Knicks · What remaining free agents interest you? (page 1)

For me, its slim pickings. On a reasonable/bargain contract I wouldn't mind us going for:

Darren Collison
Tyreke Evans
Jerebko
Shelvin Mack
KJ McDaniels
Ben McLemore
Kelly Olynyk (restricted)
Dion Waiters

None I'm particularly excited about, but I do like Olynyk if we got rid of O'Quinn

I'd also consider taking on Crabbes salary from Portland

smackeddog wrote:For me, its slim pickings. On a reasonable/bargain contract I wouldn't mind us going for:

Darren Collison
Tyreke Evans
Jerebko
Shelvin Mack
KJ McDaniels
Ben McLemore
Kelly Olynyk (restricted)
Dion Waiters

None I'm particularly excited about, but I do like Olynyk if we got rid of O'Quinn

I'd also consider taking on Crabbes salary from Portland

I like your list. I have always been a big Waiters fan (Cuse) and I thought his Player's Tribune article was awesome. I think he is going to blow up this year if he is back in Miami. I would love if the Knicks got him.
Collison or Mack because it would mean no Rose. McLemore sounds like a guy worth the risk. Guys on the Kings'board seemed to think he would do better in a different situation. I like Olynyk but the Knicks have enough bigs in my oopinion.

Only Darren Collision truely peaks my interest as a stopgap for Frency Nix. But I'm of the philosophy that we should tank the season. Wouldn't mind taking a flier on KJ McDaniels who showed promise earlier in his career but if even the Nets cut him....I'm not sure that optimism for his career arc would be justified.

I'd sit on the remainder of my cap, having rendered offers to those two and then use it for advantageous trades that involve the dumping of salary with picks.

Also, interestingly Pistons don't have the money to match a max offer on Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. Don't know much about him- is he any good?

NardDogNation wrote:Only Darren Collision truely peaks my interest as a stopgap for Frency Nix. But I'm of the philosophy that we should tank the season. Wouldn't mind taking a flier on KJ McDaniels who showed promise earlier in his career but if even the Nets cut him....I'm not sure that optimism for his career arc would be justified.

I'd sit on the remainder of my cap, having rendered offers to those two and then use it for advantageous trades that involve the dumping of salary with picks.

You must like going in circles, more losing means less attractive destination, poor development, coach firings, and a wack draft position.

At some point winning has got to be a priority, By any means.

knicks1248 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:Only Darren Collision truely peaks my interest as a stopgap for Frency Nix. But I'm of the philosophy that we should tank the season. Wouldn't mind taking a flier on KJ McDaniels who showed promise earlier in his career but if even the Nets cut him....I'm not sure that optimism for his career arc would be justified.

I'd sit on the remainder of my cap, having rendered offers to those two and then use it for advantageous trades that involve the dumping of salary with picks.

You must like going in circles, more losing means less attractive destination, poor development, coach firings, and a wack draft position.

At some point winning has got to be a priority, By any means.

We aren't winning next year. I know you hate "building through the draft" but its truthfully the smarter move and more realistic move

Hill is still interesting. He plays the right way. If not him, I'll grab Collison on a 2 year deal as a stopgap and commit to Ben mclemore, who is young and still has potential. He's a good shooter and can be a good 6th man.

Knixkik wrote:Hill is still interesting. He plays the right way. If not him, I'll grab Collison on a 2 year deal as a stopgap and commit to Ben mclemore, who is young and still has potential. He's a good shooter and can be a good 6th man.

Hill, Rondo or Collison. There's no way that we can go into the season without a veteran presence at the point guard position or we'll be a laughing stock and drive KP away. I'd consider Teodosic too. Maybe that's our play?

Rond0

smackeddog wrote:Also, interestingly Pistons don't have the money to match a max offer on Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. Don't know much about him- is he any good?

The Pistons have Pope's full Bird Rights, making him a restricted free agent. They can exceed the cap and match any offer he is tendered. Whether they actually want to do that is a different story but if they are throwing $21 million at Langston Galloway, I can't see any offer being too much for Pope.

knicks1248 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:Only Darren Collision truely peaks my interest as a stopgap for Frency Nix. But I'm of the philosophy that we should tank the season. Wouldn't mind taking a flier on KJ McDaniels who showed promise earlier in his career but if even the Nets cut him....I'm not sure that optimism for his career arc would be justified.

