Knicks · This Porzingis controversy is being misrepresented. (page 2)

Welpee @ 6/27/2017 10:33 AM
Gudris wrote:
Welpee wrote:Does he need "permission" to play for his national team? Once the season is over I thought players could pretty much do whatever they want as long as it isn't deemed dangerous (i.e. water surfing, bungee jumping, motorcycle riding, etc.).

Bungy jumping is not dangerous :P(i did work in this field couple years )

Not dangerous at all except death from equipment failure or human error and the risk for major eye, neck and back injuries from successful jumps.
CrushAlot @ 6/27/2017 10:39 AM
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:bleacher report is ranking us as the last resort destination in the nba. phil/melo need to talk and come to an agreement.

Do they state why?
Media crush is beyond knicks control. They do try to keep things in house and while its a weird closed existance, I do understand why they try.
Guys like Isola have a very big presence and people are influenced by his opinions. Negativity sells. Its always been this way.
Not to say the knicks do themselves any favor and have not been run well for many years. Part of the reason phil was bought in was he don't care, had the coach cred, has high self esteem and will see a long term plan thru.
The selling that he is a rookie GM and arrogant taking YOUR MONEY is perpetuated to the point readers get conditioned to hate him and while no valid alternative concept can offered, many would love to see him fired thinking the future would be better.

I've said this before, look how many talented people we have hired and ruined? We kill the spirit of coaches.

Kudos to MDA who now won his second coach of the year.

Blame is essential. NY media is the same as elsewhere but more intense.

If you had to take your best guess as to why and you eliminated income tax, would it be ownership or management? They chose Phil and gave many reasons but the KP situation was the final straw for them. Chicago finished second and Sac almost made it off the list. Here is the link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27180...
Nalod @ 6/27/2017 11:25 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:bleacher report is ranking us as the last resort destination in the nba. phil/melo need to talk and come to an agreement.

Do they state why?
Media crush is beyond knicks control. They do try to keep things in house and while its a weird closed existance, I do understand why they try.
Guys like Isola have a very big presence and people are influenced by his opinions. Negativity sells. Its always been this way.
Not to say the knicks do themselves any favor and have not been run well for many years. Part of the reason phil was bought in was he don't care, had the coach cred, has high self esteem and will see a long term plan thru.
The selling that he is a rookie GM and arrogant taking YOUR MONEY is perpetuated to the point readers get conditioned to hate him and while no valid alternative concept can offered, many would love to see him fired thinking the future would be better.

I've said this before, look how many talented people we have hired and ruined? We kill the spirit of coaches.

Kudos to MDA who now won his second coach of the year.

Blame is essential. NY media is the same as elsewhere but more intense.

If you had to take your best guess as to why and you eliminated income tax, would it be ownership or management? They chose Phil and gave many reasons but the KP situation was the final straw for them. Chicago finished second and Sac almost made it off the list. Here is the link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27180...


Read it. Its an opinion piece. Who is the writer? Looks like all old stuff and its not based on any polling of players? Its all opinion.
Nothing in that article is new and we have discussed it many times in detail. Really, what has Phil said that is incorrect or god awful?
A GM called out an underperforming asset who is not fulfilling his end of the bargain.

KP is seen by most fans as some what culpable in actions.
And, wtf does Charles Oak have to do with anything? Has the man not baited Dolan into this confrontation? He did the same thing in Oakland in 2016 and got into it with Security. Oak is Oak, but also there are hundreds of ex knicks, but only one Oak.

Who in their right mind would rather live and play in Indiana or Detroit over NYC? Lakers front office has been a joke up until recently. Clippers were owned by a racist. Cavs are only good place because of Lebron, PHilly has been a shyt storm for how many years? Wizards just did something good, otherwise it was a shyt show. At least Arena's never shot anyone. Nobody cares about Hawks in ATL, and Memphis is boring.

Yes, PHil made a bad deal with Noah. That is not the reason why players are not flocking to team. They are rebuilding and vets are not getting big money or playing time to go on a young team. Not until they are further along. They did not get a great deal for Tyson, thats not a reason to stay away. Jose is not on the team.
Writers take fans view.

CrushAlot @ 6/27/2017 11:33 AM
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:bleacher report is ranking us as the last resort destination in the nba. phil/melo need to talk and come to an agreement.

