Knicks · Case for Dennis Smith Jr (page 2)
NardDogNation wrote:What is the fundamental difference between Dennis Smith Jr and Jonny Flynn in 2009?
Bigger body, better passing, better rebounding, attacked the basket more, more explosive, and played the passing lanes better.
Strong defense of Smith from his trainer.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/15/how-a-hidde...
Nothing gets Farmer’s goat more than negative critiques that Smith didn’t make his teammates better and that his attitude contributed to a losing environment. NC State’s coaching staff was fired in February, though Mark Gottfried and his assistants finished out the season.“Totally unfair,’’ Farmer said. “How can you say that about a kid who tore his ACL, been out a year. rehabbed, came into major a conference like the ACC, put an entire university on his back? He did a great job of keeping poise, composure. He didn’t fire back on teammates or coaches. He handled the situation as good as anyone. They didn’t have a good season the year before.
“They labeled him as not being a leader. What else did you want the kid to do? Two triple doubles, led the ACC in assists and that Duke game was a statement game.’’
Smith was named ACC Freshman of the Year after averaging 18.1 points and 6.2 assists per game. Smith put up 32 points and six assists as NC State won on the road at Duke in January.
People have no idea how this kid worked back, how hard he attacked his rehab,” Farmer said. “I picked Dennis up off the floor after he tore his ACL in LA. I was right there when his doctor told him it was 99 percent torn. He didn’t get down on himself. He attacked it.
”A lot of people don’t know what went into coming back from a devastating injury like that. It could’ve been catastrophic. Mentally, it could’ve been catastrophic. And he’s still being labeled. ‘Can he lead a team, his decision-making?’ That’s what a leader does. A leader is somebody who is behind the scenes, when media like you guys don’t see, [and] prepared himself to be 100 percent when he went to NC State.’’
Farmer gives Smith’s father, Dennis Smith Sr., the most credit for getting his son to this point – a week from his name being announced as an NBA lottery pick. Smith’s mother left when he was young. Farmer said the elder Smith drove his son four days a week from Fayetteville, NC, to a Duke sports medicine facility and jogged with him on the track “every step of the way’’ during his recovery from the knee injury.
“The dad attacked the rehab as much as Dennis,’’ Farmer said. “Nobody gives Senior credit. They talk about Mother’s Day. No disrespect to moms, but Mother’s Day you can’t get into a restaurant. Father’s Day? You can get in anywhere you want. We don’t get enough credit. I’ve seen what he’s done molding a professional basketball player.’’
GustavBahler wrote:Still think we should take Smith if he's the BPA.Strong defense of Smith from his trainer.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/15/how-a-hidde...Nothing gets Farmer’s goat more than negative critiques that Smith didn’t make his teammates better and that his attitude contributed to a losing environment. NC State’s coaching staff was fired in February, though Mark Gottfried and his assistants finished out the season.“Totally unfair,’’ Farmer said. “How can you say that about a kid who tore his ACL, been out a year. rehabbed, came into major a conference like the ACC, put an entire university on his back? He did a great job of keeping poise, composure. He didn’t fire back on teammates or coaches. He handled the situation as good as anyone. They didn’t have a good season the year before.
“They labeled him as not being a leader. What else did you want the kid to do? Two triple doubles, led the ACC in assists and that Duke game was a statement game.’’
Smith was named ACC Freshman of the Year after averaging 18.1 points and 6.2 assists per game. Smith put up 32 points and six assists as NC State won on the road at Duke in January.
People have no idea how this kid worked back, how hard he attacked his rehab,” Farmer said. “I picked Dennis up off the floor after he tore his ACL in LA. I was right there when his doctor told him it was 99 percent torn. He didn’t get down on himself. He attacked it.
”A lot of people don’t know what went into coming back from a devastating injury like that. It could’ve been catastrophic. Mentally, it could’ve been catastrophic. And he’s still being labeled. ‘Can he lead a team, his decision-making?’ That’s what a leader does. A leader is somebody who is behind the scenes, when media like you guys don’t see, [and] prepared himself to be 100 percent when he went to NC State.’’
