1 pick for him and there is no rush to move him at the moment. Maybe if Steph and Durant are making 30mil which is possible they both take reduced salaries. Then in 2019-2020 when Klay is up for renewal they could possibly move him.

Klay is not good enough to warrant the #1 overall pick but you could get high lottery pick or Middleton and a pick.

I do think Klay will eventually become available. He is too good a player for the role he is playing now. Far sulerior player than Lee, but Lee maybe closer to what GS needs, though he would have to play better defense.

Kay has been rumored to Phili and they've more to offer. He's wasting away in GSW. We'd have to package but they've cap issues so even if Melo would fit for 20 minutes a night his salary won't play well even if we took klay offered Melo and 2018 # 1.

Klay's defense is great but his career playoffs have been disappointing and he isn't versatile on offense. If he was going to be our 4th best player, I'd be fine with it. I don't think we'd have anything GSW would want anyway.

Bonn1997 wrote:Klay's defense is great but his career playoffs have been disappointing and he isn't versatile on offense. If he was going to be our 4th best player, I'd be fine with it. I don't think we'd have anything GSW would want anyway.

he'd be our best player by a country mile if we added added him

I think Klay becomes available if he gets tired of being an after thought. That said, why would he rush out the door? He's got two more years left and is going to get paid the same either way. Why not play in a couple more Finals before leaving?

Can't say what he thinks. He is making 16-18, mil a year and has two more years on his deal. He got paid but inflation makes it a friendly deal.
He will be 29 when he is unrestricted.

How good is he? Tough to say as he is surrounded by talent. Not to downgrade him, but I don't know if he is a an alpha type player. Curry cannot be ignored which gives Klay some nice looks.
GSW took him with the 11th pick. Keep drafting.

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Klay's defense is great but his career playoffs have been disappointing and he isn't versatile on offense. If he was going to be our 4th best player, I'd be fine with it. I don't think we'd have anything GSW would want anyway.

he'd be our best player by a country mile if we added added him

Yeah that's not a good role for him

How good is Harrison Barnes? Now that he is with Dallas. He is really good. Same with Klay Thompson he is really good but I see no reason the Warriors will move him. He is part of the core 4 there. He gets shots so I can't see him being moved anytime soon.

Bonn1997 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Klay's defense is great but his career playoffs have been disappointing and he isn't versatile on offense. If he was going to be our 4th best player, I'd be fine with it. I don't think we'd have anything GSW would want anyway.

he'd be our best player by a country mile if we added added him

Yeah that's not a good role for him

I think he can be your second or third best player like he was a few years ago when they won the title. Playoffs performaces are great but one series can change the numbers from good to bad because of the small sample size.

Now if I am the warriors I'd try to cash in for a cheaper shooter/better all around player and a pick. The problem is finding those type of players.

Vmart wrote:How good is Harrison Barnes? Now that he is with Dallas. He is really good. Same with Klay Thompson he is really good but I see no reason the Warriors will move him. He is part of the core 4 there. He gets shots so I can't see him being moved anytime soon.

Harrison Barnes is a below avg player on the level of Wiggens but he is older. Play is way better than Barnes on both sides.

once he is hurt, maxed out, I am sure Isiah will trade for him

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Klay's defense is great but his career playoffs have been disappointing and he isn't versatile on offense. If he was going to be our 4th best player, I'd be fine with it. I don't think we'd have anything GSW would want anyway.

he'd be our best player by a country mile if we added added him

Yeah that's not a good role for him

I think he can be your second or third best player like he was a few years ago when they won the title. Playoffs performaces are great but one series can change the numbers from good to bad because of the small sample size.

Now if I am the warriors I'd try to cash in for a cheaper shooter/better all around player and a pick. The problem is finding those type of players.

That's true but he does have 77 playoff games (basically a whole NBA season). This isn't statistical but he just looks awful on offense.
It's hard to know what the Warriors' financial situation is but they're probably not going to have cap space any time soon with Durant, Green, and Curry on the books.

A lot of what happens with the Warriors will depend on how much money Durant and Curry are willing to leave on the table.

The league actually changed the cap projection solely to try to drive Durant off of the Warriors roster. I think that was a massive mistake and it will backfire on the league. If anything, I think it will galvanize Durant and Curry to leave money on the table and try to keep a consistent contender together.

You can be super rich and contend. Or you can be super rich plus X and not contend.

I think you will see a trend where more players are just going to leave more money on the table going forward.

When you are a guy like Lance Thomas, you take the biggest and longest deal you can, wherever you have to go to sign. I get that.

Durant and Curry have way more options. They can leave money on the table, take short term deals with option years moving forward, and try to contend and if the tea leaves blow another way, they can go for another contender or just the biggest contract they can find if it comes to that.

As the story guys, lots of guys talked to Kevin Garnett when he was on the Celtics. Fantastic player, kind of a blithering idiot when you put a mic in his face though. Garnett would tell guys he SHOULD have left the Timberwolves sooner, but he was stuck on his notions of loyalty. What Garnett doesn't say is that he would go to his owner and say, I really want to play with Marko Jaric, I really want to play with Troy Hudson, so get these guys, we can make it work. Which goes back to my point that franchise players should not be defacto GMs in place on their rosters. You get village idiots like LBJ, Garnett, Gary Payton and etc deciding the future of a franchise when they would just run a team into the ground. Michael Jordan is proof positive that a great NBA player doesn't instantly mean he's a great executive or personnel evaluator.

Money is everything when you just are looking for security.

But the NBA players at the top of the food chain, the money is going to be there. It's the rest that's the issue. Are you happy being here? Are you winning? Can you get a ring? Do you want to uproot your family?

Is an extra 35 million worth going to the Knicks and that level of dysfunction?

It's not leaving 35 million on the table. For the top shelf guys, its BUYING other things as opportunity cost. It's BUYING a chance to win, a chance to contend, a chance to play where you want to play, with who you want to play with, on your terms as much as possible. You are BUYING freedom.

I certainly could be wrong, but I think Durant and Curry leave chunks of money on the table. If it means they can extend their window and keep guys like Iggy on the roster, I think they just weigh it out and do it.

If the Warriors win a championship, I expect that they'll pay Durant and Curry every penny they have to (including the supermax). I'm their front office hopes KD and Steph leave money on the table but I don't think they're willing to lose those players. The question would really be what the Warriors will do with their other players when they become FAs. I can't imagine them letting KD or Steph go.

Later for Klay .. Shaun Livingston is a FA and the Knicks need Livingston 2 way service .. 4 yr contract worth $60M as our starter PG