Knicks · Time to Trade Lee so Dotson can shine (page 1)
meloshouldgo wrote:EnySpree wrote:Dotson paid his dues this year. Time to turn him lose. Lee at 32 years old has had his time. KP is out so we gotta find Lee a new home. Hats off to him cuz he played so hard for us, having his best year... we should be able to get something decent for him... a waivable player, pick and a youngin. Doesn't have to be crazy.Trade THJR as well while we are at it
Uh-oh, I feel a name change coming on
Sangfroid wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:EnySpree wrote:Dotson paid his dues this year. Time to turn him lose. Lee at 32 years old has had his time. KP is out so we gotta find Lee a new home. Hats off to him cuz he played so hard for us, having his best year... we should be able to get something decent for him... a waivable player, pick and a youngin. Doesn't have to be crazy.Trade THJR as well while we are at it
Uh-oh, I feel a name change coming on
LOL - I already tried once, asked to have my name changed to 67 Shelby. But it was completely ignored by the mods...
But everyone should be available- KP, THjr, Lee, Dotson, Kanter.
Obviously, some make a lot more sense to move.
If I can clear Lee off my cap, I do it. I don't need anything back. Unfortunately, dumping him is the price we pay for having Noah.
What an awful summer that was with Phil - trading Lopez who basically has played EVERY game for Noah, Derek Rose & Lee.
How much better would we be if we had not made those deals & perhaps even not resigned Melo. Playing it out in my head is depressing.
franco12 wrote:Lee has a lot of money still owed him. If we got squat for Willy, we'd probably have to include a pick or two to get a team to take LeeBut everyone should be available- KP, THjr, Lee, Dotson, Kanter.
Obviously, some make a lot more sense to move.
If I can clear Lee off my cap, I do it. I don't need anything back. Unfortunately, dumping him is the price we pay for having Noah.
What an awful summer that was with Phil - trading Lopez who basically has played EVERY game for Noah, Derek Rose & Lee.
How much better would we be if we had not made those deals & perhaps even not resigned Melo. Playing it out in my head is depressing.
We can only deal with now.... if we keep looking back we're gonna start stressing over the Richie Guerin years
franco12 wrote:Lee has a lot of money still owed him. If we got squat for Willy, we'd probably have to include a pick or two to get a team to take LeeBut everyone should be available- KP, THjr, Lee, Dotson, Kanter.
Obviously, some make a lot more sense to move.
If I can clear Lee off my cap, I do it. I don't need anything back. Unfortunately, dumping him is the price we pay for having Noah.
What an awful summer that was with Phil - trading Lopez who basically has played EVERY game for Noah, Derek Rose & Lee.
How much better would we be if we had not made those deals & perhaps even not resigned Melo. Playing it out in my head is depressing.
KP should not and will not be made available. We are trying to build here. This injury does not effect him long-term. Let's not do the typical "Knick" thing here. Let's stay committed to something for once. You make him available then word gets out quick and that trust is broken. That trust will prevent any hope of people wanting to play here. The circus will continue. We are trying to build something here, and it starts with Porzingis, injury or not.
franco12 wrote:Lee has a lot of money still owed him. If we got squat for Willy, we'd probably have to include a pick or two to get a team to take LeeBut everyone should be available- KP, THjr, Lee, Dotson, Kanter.
Obviously, some make a lot more sense to move.
If I can clear Lee off my cap, I do it. I don't need anything back. Unfortunately, dumping him is the price we pay for having Noah.
What an awful summer that was with Phil - trading Lopez who basically has played EVERY game for Noah, Derek Rose & Lee.
How much better would we be if we had not made those deals & perhaps even not resigned Melo. Playing it out in my head is depressing.
He doesn't have a terrible contract, and on a good team he would have a lot of value. I thought we would work Dotson in during the season and deal Lee at the trade deadline, but as long as we had a chance, even a slim one, I thought we should keep him because he was playing well... but now?
