Knicks · Tim "clank" hardaway (page 2)

BRIGGS wrote:He must be the worst starting Sg in the league right-- as in 30/30-- another Knicks nightmare

Oh I can think of someone worse. Allen Crabbe. Ever hear of him?

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BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:Glad people are finally coming over to my point of view.

Another huge contract mess. This team will never change. It's so bad right now -- we have a Rubiks Cube roster. I'd keep Kornett for unit 2 and pray Kp comes through healthy-- and then I could say dump the other 13 and start new.

coming from the guy who wanted to max out
Allen Crabbe
Ener Kanter
Isaiaiaiaih Thomas

you sir must have very sore arms from how hard you pat yourself on the back for 5 times out of 732 guesses that you are correct

BigDaddyG wrote:

arkrud wrote:Don't bash our main tank driver.
He does what he can to have us lose every game.
I love his confidence in ability to miss every shot.
And so naturally no one can say we are tanking.
Brilliant night in and night out performance!!!

That's right, our tank game tight and getting tighter.

Destro was so bad ass!

fishmike wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

arkrud wrote:Don't bash our main tank driver.
He does what he can to have us lose every game.
I love his confidence in ability to miss every shot.
And so naturally no one can say we are tanking.
Brilliant night in and night out performance!!!

That's right, our tank game tight and getting tighter.

Destro was so bad ass!

Yeah, through live action movie didn't do him justice! I tried sitting through an old episode about a week ago and couldn't make it past the first three minutes. But I was addicted to it like crack as a kid. Remember the cheesy Refrigerator Perry figure lol

martin wrote:

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Id take Aayton around 5-6. If number 1 the only decision I have is Young or Bagley

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:Glad people are finally coming over to my point of view.

Another huge contract mess. This team will never change. It's so bad right now -- we have a Rubiks Cube roster. I'd keep Kornett for unit 2 and pray Kp comes through healthy-- and then I could say dump the other 13 and start new.

coming from the guy who wanted to max out
Allen Crabbe
Ener Kanter
Isaiaiaiaih Thomas

you sir must have very sore arms from how hard you pat yourself on the back for 5 times out of 732 guesses that you are correct

Fishmike--I T 2 is better than all of the Knicks guards combined--actually not even close. Crabbe was a top 3 NBA 3 point shooter when he was signed--he went to a team with different spacing and schemes than Portland--although hes spawned life over the last few games. Hes better than Hardaway from 3 point land--its not close. Crabbe had one bad half season--Hardaway has had a bad 5 years sans a dozen or so. Its so stupid to argue for It2 we wish we had IT2. We havent had any good PGs for years.

martin wrote:

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I don't know if our tank can muster enough horsepower for those two. We might have to settle for this.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

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I don't know if our tank can muster enough horsepower for those two. We might have to settle for this.

If I got pick 1 Id try very hard to trade donw 1-2 spots and pull off a deal like Boston did last year. Three guys Id take Trae young Huthinson and Jerome Robinson. The big man is a dinosaur in this game--hes a running back in the NFL. You dont take them 1 unless its a shq or duncan--and the only POSSIBLE Duncan is Bagley. The problem is we have KP which makes Bagley not as enticing. But certainly--atleast to me its a two way race at the top. Miles Bridges--well he reminds me a lot of justin Andersen. Maybe hes better but hes not what we ultimately need.

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

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I don't know if our tank can muster enough horsepower for those two. We might have to settle for this.

If I got pick 1 Id try very hard to trade donw 1-2 spots and pull off a deal like Boston did last year. Three guys Id take Trae young Huthinson and Jerome Robinson. The big man is a dinosaur in this game--hes a running back in the NFL. You dont take them 1 unless its a shq or duncan--and the only POSSIBLE Duncan is Bagley. The problem is we have KP which makes Bagley not as enticing. But certainly--atleast to me its a two way race at the top. Miles Bridges--well he reminds me a lot of justin Andersen. Maybe hes better but hes not what we ultimately need.

