Off Topic · Off Topic: six months later, do people who voted for Trump still support this guy? (page 47)

martin @ 9/29/2017 11:02 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
It went from a cat 1 to a cat 5 in 12 hours Nixluva. It was aggressive and quick--only the facts nixluva The other hurricanes developed over a much longer period of time. How does the uS react to a storm that changes in 12 hours like that? You're reading anti Trump stuff. Just read articles that have no bias.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/20...

BRIGGS, I am getting tired of your participation at this point. If you like to bring facts and an informed presence, please do. You have not. Consistently.

Fact is, on Monday AM, the storm was category 5 and hitting other areas before Puerto Rico - US Virgin Islands. The fact that it went from 1 to 5 in 12 hours has no bearing on the prep the US could and should have done for our citizens.

Do you know when the storm hit San Juan? Wednesday. The US approved an emergency declaration for the Virgin Islands on Monday, giving FEMA the go-ahead to coordinate disaster relief efforts there. The US knew Puerto Rico was in direct line 48 hours later.

Your BS about going from a 1 to 5 is utterly useless information and has nothing to do with anything. The pure nature of hurricanes is that they show up unexpectedly.

Those are the facts.

C'mon Martin, he regularly spews outright racist crap around here, maybe most offensive of all just a few pages back telling black people on this forum they've never experienced racism and they all have it easy. And what draws your ire is he's misinformed (which he always is) about hurricanes?

That's disappointing.

This does not help me. I don't read every post or even every thread, I don't know why you would expect that. I address stuff as I see them. I am sure others have responded, and in fact, I think it would be appropriate.

Andrew @ 9/29/2017 11:03 AM
BRIGGS wrote:what "fact" do I have wrong here --I posted a URL --this country was over extended and did the best they could.

Is it telling that you even got the "fact" wrong that was in your own URL?

15 hours....not 12. 12 was Wilma.

Knickoftime @ 9/29/2017 11:09 AM
martin wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
It went from a cat 1 to a cat 5 in 12 hours Nixluva. It was aggressive and quick--only the facts nixluva The other hurricanes developed over a much longer period of time. How does the uS react to a storm that changes in 12 hours like that? You're reading anti Trump stuff. Just read articles that have no bias.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/20...

BRIGGS, I am getting tired of your participation at this point. If you like to bring facts and an informed presence, please do. You have not. Consistently.

Fact is, on Monday AM, the storm was category 5 and hitting other areas before Puerto Rico - US Virgin Islands. The fact that it went from 1 to 5 in 12 hours has no bearing on the prep the US could and should have done for our citizens.

Do you know when the storm hit San Juan? Wednesday. The US approved an emergency declaration for the Virgin Islands on Monday, giving FEMA the go-ahead to coordinate disaster relief efforts there. The US knew Puerto Rico was in direct line 48 hours later.

Your BS about going from a 1 to 5 is utterly useless information and has nothing to do with anything. The pure nature of hurricanes is that they show up unexpectedly.

Those are the facts.

C'mon Martin, he regularly spews outright racist crap around here, maybe most offensive of all just a few pages back telling black people on this forum they've never experienced racism and they all have it easy. And what draws your ire is he's misinformed (which he always is) about hurricanes?

That's disappointing.

This does not help me. I don't read every post or even every thread, I don't know why you would expect that. I address stuff as I see them. I am sure others have responded, and in fact, I think it would be appropriate.

BRIGGS wrote:Nixluva--you have ZERO appreciation for a country that made you a great life. You like to teach history but youre a BAD teacher my friend. If you want to do something teach and preach to people what they can be instead of picturing a blindly bleak face on things. Slavery occurred all over the world nixluva--thats history--nothing we can do about it now. But we can bring examples of what is good and what can be achieved. But you like hate more than you like optimism.

Nixluva there are hundreds of millions--maybe billions of people oppressed around the world. People cant own a home many people dont even have rations of food for a day. You dont even understand what oppressed means--you were never oppressed for one minute of your life--Id bet on that. My bet is you have a nice home were afford more luxuries than 99% of the rest of the Earth--brought up good kidswho had a good education and you downplay the great opportunity the uS gave you by spewing gibberish nonsense.