I'd sit on the remainder of my cap, having rendered offers to those two and then use it for advantageous trades that involve the dumping of salary with picks.

You must like going in circles, more losing means less attractive destination, poor development, coach firings, and a wack draft position.

At some point winning has got to be a priority, By any means.

Context is important. If the losing is done in a manner that allows the youth to develop skills and play through their mistakes ala the OKC Durant-Westbrook-Harden teams, then it is worth it. If the losing is done to allow Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah to play themselves into game shape, then I'd agree with you about losing. I support doing the former though. And we wouldn't have a "wack" draft position if we truly commited to turning the team over to the youth and have them refine their skillset through the experience.

I wonder if we're sitting back because we already have Teodosic in our pocket. He speaks European, you know. Why pay more?

reub wrote:I wonder if we're sitting back because we already have Teodosic in our pocket. He speaks European, you know. Why pay more?

Doubtful. He hasn't been linked to us at all despite being regularly mentioned in the rumors. I like him but at 27 years old, he is no true rookie and will age out of a Porzingis-led team. We need guys that fits our cores timeline.

George hill, period

dwiley20 wrote:Rond0

No way. The guy is a cancer

You sleep.. you watch the Celtics bulls series..that's what you call difference maker

smackeddog wrote:For me, its slim pickings. On a reasonable/bargain contract I wouldn't mind us going for:

Darren Collison
Tyreke Evans
Jerebko
Shelvin Mack
KJ McDaniels
Ben McLemore
Kelly Olynyk (restricted)
Dion Waiters

None I'm particularly excited about, but I do like Olynyk if we got rid of O'Quinn

I'd also consider taking on Crabbes salary from Portland

i really like Waiters, i would sign on. I think he still has immense potential

Its taking a while to wrap my head around but I on't think many FA want to come to NY and NY doesn't want to overpay for them either like we usually do..... So were gonna have to wait to see who gets left in the cold and make some team friedly deals...... sort of like Philly did during their rebuild.

With that said another option we haven't really made any moves is we're waiting to see what happens with Hayward and Philly. If the goal is to try and trade Melo to Boston for a 1st round pick then the best move is to not take any salary because we might have to absorb a contract for Melo

Or if we end up stuck with Melo we might still look to absorb a contract for a player who is either young or attached to a 1st round pick.

Hill. Collision.
McLemore. Waiters. Funny but waiters may turn out to be the Dennis Smith that we didn't want. If Frank doesn't work out somehow, we may still have a starting guard.

smackeddog wrote:For me, its slim pickings. On a reasonable/bargain contract I wouldn't mind us going for:
Jerebko
Shelvin Mack
KJ McDaniels

Guys who I think the Knicks could get with their cap space, and could actually help across the board, but these players would have better options ( I don't think the Knicks can get these guys, there's too much money out there and better situations for them)

Ian Clark
Dwayne Dedmon
Patrick Patterson
Jonas Jerebko
KJ McDaniels

Guys I think the Knicks could get with their cap space, and have some use, and NY could feasibly be an option for them ( mostly due to their more limited options in general)

Tony Allen
Thabo Selofosha
Omri Casspi
Matt Barnes

Guys accessible who might be worth taking a flier on, either for veteran leadership, or for raw youth upside and might slip under the radar a little

James Young
Aaron Brooks
Luis Scola
Nick Collison
Shelvin Mack

Knicks desperately need wing help. I think Allen and Selofosha are fair targets. They won't offer a future, they can at least defend their own weight, can space the floor a little and know how to handle themselves in an NBA locker room. Unfortunately the Knicks need to offer more years to get them than other teams.

Scola bounced with the Nets a little. He is pretty much done at this point. He is however one of the best low post guys in the modern era. Just having him there to work with Hernangomez and Zinger would be invaluable. Collison is an underrated glue guy, he doesn't have anything left either. But in a toxic locker room, you need some solid citizens in there.

Larry Sanders is still out there. He wants to play in the NBA again. He had DPOY potentail. Is it still there? Doubt it. But why not invite him to camp? Teams have taken fliers on worse.

I would offer every dollar I had to Ian Clark and see what he says. If not, then look at Allen, Thabo, Barnes and Casspi. I just don't see anything above Tier 4 or Tier 5 in FA coming to the Knicks this year.

Shabazz is free now