Knicks · Basketball World Coming Around On KP (page 1)

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meloshouldgo wrote:Is this Nix porn??
We have waited a looooong time, we are due.

I really have been paying attention to the Opposing Broadcast teams and there is a unanimous praise of KP as a foundation player. It's clear that moving Melo was the right move at this time mainly because it allowed KP to be the focal point and that has sped up his growth.

KP still has a lot to learn. He has to learn how to deal with Double Teams. He's not really letting the offense flow THROUGH him in the way you'd like but he's still got time to learn how to do what a Duncan or Hakeem was able to do.

nixluva wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Is this Nix porn??
We have waited a looooong time, we are due.

I really have been paying attention to the Opposing Broadcast teams and there is a unanimous praise of KP as a foundation player. It's clear that moving Melo was the right move at this time mainly because it allowed KP to be the focal point and that has sped up his growth.

KP still has a lot to learn. He has to learn how to deal with Double Teams. He's not really letting the offense flow THROUGH him in the way you'd like but he's still got time to learn how to do what a Duncan or Hakeem was able to do.

Bull sht..Getting rid of the triangle and allowing Jh to coach his system is making all the difference in the world. Melo was always willing to let KP do his thing. 12 months to date we were 14-11, then phil started the melo crap, and the triangle practices, and told JH to strictly run the triangle (after the xmas loss) and the bottom fell out.

Drose abandon ship, Jennings not giving sht about running any damn triangle, Noah cringing in pain after every rebound, KOQ was super inconsistent, Lance hurt.. we are doing the same as least season with less talent. If melo was on this roster and JH running his own stuff, we would be over 500, although we would still need KaNTER..lol

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Is this Nix porn??
We have waited a looooong time, we are due.

I really have been paying attention to the Opposing Broadcast teams and there is a unanimous praise of KP as a foundation player. It's clear that moving Melo was the right move at this time mainly because it allowed KP to be the focal point and that has sped up his growth.

KP still has a lot to learn. He has to learn how to deal with Double Teams. He's not really letting the offense flow THROUGH him in the way you'd like but he's still got time to learn how to do what a Duncan or Hakeem was able to do.

Bull sht..Getting rid of the triangle and allowing Jh to coach his system is making all the difference in the world. Melo was always willing to let KP do his thing. 12 months to date we were 14-11, then phil started the melo crap, and the triangle practices, and told JH to strictly run the triangle (after the xmas loss) and the bottom fell out.

Drose abandon ship, Jennings not giving sht about running any damn triangle, Noah cringing in pain after every rebound, KOQ was super inconsistent, Lance hurt.. we are doing the same as least season with less talent. If melo was on this roster and JH running his own stuff, we would be over 500, although we would still need KaNTER..lol

He is talking about the extra touches(20 shots per game & 33.9 usage) he now receives as the number one option instead of #2. As well as the fact that teams now game plan specifically to guard KP as the go to guy.

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Is this Nix porn??
We have waited a looooong time, we are due.

I really have been paying attention to the Opposing Broadcast teams and there is a unanimous praise of KP as a foundation player. It's clear that moving Melo was the right move at this time mainly because it allowed KP to be the focal point and that has sped up his growth.

KP still has a lot to learn. He has to learn how to deal with Double Teams. He's not really letting the offense flow THROUGH him in the way you'd like but he's still got time to learn how to do what a Duncan or Hakeem was able to do.

Bull sht..Getting rid of the triangle and allowing Jh to coach his system is making all the difference in the world. Melo was always willing to let KP do his thing. 12 months to date we were 14-11, then phil started the melo crap, and the triangle practices, and told JH to strictly run the triangle (after the xmas loss) and the bottom fell out.

Drose abandon ship, Jennings not giving sht about running any damn triangle, Noah cringing in pain after every rebound, KOQ was super inconsistent, Lance hurt.. we are doing the same as least season with less talent. If melo was on this roster and JH running his own stuff, we would be over 500, although we would still need KaNTER..lol

I think you missed the point. This isn’t about the offense being run but KP’s Role as the focal point. Melo wasn’t going to take a back seat to KP and Melo was kind of a crutch for the younger players in general. Hard for them to take on a larger role with Melo on the floor. Melo is a star and if he calls for the ball they’re gonna keep giving it to him.

Also you’re wrong about the Triangle last year. For one thing Phil didn’t call for the emphasis on Triangle until the end of February when the team was 24-36!!!