Do they state why?
Media crush is beyond knicks control. They do try to keep things in house and while its a weird closed existance, I do understand why they try.
Guys like Isola have a very big presence and people are influenced by his opinions. Negativity sells. Its always been this way.
Not to say the knicks do themselves any favor and have not been run well for many years. Part of the reason phil was bought in was he don't care, had the coach cred, has high self esteem and will see a long term plan thru.
The selling that he is a rookie GM and arrogant taking YOUR MONEY is perpetuated to the point readers get conditioned to hate him and while no valid alternative concept can offered, many would love to see him fired thinking the future would be better.

I've said this before, look how many talented people we have hired and ruined? We kill the spirit of coaches.

Kudos to MDA who now won his second coach of the year.

Blame is essential. NY media is the same as elsewhere but more intense.

If you had to take your best guess as to why and you eliminated income tax, would it be ownership or management? They chose Phil and gave many reasons but the KP situation was the final straw for them. Chicago finished second and Sac almost made it off the list. Here is the link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27180...


Read it. Its an opinion piece. Who is the writer? Looks like all old stuff and its not based on any polling of players? Its all opinion.
Nothing in that article is new and we have discussed it many times in detail. Really, what has Phil said that is incorrect or god awful?
A GM called out an underperforming asset who is not fulfilling his end of the bargain.

KP is seen by most fans as some what culpable in actions.
And, wtf does Charles Oak have to do with anything? Has the man not baited Dolan into this confrontation? He did the same thing in Oakland in 2016 and got into it with Security. Oak is Oak, but also there are hundreds of ex knicks, but only one Oak.

Who in their right mind would rather live and play in Indiana or Detroit over NYC? Lakers front office has been a joke up until recently. Clippers were owned by a racist. Cavs are only good place because of Lebron, PHilly has been a shyt storm for how many years? Wizards just did something good, otherwise it was a shyt show. At least Arena's never shot anyone. Nobody cares about Hawks in ATL, and Memphis is boring.

Yes, PHil made a bad deal with Noah. That is not the reason why players are not flocking to team. They are rebuilding and vets are not getting big money or playing time to go on a young team. Not until they are further along. They did not get a great deal for Tyson, thats not a reason to stay away. Jose is not on the team.
Writers take fans view.


It isn't old. The Butler trade,the Kings draft, the Porzingis stuff around the draft all just happened. I agree that it was an opinion piece. That is what rankings are unless they are stats based.
knicks1248 @ 6/27/2017 12:03 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:bleacher report is ranking us as the last resort destination in the nba. phil/melo need to talk and come to an agreement.

Do they state why?
Media crush is beyond knicks control. They do try to keep things in house and while its a weird closed existance, I do understand why they try.
Guys like Isola have a very big presence and people are influenced by his opinions. Negativity sells. Its always been this way.
Not to say the knicks do themselves any favor and have not been run well for many years. Part of the reason phil was bought in was he don't care, had the coach cred, has high self esteem and will see a long term plan thru.
The selling that he is a rookie GM and arrogant taking YOUR MONEY is perpetuated to the point readers get conditioned to hate him and while no valid alternative concept can offered, many would love to see him fired thinking the future would be better.

I've said this before, look how many talented people we have hired and ruined? We kill the spirit of coaches.

Kudos to MDA who now won his second coach of the year.

Blame is essential. NY media is the same as elsewhere but more intense.

If you had to take your best guess as to why and you eliminated income tax, would it be ownership or management? They chose Phil and gave many reasons but the KP situation was the final straw for them. Chicago finished second and Sac almost made it off the list. Here is the link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27180...


Read it. Its an opinion piece. Who is the writer? Looks like all old stuff and its not based on any polling of players? Its all opinion.
Nothing in that article is new and we have discussed it many times in detail. Really, what has Phil said that is incorrect or god awful?
A GM called out an underperforming asset who is not fulfilling his end of the bargain.

KP is seen by most fans as some what culpable in actions.
And, wtf does Charles Oak have to do with anything? Has the man not baited Dolan into this confrontation? He did the same thing in Oakland in 2016 and got into it with Security. Oak is Oak, but also there are hundreds of ex knicks, but only one Oak.

Who in their right mind would rather live and play in Indiana or Detroit over NYC? Lakers front office has been a joke up until recently. Clippers were owned by a racist. Cavs are only good place because of Lebron, PHilly has been a shyt storm for how many years? Wizards just did something good, otherwise it was a shyt show. At least Arena's never shot anyone. Nobody cares about Hawks in ATL, and Memphis is boring.

