SupremeCommander wrote:BigRedDog wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:it seems to me that most guys that are taken from Arizona turn out to be busts. Maybe this kid breaks that trend but I am apprehensive simply because they all disappoint. For reference: see Hill, Jordan
See also Frye, arenas, Jefferson, Bibby, terry, Dickerson, iguadola... etc. They do better than a lot of college programs.
Frye =huge disappointment
arenas= very good
Jefferson=good
terry=good
Dickerson= who the f is he???
Iguadola=good
instead of digging waaaaaaaaaaaay back, how about we look at first round picks from Arizona AFTER Frye got drafted:
2008 - Jerryd Bayless
2009 - Jordan Hill
2011 - Derrick Williams
2013 - Solomon Hill
2014 - Aaron Gordon
2015 - Stanley Johnson
2015 - Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
the only thing notable from this list is a runner-up finish at the dunk contest
Why are they disappointment, not everyone is going is built to be a super star or even an all star, the roles players are just as important. Most drafts only produce 3 maybe 4 all stars.
EnySpree wrote: How do we pass up on him at #8?
Zero on defense. Can and might be an elite long range bomber. The guy was built to shoot a basketball. Think his ceiling and floor are the same thing - Bench Stretch 5 you can only use in certain matchup play situations.
Drafting him would force a glut the big man positions. He'd hurt the defense in general.
Just a gut feeling, but I think he'll fall further than mock projections have him going.
Think he can help A TEAM, but not THIS TEAM. He would also be, IMHO, a poor overall value at 8th overall.
TripleThreat wrote:EnySpree wrote: How do we pass up on him at #8?
Zero on defense. Can and might be an elite long range bomber. The guy was built to shoot a basketball. Think his ceiling and floor are the same thing - Bench Stretch 5 you can only use in certain matchup play situations.
Drafting him would force a glut the big man positions. He'd hurt the defense in general.
Just a gut feeling, but I think he'll fall further than mock projections have him going.
Think he can help A TEAM, but not THIS TEAM. He would also be, IMHO, a poor overall value at 8th overall.
I could agree. That's why I think the team he should go to is Minnesota. He would be nice lined up with Towns. Good spacing
If carmelo can anyway possible swing us an extra 6-9 pick.. I scoop this guy with dennis smith at 8 if available.
Having KP and Lauri spreading bigs to the 3 point line would leave the paint wide open for dennis smith to do his thing
fishmike wrote:really tough with Willy/KP on the roster, the amount of quality guards in this draft and the lack of quality guards on the Knicks to really look at him. Now I dont believe in passing on what is clearly the BPA for a position of need, not in the NBA, but I think with the Knicks it will be choosing equal talent and a position of need.
If KP was traded to Boston for Fultz I would consider him but Allen is better