Farmer gives Smith’s father, Dennis Smith Sr., the most credit for getting his son to this point – a week from his name being announced as an NBA lottery pick. Smith’s mother left when he was young. Farmer said the elder Smith drove his son four days a week from Fayetteville, NC, to a Duke sports medicine facility and jogged with him on the track “every step of the way’’ during his recovery from the knee injury.
“The dad attacked the rehab as much as Dennis,’’ Farmer said. “Nobody gives Senior credit. They talk about Mother’s Day. No disrespect to moms, but Mother’s Day you can’t get into a restaurant. Father’s Day? You can get in anywhere you want. We don’t get enough credit. I’ve seen what he’s done molding a professional basketball player.’’
Trainers what are they suppose to say. You take that with a grain of salt I'm not opposed to taking Smith, I just feel Ntlikina might be the right choice for the Knicks because of his versatility. Same with Monk feel Ntlikina just brings more to the table. Matter of fact I think Smith brings more to the table than Monk. Smith is better passer just more all around than Monk. Monk might be the better shoooter out of the three but Smith is the better passer. Same with Ntlikina he just brings that defensive presence and stability probably the better rebounder and better defender. I like his versatility as opposed to Smith and Monk.
Vmart wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Still think we should take Smith if he's the BPA.Strong defense of Smith from his trainer.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/15/how-a-hidde...Nothing gets Farmer’s goat more than negative critiques that Smith didn’t make his teammates better and that his attitude contributed to a losing environment. NC State’s coaching staff was fired in February, though Mark Gottfried and his assistants finished out the season.“Totally unfair,’’ Farmer said. “How can you say that about a kid who tore his ACL, been out a year. rehabbed, came into major a conference like the ACC, put an entire university on his back? He did a great job of keeping poise, composure. He didn’t fire back on teammates or coaches. He handled the situation as good as anyone. They didn’t have a good season the year before.
“They labeled him as not being a leader. What else did you want the kid to do? Two triple doubles, led the ACC in assists and that Duke game was a statement game.’’
Smith was named ACC Freshman of the Year after averaging 18.1 points and 6.2 assists per game. Smith put up 32 points and six assists as NC State won on the road at Duke in January.
People have no idea how this kid worked back, how hard he attacked his rehab,” Farmer said. “I picked Dennis up off the floor after he tore his ACL in LA. I was right there when his doctor told him it was 99 percent torn. He didn’t get down on himself. He attacked it.
”A lot of people don’t know what went into coming back from a devastating injury like that. It could’ve been catastrophic. Mentally, it could’ve been catastrophic. And he’s still being labeled. ‘Can he lead a team, his decision-making?’ That’s what a leader does. A leader is somebody who is behind the scenes, when media like you guys don’t see, [and] prepared himself to be 100 percent when he went to NC State.’’
Farmer gives Smith’s father, Dennis Smith Sr., the most credit for getting his son to this point – a week from his name being announced as an NBA lottery pick. Smith’s mother left when he was young. Farmer said the elder Smith drove his son four days a week from Fayetteville, NC, to a Duke sports medicine facility and jogged with him on the track “every step of the way’’ during his recovery from the knee injury.
“The dad attacked the rehab as much as Dennis,’’ Farmer said. “Nobody gives Senior credit. They talk about Mother’s Day. No disrespect to moms, but Mother’s Day you can’t get into a restaurant. Father’s Day? You can get in anywhere you want. We don’t get enough credit. I’ve seen what he’s done molding a professional basketball player.’’
Trainers what are they suppose to say. You take that with a grain of salt I'm not opposed to taking Smith, I just feel Ntlikina might be the right choice for the Knicks because of his versatility. Same with Monk feel Ntlikina just brings more to the table. Matter of fact I think Smith brings more to the table than Monk. Smith is better passer just more all around than Monk. Monk might be the better shoooter out of the three but Smith is the better passer. Same with Ntlikina he just brings that defensive presence and stability probably the better rebounder and better defender. I like his versatility as opposed to Smith and Monk.