Yes, PHil made a bad deal with Noah. That is not the reason why players are not flocking to team. They are rebuilding and vets are not getting big money or playing time to go on a young team. Not until they are further along. They did not get a great deal for Tyson, thats not a reason to stay away. Jose is not on the team.
Writers take fans view.


It isn't old. The Butler trade,the Kings draft, the Porzingis stuff around the draft all just happened. I agree that it was an opinion piece. That is what rankings are unless they are stats based.

Free agency starts satuday, and the knicks haven't been associated with anyone worth mentioning, so this opinion piece is dead on. NYC is no ones destination as long as phil and his triangle misfits are here.

This guy must have read my post yesterday when I mention patty mills, and pj tucker as phils main targets..

Noah's contract is sooooooooooo baaaaaaad, you can even package the unicorn with him.

CrushAlot @ 6/27/2017 12:31 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:bleacher report is ranking us as the last resort destination in the nba. phil/melo need to talk and come to an agreement.

Do they state why?
Media crush is beyond knicks control. They do try to keep things in house and while its a weird closed existance, I do understand why they try.
Guys like Isola have a very big presence and people are influenced by his opinions. Negativity sells. Its always been this way.
Not to say the knicks do themselves any favor and have not been run well for many years. Part of the reason phil was bought in was he don't care, had the coach cred, has high self esteem and will see a long term plan thru.
The selling that he is a rookie GM and arrogant taking YOUR MONEY is perpetuated to the point readers get conditioned to hate him and while no valid alternative concept can offered, many would love to see him fired thinking the future would be better.

I've said this before, look how many talented people we have hired and ruined? We kill the spirit of coaches.

Kudos to MDA who now won his second coach of the year.

Blame is essential. NY media is the same as elsewhere but more intense.

If you had to take your best guess as to why and you eliminated income tax, would it be ownership or management? They chose Phil and gave many reasons but the KP situation was the final straw for them. Chicago finished second and Sac almost made it off the list. Here is the link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27180...


Read it. Its an opinion piece. Who is the writer? Looks like all old stuff and its not based on any polling of players? Its all opinion.
Nothing in that article is new and we have discussed it many times in detail. Really, what has Phil said that is incorrect or god awful?
A GM called out an underperforming asset who is not fulfilling his end of the bargain.

KP is seen by most fans as some what culpable in actions.
And, wtf does Charles Oak have to do with anything? Has the man not baited Dolan into this confrontation? He did the same thing in Oakland in 2016 and got into it with Security. Oak is Oak, but also there are hundreds of ex knicks, but only one Oak.

Who in their right mind would rather live and play in Indiana or Detroit over NYC? Lakers front office has been a joke up until recently. Clippers were owned by a racist. Cavs are only good place because of Lebron, PHilly has been a shyt storm for how many years? Wizards just did something good, otherwise it was a shyt show. At least Arena's never shot anyone. Nobody cares about Hawks in ATL, and Memphis is boring.

Yes, PHil made a bad deal with Noah. That is not the reason why players are not flocking to team. They are rebuilding and vets are not getting big money or playing time to go on a young team. Not until they are further along. They did not get a great deal for Tyson, thats not a reason to stay away. Jose is not on the team.
Writers take fans view.


It isn't old. The Butler trade,the Kings draft, the Porzingis stuff around the draft all just happened. I agree that it was an opinion piece. That is what rankings are unless they are stats based.

Free agency starts satuday, and the knicks haven't been associated with anyone worth mentioning, so this opinion piece is dead on. NYC is no ones destination as long as phil and his triangle misfits are here.

This guy must have read my post yesterday when I mention patty mills, and pj tucker as phils main targets..

Noah's contract is sooooooooooo baaaaaaad, you can even package the unicorn with him.

Rosen's piece suggests the Knicks might target Rose with a two year contract so he can mentor Frank. Also, I think they were linked to PJ Tucker.
martin @ 6/27/2017 12:33 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Rosen's piece suggests the Knicks might target Rose with a two year contract so he can mentor Frank. Also, I think they were linked to PJ Tucker.

Been wondering if Phil/Rosen are just doing BJ Armstrong and Rose a favor by trying to create at least a bit of a market for Rose when he moves on

CrushAlot @ 6/27/2017 12:35 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Rosen's piece suggests the Knicks might target Rose with a two year contract so he can mentor Frank. Also, I think they were linked to PJ Tucker.

Been wondering if Phil/Rosen are just doing BJ Armstrong and Rose a favor by trying to create at least a bit of a market for Rose when he moves on

I hope you are right.
CrushAlot @ 6/27/2017 1:04 PM
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