You're a problem--you are no solution--youre take is the embarrassing part. Everything you have you take for granted. Half my family was incinerated--every day I see my children Im happy. I started off behind the gun in this world when my dad died when I was 8(my mom pregnant with my little brother) This country gave me opportunity and ive done this best I could do--with some health issues at a young age to boot. I appreciate the flag and what it means--but UNLIKE TrUMP I accept thoughtful disagreement on issue. I do NOT agree with his bashing style--but as you tell me I am on the wrong side of history--my opinion of you is come into the year 2017 and appreciate the things the uS gave you and stop focusing on problem of the past. Guys like Popovich never gave Trump or democracy one minute of chance--he was obstructed and resisted from minute 1 because a large bunch of people didnt get what they wanted. He certainly isnt the nicest person but I believe 100% that he wants the greater good for everyone--still do and that Hillary Clinton was not a viable choice. Dont write me back a page long diatribe on why you believe you were oppressed when there are billions of people who really ARE oppressed in the world--give it a needed break.

This isn't a controversial alternative view. This is a pure bile from someone who contributes nothing to this discussion or the forum in general.

BRIGGS @ 9/29/2017 11:10 AM
martin wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
It went from a cat 1 to a cat 5 in 12 hours Nixluva. It was aggressive and quick--only the facts nixluva The other hurricanes developed over a much longer period of time. How does the uS react to a storm that changes in 12 hours like that? You're reading anti Trump stuff. Just read articles that have no bias.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/20...

BRIGGS, I am getting tired of your participation at this point. If you like to bring facts and an informed presence, please do. You have not. Consistently.

Fact is, on Monday AM, the storm was category 5 and hitting other areas before Puerto Rico - US Virgin Islands. The fact that it went from 1 to 5 in 12 hours has no bearing on the prep the US could and should have done for our citizens.

Do you know when the storm hit San Juan? Wednesday. The US approved an emergency declaration for the Virgin Islands on Monday, giving FEMA the go-ahead to coordinate disaster relief efforts there. The US knew Puerto Rico was in direct line 48 hours later.

Your BS about going from a 1 to 5 is utterly useless information and has nothing to do with anything. The pure nature of hurricanes is that they show up unexpectedly.

Those are the facts.

C'mon Martin, he regularly spews outright racist crap around here, maybe most offensive of all just a few pages back telling black people on this forum they've never experienced racism and they all have it easy. And what draws your ire is he's misinformed (which he always is) about hurricanes?

That's disappointing.

This does not help me. I don't read every post or even every thread, I don't know why you would expect that. I address stuff as I see them. I am sure others have responded, and in fact, I think it would be appropriate.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...

Anyone here the governor of PR?

Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló praised President Donald Trump for his response to the island after the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria.
“The president and the administration, every time we’ve asked them to execute, they’ve executed quickly,” Rosselló told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo in an interview on Friday morning.

fishmike @ 9/29/2017 11:16 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
It went from a cat 1 to a cat 5 in 12 hours Nixluva. It was aggressive and quick--only the facts nixluva The other hurricanes developed over a much longer period of time. How does the uS react to a storm that changes in 12 hours like that? You're reading anti Trump stuff. Just read articles that have no bias.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/20...

BRIGGS, I am getting tired of your participation at this point. If you like to bring facts and an informed presence, please do. You have not. Consistently.

Fact is, on Monday AM, the storm was category 5 and hitting other areas before Puerto Rico - US Virgin Islands. The fact that it went from 1 to 5 in 12 hours has no bearing on the prep the US could and should have done for our citizens.

Do you know when the storm hit San Juan? Wednesday. The US approved an emergency declaration for the Virgin Islands on Monday, giving FEMA the go-ahead to coordinate disaster relief efforts there. The US knew Puerto Rico was in direct line 48 hours later.

Your BS about going from a 1 to 5 is utterly useless information and has nothing to do with anything. The pure nature of hurricanes is that they show up unexpectedly.

Those are the facts.

C'mon Martin, he regularly spews outright racist crap around here, maybe most offensive of all just a few pages back telling black people on this forum they've never experienced racism and they all have it easy. And what draws your ire is he's misinformed (which he always is) about hurricanes?

That's disappointing.

This does not help me. I don't read every post or even every thread, I don't know why you would expect that. I address stuff as I see them. I am sure others have responded, and in fact, I think it would be appropriate.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_...

Breitbart News Network (known commonly as Breitbart News, Breitbart or Breitbart.com) is a far-right American news, opinion and commentary website founded in 2007 by conservative commentator Andrew Breitbart. The site has published a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories, as well as intentionally misleading stories.

Shocking to know this is what fuels you. Who would have suspected? I guess it might be solace to some knowing all the garbage between Brigg's ear's isnt self constructed. He's regurgitating it from other more qualified liars

BRIGGS @ 9/29/2017 11:19 AM
fishmike wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
It went from a cat 1 to a cat 5 in 12 hours Nixluva. It was aggressive and quick--only the facts nixluva The other hurricanes developed over a much longer period of time. How does the uS react to a storm that changes in 12 hours like that? You're reading anti Trump stuff. Just read articles that have no bias.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/20...