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Your memory is biased by Phil hate and Melo Love.

newyorknewyork wrote:It's always the triangle fault until a team loses a game or 2. Never seem to hear about triangle during loses like vs the Bulls the other night.

we under estimated the bulls, in fact, they haven't loss since we played them

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:It's always the triangle fault until a team loses a game or 2. Never seem to hear about triangle during loses like vs the Bulls the other night.

we under estimated the bulls, in fact, they haven't loss since we played them

So what your trying to say is that wins and losses can be determined by the level of effort a team puts out. That regardless of system if the teams effort is poor they still have high odds of losing that game. Hmmm interesting concept.

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Is this Nix porn??
We have waited a looooong time, we are due.

I really have been paying attention to the Opposing Broadcast teams and there is a unanimous praise of KP as a foundation player. It's clear that moving Melo was the right move at this time mainly because it allowed KP to be the focal point and that has sped up his growth.

KP still has a lot to learn. He has to learn how to deal with Double Teams. He's not really letting the offense flow THROUGH him in the way you'd like but he's still got time to learn how to do what a Duncan or Hakeem was able to do.

Bull sht..Getting rid of the triangle and allowing Jh to coach his system is making all the difference in the world. Melo was always willing to let KP do his thing. 12 months to date we were 14-11, then phil started the melo crap, and the triangle practices, and told JH to strictly run the triangle (after the xmas loss) and the bottom fell out.

Drose abandon ship, Jennings not giving sht about running any damn triangle, Noah cringing in pain after every rebound, KOQ was super inconsistent, Lance hurt.. we are doing the same as least season with less talent. If melo was on this roster and JH running his own stuff, we would be over 500, although we would still need KaNTER..lol

Still making excuses for Melo? SMDH.....

newyorknewyork wrote:It's always the triangle fault until a team loses a game or 2. Never seem to hear about triangle during loses like vs the Bulls the other night.

Bulls beat Boston the next game I think. BUlls are no pushover at the moment.

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:It's always the triangle fault until a team loses a game or 2. Never seem to hear about triangle during loses like vs the Bulls the other night.

we under estimated the bulls, in fact, they haven't loss since we played them

"we"? Your taking some of this on??

nixluva wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Is this Nix porn??
We have waited a looooong time, we are due.

I really have been paying attention to the Opposing Broadcast teams and there is a unanimous praise of KP as a foundation player. It's clear that moving Melo was the right move at this time mainly because it allowed KP to be the focal point and that has sped up his growth.

KP still has a lot to learn. He has to learn how to deal with Double Teams. He's not really letting the offense flow THROUGH him in the way you'd like but he's still got time to learn how to do what a Duncan or Hakeem was able to do.

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:It's always the triangle fault until a team loses a game or 2. Never seem to hear about triangle during loses like vs the Bulls the other night.

we under estimated the bulls, in fact, they haven't loss since we played them

"we"? Your taking some of this on??

what's the problem with that?

nixluva wrote:I’ve been noticing an increase in praise of KP and his game as well as his potential. This year has made it much clearer what kind of player he is. There were a lot of doubts that he could be a Franchise Player but those are fading.

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David Stern did something no one had ever done before in team sports. He highlighted marketing around the individual player. The NBA was the last dog to the bowl for a long time, and there were many pretty horrible players in the league, but he built around Bird and Magic, until Jordan, then when Kobe decided to go full blown rapist and Grant Hill got hurt, he used a shotgun approach. But the league has never changed in that regard.

People forget, before the Warriors were a powerhouse, national TV broadcasts had to try to sell the "interest" in guys like Jason Richardson. Antawn Jamison. Donyell Marshall.

People remember Richardson now for getting Steve Nash's wife pregnant, and the league actually intervening to basically save his life and Tony Parkers ( Don't mess with another dudes wife, not sure how these guys think they are bulletproof. ) They forget the NBA tried to force feed him down the public's throat when the Warriors got a rare national TV broadcast during their ugly years.

Zinger is really an awesome player, but if he was 1/5th of the player, he'd still be the best the Knicks had and the league would try to prop him up as a star.

Maybe the most pathetic thing about the NBA marketing wing is when Baron Davis got his nice fat contract, got FAT, then had to be photoshopped to not look so fat in print/static ads, because he was the best player on his team. Again, the Warriors. The rumors were, the team that digitally had to go in and fix Kevin Costner's receding hairline, frame by frame, in the 200 million bomb Waterworld, had to come in and make Baron Davis look not so fat.

For a while, broadcasters had to try to go to Houston and extol the virtues of Kevin Martin.

I don't know what to tell you. The media says something nix, and you just believe everything you are told, word for word.