We need a lot of things lol I'd say, at the bare minimum, Miles can bring a turbo charged version of what Lance does. His ability to shoot and guard three frontcourt positions in today's game is something EVERY team needs. I had Bagley as #1 before the season, but I like Ayton's potential more. I don't see centers as going extinct, but evolving. Remember how guys used to kill David Robinson for not having a lot of refined post moves? Now Robinson's face up game is the norm every big man wants to achieve.

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

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I don't know if our tank can muster enough horsepower for those two. We might have to settle for this.

If I got pick 1 Id try very hard to trade donw 1-2 spots and pull off a deal like Boston did last year. Three guys Id take Trae young Huthinson and Jerome Robinson. The big man is a dinosaur in this game--hes a running back in the NFL. You dont take them 1 unless its a shq or duncan--and the only POSSIBLE Duncan is Bagley. The problem is we have KP which makes Bagley not as enticing. But certainly--atleast to me its a two way race at the top. Miles Bridges--well he reminds me a lot of justin Andersen. Maybe hes better but hes not what we ultimately need.

We need a lot of things lol I'd say, at the bare minimum, Miles can bring a turbo charged version of what Lance does. His ability to shoot and guard three frontcourt positions in today's game is something EVERY team needs. I had Bagley as #1 before the season, but I like Ayton's potential more. I don't see centers as going extinct, but evolving. Remember how guys used to kill David Robinson for not having a lot of refined post moves? Now Robinson's face up game is the norm every big man wants to achieve.

Id take Bamba over Aayton.
In order

Bagley
Young
Porter
Doncic
Bamba
AAyton
Carter(who's stock is rising)
Strategic move down If Hutchinson could shoot the three better--Id take him 8 but he still is working there so 13 and down. Sleeper Jerome Robinson (15 and down) but I want to see more in other categories(but how do you not like the shot making???). If you put Hutchinson and Robinson together--THEN you got a playa!

Guys Im out on Jaren Jackson Colin Sexton both Bridges on the fence with Knox who I once really liked(maybe he makes a run?)

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:Glad people are finally coming over to my point of view.

Another huge contract mess. This team will never change. It's so bad right now -- we have a Rubiks Cube roster. I'd keep Kornett for unit 2 and pray Kp comes through healthy-- and then I could say dump the other 13 and start new.

coming from the guy who wanted to max out
Allen Crabbe
Ener Kanter
Isaiaiaiaih Thomas

you sir must have very sore arms from how hard you pat yourself on the back for 5 times out of 732 guesses that you are correct

Fishmike--I T 2 is better than all of the Knicks guards combined--actually not even close. Crabbe was a top 3 NBA 3 point shooter when he was signed--he went to a team with different spacing and schemes than Portland--although hes spawned life over the last few games. Hes better than Hardaway from 3 point land--its not close. Crabbe had one bad half season--Hardaway has had a bad 5 years sans a dozen or so. Its so stupid to argue for It2 we wish we had IT2. We havent had any good PGs for years.

almost as stupid as the players you covet, who are simply not good. But carry on. Anthony Randolph is a force in China right now

MS wrote:Hardaway isn’t a number 3 guy. Leave it to this team to overpay a year before the market normalizes.

You have to put stock on a guy that can’t hit a fucking 3 pointer but still feels the need to shoot 0-8. That’s some balls. 8-54 on 3pointers recently. The guy is brain dead. Drive the ball and stop taking bad shots.

He did that in college. So he's learning....and when he's pressured to do something...he falls back on old college habits. But he's always been a gunner. in atl....he started to drive more. Without KP....and with burke.....he went back to his old habits. im sure his dad and everybody else is in his ear saying......KEEP SHOOTING. what they should be saying is KEEP DRIVING. and u saw that on the first play yesterday. Unfortunately he's still developing and learning whike making 72 mil.....what a life to live. God bless him.

Tim was a desperatppipn heave by mills to show he was confident and knew what he was doing. Another immovable brick of a contract.

I was against the signing was happy to see Hardaway leave the last time, but this is a different player.

Timmy has gotten the crap kicked out of him taking charges, He's fought back from a serious injury. Is going to the rim. Is trying not to be a drag on the team.

As a fan, when I see a player do these things while they're going through a slump, Im less prone to just saying they suck.

Hardaway is approaching this rough patch with the right attitude, hope he can sort things out. KP not being there as the number one option, could be part of it.