BRIGGS, I am getting tired of your participation at this point. If you like to bring facts and an informed presence, please do. You have not. Consistently.

Fact is, on Monday AM, the storm was category 5 and hitting other areas before Puerto Rico - US Virgin Islands. The fact that it went from 1 to 5 in 12 hours has no bearing on the prep the US could and should have done for our citizens.

Do you know when the storm hit San Juan? Wednesday. The US approved an emergency declaration for the Virgin Islands on Monday, giving FEMA the go-ahead to coordinate disaster relief efforts there. The US knew Puerto Rico was in direct line 48 hours later.

Your BS about going from a 1 to 5 is utterly useless information and has nothing to do with anything. The pure nature of hurricanes is that they show up unexpectedly.

Those are the facts.

C'mon Martin, he regularly spews outright racist crap around here, maybe most offensive of all just a few pages back telling black people on this forum they've never experienced racism and they all have it easy. And what draws your ire is he's misinformed (which he always is) about hurricanes?

That's disappointing.

This does not help me. I don't read every post or even every thread, I don't know why you would expect that. I address stuff as I see them. I am sure others have responded, and in fact, I think it would be appropriate.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_...

Breitbart News Network (known commonly as Breitbart News, Breitbart or Breitbart.com) is a far-right American news, opinion and commentary website founded in 2007 by conservative commentator Andrew Breitbart. The site has published a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories, as well as intentionally misleading stories.

Shocking to know this is what fuels you. Who would have suspected? I guess it might be solace to some knowing all the garbage between Brigg's ear's isnt self constructed. He's regurgitating it from other more qualified liars


Sorry fishmike--the governor of PR came on TV and said this. Its convenient to hide it right? This is the facts from the GOVERNOR of pR--Im sure anyone here has more insight than him????????
BRIGGS @ 9/29/2017 11:26 AM
When asked about Trump’s belief that the U.S. government is doing a “great job” so far, the governor said, “Here’s the two components we need to consider: The president has been in contact with me almost on a daily basis. So he is aware of the devastation, and I thank him for issuing [pre-storm] emergency declarations… He has also given instructions to FEMA and other federal agencies to help Puerto Rico. So that effort is ongoing and it’s very good and it’s very effective. However, there are logistical threats we are facing… What we really need are some human resources, which we’ve requested.”

https://www.gossipcop.com/puerto-rico-go...

Anyone who has followed this KNOWS the logistical nightmare this country has. The port was wiped out their airport wiped out and then it ran through the entire country. Its WORSE than what happened in the states because getting the aid there has been brutal. Ive watched and read the whole time. If people want to make sht up they can make sht up. Im bringing the facts from the government of PR. and anyone who followed even indirectly knows what Im talking about.

fishmike @ 9/29/2017 11:44 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
It went from a cat 1 to a cat 5 in 12 hours Nixluva. It was aggressive and quick--only the facts nixluva The other hurricanes developed over a much longer period of time. How does the uS react to a storm that changes in 12 hours like that? You're reading anti Trump stuff. Just read articles that have no bias.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/20...

BRIGGS, I am getting tired of your participation at this point. If you like to bring facts and an informed presence, please do. You have not. Consistently.

Fact is, on Monday AM, the storm was category 5 and hitting other areas before Puerto Rico - US Virgin Islands. The fact that it went from 1 to 5 in 12 hours has no bearing on the prep the US could and should have done for our citizens.

Do you know when the storm hit San Juan? Wednesday. The US approved an emergency declaration for the Virgin Islands on Monday, giving FEMA the go-ahead to coordinate disaster relief efforts there. The US knew Puerto Rico was in direct line 48 hours later.

Your BS about going from a 1 to 5 is utterly useless information and has nothing to do with anything. The pure nature of hurricanes is that they show up unexpectedly.

Those are the facts.

C'mon Martin, he regularly spews outright racist crap around here, maybe most offensive of all just a few pages back telling black people on this forum they've never experienced racism and they all have it easy. And what draws your ire is he's misinformed (which he always is) about hurricanes?

That's disappointing.

This does not help me. I don't read every post or even every thread, I don't know why you would expect that. I address stuff as I see them. I am sure others have responded, and in fact, I think it would be appropriate.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_...

Breitbart News Network (known commonly as Breitbart News, Breitbart or Breitbart.com) is a far-right American news, opinion and commentary website founded in 2007 by conservative commentator Andrew Breitbart. The site has published a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories, as well as intentionally misleading stories.