This has been the best statistical year of his career, from what I can see. He is a good 3 pt shooter, and has played a more diverse game than usual as far as attacking the basket this year (from what I can see). Doesn't make a lot of mistakes as a player...does not need the ball to be effective, and he has playoff experience.
Both Lee and KOQ have the ability to help a contending team, and should net us some assets.
franco12 wrote:Lee has a lot of money still owed him. If we got squat for Willy, we'd probably have to include a pick or two to get a team to take LeeTotally disagree with this. Lee would be a valuable addition to just about any playoff team. What we would get in return, I have no idea. But no way we'd have to add a pick just to move Lee.
We didn't get squat for Willy because he hasn't produced squat.
Welpee wrote:franco12 wrote:Lee has a lot of money still owed him. If we got squat for Willy, we'd probably have to include a pick or two to get a team to take LeeTotally disagree with this. Lee would be a valuable addition to just about any playoff team. What we would get in return, I have no idea. But no way we'd have to add a pick just to move Lee.We didn't get squat for Willy because he hasn't produced squat.
Franco is a Nets fan now. Whats he know?
Agree 100% on the thread.
Once Frank's knee is better he should be back at 25+ minutes. Dotson and Burke should be getting starter type minutes.
WaltLongmire wrote:franco12 wrote:Lee has a lot of money still owed him. If we got squat for Willy, we'd probably have to include a pick or two to get a team to take LeeBut everyone should be available- KP, THjr, Lee, Dotson, Kanter.
Obviously, some make a lot more sense to move.
If I can clear Lee off my cap, I do it. I don't need anything back. Unfortunately, dumping him is the price we pay for having Noah.
What an awful summer that was with Phil - trading Lopez who basically has played EVERY game for Noah, Derek Rose & Lee.
How much better would we be if we had not made those deals & perhaps even not resigned Melo. Playing it out in my head is depressing.
He doesn't have a terrible contract, and on a good team he would have a lot of value. I thought we would work Dotson in during the season and deal Lee at the trade deadline, but as long as we had a chance, even a slim one, I thought we should keep him because he was playing well... but now?This has been the best statistical year of his career, from what I can see. He is a good 3 pt shooter, and has played a more diverse game than usual as far as attacking the basket this year (from what I can see). Doesn't make a lot of mistakes as a player...does not need the ball to be effective, and he has playoff experience.
Both Lee and KOQ have the ability to help a contending team, and should net us some assets.
On a contending team he would be terrific, but his salary runs 2 more yrs and he's 32, KOQ is opting out next season, are you really giving up a 1st pick for one yr at best.
The most were getting his a 2nd rounder and a fringe player
knicks1248 wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:franco12 wrote:Lee has a lot of money still owed him. If we got squat for Willy, we'd probably have to include a pick or two to get a team to take LeeBut everyone should be available- KP, THjr, Lee, Dotson, Kanter.
Obviously, some make a lot more sense to move.
If I can clear Lee off my cap, I do it. I don't need anything back. Unfortunately, dumping him is the price we pay for having Noah.
What an awful summer that was with Phil - trading Lopez who basically has played EVERY game for Noah, Derek Rose & Lee.
How much better would we be if we had not made those deals & perhaps even not resigned Melo. Playing it out in my head is depressing.
He doesn't have a terrible contract, and on a good team he would have a lot of value. I thought we would work Dotson in during the season and deal Lee at the trade deadline, but as long as we had a chance, even a slim one, I thought we should keep him because he was playing well... but now?This has been the best statistical year of his career, from what I can see. He is a good 3 pt shooter, and has played a more diverse game than usual as far as attacking the basket this year (from what I can see). Doesn't make a lot of mistakes as a player...does not need the ball to be effective, and he has playoff experience.
Both Lee and KOQ have the ability to help a contending team, and should net us some assets.
On a contending team he would be terrific, but his salary runs 2 more yrs and he's 32, KOQ is opting out next season, are you really giving up a 1st pick for one yr at best.
The most were getting his a 2nd rounder and a fringe player
A second round pick is better than nothing. He will leave.
Take anything that might turn into something.