If Hardaway can learn this season to be a factor without KP, then we will be in good shape going into next season.

GustavBahler wrote:I was against the signing was happy to see Hardaway leave the last time, but this is a different player.

Timmy has gotten the crap kicked out of him taking charges, He's fought back from a serious injury. Is going to the rim. Is trying not to be a drag on the team.

As a fan, when I see a player do these things while they're going through a slump, Im less prone to just saying they suck.

Hardaway is approaching this rough patch with the right attitude, hope he can sort things out. KP not being there as the number one option, could be part of it.

If Hardaway can learn this season to be a factor without KP, then we will be in good shape going into next season.

He doesnt sck--but we cant have 3 or 4 guys shooting so low and hope to win.

BRIGGS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I was against the signing was happy to see Hardaway leave the last time, but this is a different player.

Timmy has gotten the crap kicked out of him taking charges, He's fought back from a serious injury. Is going to the rim. Is trying not to be a drag on the team.

As a fan, when I see a player do these things while they're going through a slump, Im less prone to just saying they suck.

Hardaway is approaching this rough patch with the right attitude, hope he can sort things out. KP not being there as the number one option, could be part of it.

If Hardaway can learn this season to be a factor without KP, then we will be in good shape going into next season.

He doesnt sck--but we cant have 3 or 4 guys shooting so low and hope to win.

I agree, but if there ever was a time for Hardaway to work on being more consistent, a legit starter, this is it. We're out of the hunt.

LOL, listening to the radio, a rap tune called "Hardaway" is playing. I predict Hardaway will bust out of this slump!

Basketball Gods stuff.

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

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I don't know if our tank can muster enough horsepower for those two. We might have to settle for this.

If I got pick 1 Id try very hard to trade donw 1-2 spots and pull off a deal like Boston did last year. Three guys Id take Trae young Huthinson and Jerome Robinson. The big man is a dinosaur in this game--hes a running back in the NFL. You dont take them 1 unless its a shq or duncan--and the only POSSIBLE Duncan is Bagley. The problem is we have KP which makes Bagley not as enticing. But certainly--atleast to me its a two way race at the top. Miles Bridges--well he reminds me a lot of justin Andersen. Maybe hes better but hes not what we ultimately need.

We need a lot of things lol I'd say, at the bare minimum, Miles can bring a turbo charged version of what Lance does. His ability to shoot and guard three frontcourt positions in today's game is something EVERY team needs. I had Bagley as #1 before the season, but I like Ayton's potential more. I don't see centers as going extinct, but evolving. Remember how guys used to kill David Robinson for not having a lot of refined post moves? Now Robinson's face up game is the norm every big man wants to achieve.

Id take Bamba over Aayton.
In order

Bagley
Young
Porter
Doncic
Bamba
AAyton
Carter(who's stock is rising)
Strategic move down If Hutchinson could shoot the three better--Id take him 8 but he still is working there so 13 and down. Sleeper Jerome Robinson (15 and down) but I want to see more in other categories(but how do you not like the shot making???). If you put Hutchinson and Robinson together--THEN you got a playa!

Guys Im out on Jaren Jackson Colin Sexton both Bridges on the fence with Knox who I once really liked(maybe he makes a run?)

Interesting that you don't love Miles Bridges. He checks off most boxes you have spoken about consistently. Good shooter, great athlete, big body. He's NBA ready. Probably not the playmaker some other guys are, but he's a big time talent.

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He must be the worst starting Sg in the league right-- as in 30/30-- another Knicks nightmare

Oh I can think of someone worse. Allen Crabbe. Ever hear of him?

Fish calling guys out on misteps. Crabbe looks like MJ compared to some of the guys you pushed in the past. (Rose, Noah)

This thread is 100% correct. Tim has shot nothing but "clanks". I liked Timmy. Did not agree when Phil gave up on him for the "Triangle" guard who played so well here. I was against his 4 year deal. Hoped he would prove me wrong. He hasn't.

he had a good stretch before getting hurt. Looked well worth the $$.

Moving forward he must become consistent! Just liek KP and the team. Harden is good almost every night...same with all the great ones.

He has the skills and desire...needs the mental...should see sports psychologist.