Shocking to know this is what fuels you. Who would have suspected? I guess it might be solace to some knowing all the garbage between Brigg's ear's isnt self constructed. He's regurgitating it from other more qualified liars


Sorry fishmike--the governor of PR came on TV and said this. Its convenient to hide it right? This is the facts from the GOVERNOR of pR--Im sure anyone here has more insight than him????????

are you really this stupid? That whole island is decimated? You think he's going to make political statements? He needs every ounce of help as soon as he can get it. We will learn the truth about the response time and facts much much down the road when there is no impact to say it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/09/29/san-juan-mayor-slams-trump-administration-comments-on-puerto-rico-hurricane-response/?utm_term=.81888710fb00

Sorry.. what are you defending Trump again for? Yea.. he did a bigly great job helping PR.

nixluva @ 9/29/2017 11:49 AM
nixluva @ 9/29/2017 11:57 AM

TheGame @ 9/29/2017 12:17 PM
BRIGGS, Trump is in contact with the PR governor and he is now saying the right things but things are not getting done as quickly as they should and if Trump had spent last week focused on PR instead of the Black NFL players, he could have spend things up. It is only after people started complaining about why the president was sending dozens of tweets about the NFL but no tweets about PR that this PR push started. That is why he is being criticized.
djsunyc @ 9/29/2017 1:55 PM

seems to me that all the "protests" against some racist cops are working. kaepernick deserves some recognition.

Knickoftime @ 9/29/2017 1:59 PM
djsunyc wrote:

seems to me that all the "protests" against some racist cops are working. kaepernick deserves some recognition.

I never confuse correlation with causation, but the flatline beginning September 2016 is interesting.

BRIGGS @ 9/29/2017 2:26 PM
nixluva @ 9/29/2017 2:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/librarian-f...

I don't think it was necessary to reject the books. The Librarian could've just accepted and later donated to a needy Library but this was her explanation of her feelings about the donation:

djsunyc @ 9/29/2017 3:43 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
djsunyc wrote:

seems to me that all the "protests" against some racist cops are working. kaepernick deserves some recognition.

I never confuse correlation with causation, but the flatline beginning September 2016 is interesting.

he first sat in aug of 2016.

kaepernick on aug 28 of 2016

"I'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed. To me, this is something that has to change. When there's significant change and I feel that flag represents what it's supposed to represent, and this country is representing people the way that it's supposed to, I'll stand."

"This stand wasn’t for me. This is because I’m seeing things happen to people that don’t have a voice, people that don’t have a platform to talk and have their voices heard, and effect change. So I’m in the position where I can do that and I’m going to do that for people that can’t."

"It's something that can unify this team. It's something that can unify this country. If we have these real conversations that are uncomfortable for a lot of people. If we have these conversations, there's a better understanding of where both sides are coming from."

"I have great respect for the men and women that have fought for this country. I have family, I have friends that have gone and fought for this country. And they fight for freedom, they fight for the people, they fight for liberty and justice, for everyone. That’s not happening. People are dying in vain because this country isn’t holding their end of the bargain up, as far as giving freedom and justice, liberty to everybody. That’s something that’s not happening. I’ve seen videos, I’ve seen circumstances where men and women that have been in the military have come back and been treated unjustly by the country they fought have for, and have been murdered by the country they fought for, on our land. That’s not right."

i think he helped make a change.

Knickoftime @ 9/29/2017 3:51 PM
djsunyc wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
djsunyc wrote:

seems to me that all the "protests" against some racist cops are working. kaepernick deserves some recognition.

I never confuse correlation with causation, but the flatline beginning September 2016 is interesting.

he first sat in aug of 2016.

kaepernick on aug 28 of 2016

I know, that's what's interesting.

nixluva @ 9/29/2017 4:46 PM
Knickoftime @ 9/29/2017 4:51 PM
nixluva wrote:

Now Donald, about all that golf...

nixluva @ 9/29/2017 5:04 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
nixluva wrote:

Now Donald, about all that golf...

The crazy thing is Price is just ONE of Trump's Administration that has been wasting taxpayer dollars. Not to mention as you say Trump's own wastefulness which is ridiculous.

Knickoftime @ 9/29/2017 5:06 PM
nixluva wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
nixluva wrote:

Now Donald, about all that golf...

The crazy thing is Price is just ONE of Trump's Administration that has been wasting taxpayer dollars. Not to mention as you say Trump's own wastefulness which is ridiculous.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/29...

Let's see if anyone can dispute this substantively without an ad hominem attack on the Tax Policy Center.

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