If we are looking at "fit" I think Monk > DSJ.
Monk can move off the ball. He ran the Tri sets well in his workout, Number 1 thing is buying in, and he would.
On the contrary, with DSJ you would see resistence, confusion right away.
He's basically Derrick Rose right now, give or take a little.
We saw Rose never really fit or blended with the team.
I am not saying this is the right way to go, but I think DSJ is probably ranked lower than the other names. After Fultz/Ball/Fox , I think the Knicks have their guards ranked as
Ntilikina
Monk
Kennard
DSJ
I would be shocked (in a good way) if we took DSJ. I just don't think he fits in to what the Knicks want to do next season. I think they want to get a guard that gives up the ball quick and without hesitation moves off the ball. This is not DSJ.
Vmart wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Still think we should take Smith if he's the BPA.Strong defense of Smith from his trainer.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/15/how-a-hidde...Nothing gets Farmer’s goat more than negative critiques that Smith didn’t make his teammates better and that his attitude contributed to a losing environment. NC State’s coaching staff was fired in February, though Mark Gottfried and his assistants finished out the season.“Totally unfair,’’ Farmer said. “How can you say that about a kid who tore his ACL, been out a year. rehabbed, came into major a conference like the ACC, put an entire university on his back? He did a great job of keeping poise, composure. He didn’t fire back on teammates or coaches. He handled the situation as good as anyone. They didn’t have a good season the year before.
“They labeled him as not being a leader. What else did you want the kid to do? Two triple doubles, led the ACC in assists and that Duke game was a statement game.’’
Smith was named ACC Freshman of the Year after averaging 18.1 points and 6.2 assists per game. Smith put up 32 points and six assists as NC State won on the road at Duke in January.
People have no idea how this kid worked back, how hard he attacked his rehab,” Farmer said. “I picked Dennis up off the floor after he tore his ACL in LA. I was right there when his doctor told him it was 99 percent torn. He didn’t get down on himself. He attacked it.
”A lot of people don’t know what went into coming back from a devastating injury like that. It could’ve been catastrophic. Mentally, it could’ve been catastrophic. And he’s still being labeled. ‘Can he lead a team, his decision-making?’ That’s what a leader does. A leader is somebody who is behind the scenes, when media like you guys don’t see, [and] prepared himself to be 100 percent when he went to NC State.’’
Farmer gives Smith’s father, Dennis Smith Sr., the most credit for getting his son to this point – a week from his name being announced as an NBA lottery pick. Smith’s mother left when he was young. Farmer said the elder Smith drove his son four days a week from Fayetteville, NC, to a Duke sports medicine facility and jogged with him on the track “every step of the way’’ during his recovery from the knee injury.
“The dad attacked the rehab as much as Dennis,’’ Farmer said. “Nobody gives Senior credit. They talk about Mother’s Day. No disrespect to moms, but Mother’s Day you can’t get into a restaurant. Father’s Day? You can get in anywhere you want. We don’t get enough credit. I’ve seen what he’s done molding a professional basketball player.’’
Trainers what are they suppose to say. You take that with a grain of salt I'm not opposed to taking Smith, I just feel Ntlikina might be the right choice for the Knicks because of his versatility. Same with Monk feel Ntlikina just brings more to the table. Matter of fact I think Smith brings more to the table than Monk. Smith is better passer just more all around than Monk. Monk might be the better shoooter out of the three but Smith is the better passer. Same with Ntlikina he just brings that defensive presence and stability probably the better rebounder and better defender. I like his versatility as opposed to Smith and Monk.
His defense consisted mostly of facts. Wasn't just hyperbole. Frank cant blow by defenders like they're standing still like Smith can. Ntlikina looks more than a step slower than some of the other options at guard. This kid has some of the tools to be a good player, but not enough of them to take someone as raw as he is at 8, especially if someone like Smith is available.
Especially since this team cant afford to miss with so much work to do to fill out this roster.