Knicks · What this team needs going 4 ward (page 3)
awe1028 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:nixluva wrote:Knickoftime wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:BRIGGS wrote:One big thing we lack--a player who controls the dribble who can make plays--we do NOT have 1 right nowIm not counting on Noah and I think Oquinn is a goner next year--so we need a 4/5 who is 6-9 245 who can play basketball. Also Im not sure about KP's durability.
Were going to need a little more size and skill from the 3 long term. I like Beasley for this years team as a 6th or 7th man--but hes signed to a 1 yr contract and it will be up in the air what he brings.
I think SG were all set unless we find a player who is just dominant in the draft and happens to play 2 guard.
Since you think the Knicks are winning "25 games tops," one of those players should be available via a good draft pick.
mills doesn't want that type of player, so even there were 10 available, according to him, he would have still picked frank
When did he say that?
This is what I found about Mills take on Nitty:
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Click here to view the TweetUnless I'm misreading the tweet, it in no way says Mills doesn't want a "player who controls the dribble who can make plays"
Only a moron concludes because he endorses picking Ntilikina this draft that he doesn't want that type of player ever.
he's not going to be around long enough to see any of these players develop if they don't start winning, like this season
Well, that has nothing whatsoever to do with your claim about what type of players Mills doesn't want. That was still stupid.
Knicks1248 only cares about his own instant satisfaction of seeing the Knicks win immediately. He will try to finesse it to look like its whats best for the Knicks. But at the end of the day its only to feed his own desire for immediate satisfaction.
WHAT THE heck are you talking about, we haven't won sht in 44 yrs, and have had 3 consecutive lottery season.
you guys think by pressing the reset button every season, we should disregard the pass. immediate satisfaction?? don't make me laugh.same regime and we/I should "BE Patient"...oooooohhh this time it's going to work, we just need 5 more losing season to make in 9 in row, and we should be contending...gtfo with the BS
when Isaiah took over- be patient
when walsh took over- be patient
when grunwald took over- be patient
when mills took over- be patient
when phil took over- be patient
now mills is taken over again-I should be patient, he's the man that knows how to build a contender Right ? we have so much evidence of that..some of you are at the point where you will support any regime that comes in with a plan, and I will too, but after too many fck ups, I'm done. I don't see any melo haters saying, this is a new season lets give melo the benefit(you want him gone, end of story) we'll, I feel the same way about the FO
You remain patient if you want the Knicks to have the dominant sustained long term success that GSW, Cleveland and other teams that have built through the draft have had.
However rebuilding does not happen in one year it takes commitment and yes PATIENCE to do it right. None of those GMs you listed had the fortitude to stick to the rebuild except Phil.
Phil was the only one that has patiently built through the draft and now the Knicks are relevant again. Hopefully for our sakes Perry also have the patience to see the rebuild though. Fortunately thus far it seems that he does.
Fans understandably want their team to win now.
That's why fans do not given teams to run.
Nothing valuable is build fast. But anything can be destroyed very quickly.
This team was destroyed so many times over for the last 20 years that it is time for fans and for ownership for that matter to stop looking for miracles.
Or just stop doing things which give you pain instead of pleasure.
Looks like Dolan already get it... how about NY Knicks fans?
knicks1248 wrote:same regime and we/I should "BE Patient"...oooooohhh this time it's going to work, we just need 5 more losing season to make in 9 in row, and we should be contending...gtfo with the BSwhen Isaiah took over- be patient
when walsh took over- be patient
when grunwald took over- be patient
when mills took over- be patient
when phil took over- be patient
now mills is taken over again-I should be patient, he's the man that knows how to build a contender Right ? we have so much evidence of that..some of you are at the point where you will support any regime that comes in with a plan, and I will too, but after too many fck ups, I'm done.
What other choice is there?
"No, no don't tank, it doesn't work!"
What other choice is there?
"No, no , you can't build through the draft, draft picks are a total crapshoot!"
What other choice is there?
To build in the NBA takes YEARS. When the Clippers got Chris Paul, they traded a future 1st, Aminu and Eric Gordon. They still had Jordan and Griffin and Bledsoe at the time. To put together that range of assets took the Clippers like 6-7 years.
So yes, Phil Jackson only delayed the inevitable, like a bad toothache. If you wait forever to drill, then it only makes it all harder later. The Knicks need to do the same thing NOW as when Jackson first walked in the door. He only burned time to the inevitable.
TripleThreat wrote:knicks1248 wrote:same regime and we/I should "BE Patient"...oooooohhh this time it's going to work, we just need 5 more losing season to make in 9 in row, and we should be contending...gtfo with the BSwhen Isaiah took over- be patient
when walsh took over- be patient
when grunwald took over- be patient
when mills took over- be patient
when phil took over- be patient
now mills is taken over again-I should be patient, he's the man that knows how to build a contender Right ? we have so much evidence of that..some of you are at the point where you will support any regime that comes in with a plan, and I will too, but after too many fck ups, I'm done.
What other choice is there?"No, no don't tank, it doesn't work!"
What other choice is there?
"No, no , you can't build through the draft, draft picks are a total crapshoot!"
What other choice is there?
To build in the NBA takes YEARS. When the Clippers got Chris Paul, they traded a future 1st, Aminu and Eric Gordon. They still had Jordan and Griffin and Bledsoe at the time. To put together that range of assets took the Clippers like 6-7 years.
So yes, Phil Jackson only delayed the inevitable, like a bad toothache. If you wait forever to drill, then it only makes it all harder later. The Knicks need to do the same thing NOW as when Jackson first walked in the door. He only burned time to the inevitable.
You have to focus on every area to build a winner not just one, FA, TRADES, Drafts, Coaching. Its that simple, and it takes 3 to 4 yrs (getting better each yr). Exactly how we did it in the ewing era.
You remember how we got guys like LJ, sprewll, harper, Houston, childs, camby, we cetaintly didn't draft any of those MFkrs..lol.
We only had a few home grown players, Ew, ward, starks, hubert, mason. In a 12 yr span we had 3 coaches, Riley, Don,JVG (really 2 because JVG was a riley disciple) consistency.
If we are not better than last season with 80% of a returning roster and the same coaching staff, that means we didn't learn anything, we have not gotten better across the board, and the coaching staff sucks even when they have the ability to brand their own identity without a dictating president medaling in....you know what that would results in....... diving on the rest button yet again