Knicks · Stay at 9 and hope for Trae Young (page 4)
knickstorrents@ 6/3/2018 11:45 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Does Curry look any different than Young?
He looks a full two inches shorter, or more.
meloshouldgo@ 6/3/2018 12:06 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
reub wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Does Curry look any different than Young?
Didnt watch all of it, but looked like they were testing Young's stamina and 3pt shooting (sorry if its a repost)
Great shooter, nice handle, great passer. But he's going to be taken to the cleaners with his size and defense.
Not sure when fans started wanting only to draft players with NBA ready bodies coming out of college. Leaves out a lot of all stars, as well as HOFers, present and future. If Young turns out to be the real deal on offense, and just average on D, its worth the pick. We need a PG that draws double and triple teams away from KP, anyone who gets hot.
Unfortunately as someone mentioned upthread, its almost too perfect a situation for the Cavs not to ruin, lol.
Here's a look at his complete list of his other measurements, via NBA.com:
Body Fat Percentage: 5.35
Hand Length: 8.00''
Hand Width: 9 ¼''
Height Without Shoes: 6' ½''
Standing Reach: 7'11 ½''
Wingspan: 6'3''
BigDaddyG@ 6/3/2018 1:20 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
reub wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Does Curry look any different than Young?
Didnt watch all of it, but looked like they were testing Young's stamina and 3pt shooting (sorry if its a repost)
Great shooter, nice handle, great passer. But he's going to be taken to the cleaners with his size and defense.
Not sure when fans started wanting only to draft players with NBA ready bodies coming out of college. Leaves out a lot of all stars, as well as HOFers, present and future. If Young turns out to be the real deal on offense, and just average on D, its worth the pick. We need a PG that draws double and triple teams away from KP, anyone who gets hot.
Unfortunately as someone mentioned upthread, its almost too perfect a situation for the Cavs not to ruin, lol.
Does even play defense? Average?
His best defense is a pull up 3 in transition.
CrushAlot@ 6/3/2018 1:38 PM
CrushAlot@ 6/3/2018 3:02 PM
This mock is from 4/30 but they have Trae going at 16. Interesting because I came across the site because one of the guys that writes for, The Stepien, also writes for this site. The Stepien ranks Trae as a tier 2 prospect and the number 3 prospect overall. http://lockdraft.com/wordpress/lockdraft...
BRIGGS@ 6/3/2018 3:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:This mock is from 4/30 but they have Trae going at 16. Interesting because I came across the site because one of the guys that writes for, The Stepien, also writes for this site. The Stepien ranks Trae as a tier 2 prospect and the number 3 prospect overall. http://lockdraft.com/wordpress/lockdraft...
Talking about drafts— the Jets will find out they got dogged. All of those picks for a mentally soft qb. No way on Earth Young sits till 16– I’m not sure he passes 3 after thinking about it. It will be a weird draft
GustavBahler@ 6/3/2018 3:44 PM
knickstorrents wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Does Curry look any different than Young?
He looks a full two inches shorter, or more.
One of them is 19, the other pushing 30...
nixluva@ 6/3/2018 4:03 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:This mock is from 4/30 but they have Trae going at 16. Interesting because I came across the site because one of the guys that writes for, The Stepien, also writes for this site. The Stepien ranks Trae as a tier 2 prospect and the number 3 prospect overall. http://lockdraft.com/wordpress/lockdraft...
Talking about drafts— the Jets will find out they got dogged. All of those picks for a mentally soft qb. No way on Earth Young sits till 16– I’m not sure he passes 3 after thinking about it. It will be a weird draft
What’s this slanderous Trash you’re talking about Sam Darnold? That boy is LEGIT! I’d say he was worth what they gave up and more considering how hard it is to find a Franchise Level QB!
Trae Young IMO is a better passing version of small PG’s Like Kemba or IT. He’ll be a liability on D but should be a high level offensive play maker. I don’t think he’s what this team needs but if they took him I would expect they had a high ranking on him.
blkexec@ 6/3/2018 4:21 PM
nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:This mock is from 4/30 but they have Trae going at 16. Interesting because I came across the site because one of the guys that writes for, The Stepien, also writes for this site. The Stepien ranks Trae as a tier 2 prospect and the number 3 prospect overall. http://lockdraft.com/wordpress/lockdraft...
Talking about drafts— the Jets will find out they got dogged. All of those picks for a mentally soft qb. No way on Earth Young sits till 16– I’m not sure he passes 3 after thinking about it. It will be a weird draft
What’s this slanderous Trash you’re talking about Sam Darnold? That boy is LEGIT! I’d say he was worth what they gave up and more considering how hard it is to find a Franchise Level QB!
Trae Young IMO is a better passing version of small PG’s Like Kemba or IT. He’ll be a liability on D but should be a high level offensive play maker. I don’t think he’s what this team needs but if they took him I would expect they had a high ranking on him.
Perry and company already said they want length and two way skill sets. There's going to be lots of smoke screens prior to the draft. Unless Young blows them away, I can't see them picking young over mikal. There's lots of PGs on this coaching staff including new addition Ivey. And we have plenty of PGs on the team to evaluate and compare. I trust this coaching staff....With there guard development.
Paris907@ 6/3/2018 5:40 PM
I like both Trae and Sexton but the guy that caught my eye is Lonnie Walker. He’s got a chance to go top 10 and blends in at Sg with Frank and KP. My ideal setting is grabbing Wendell at 9 and trading Lee or KO through sign and trade w either Clippers or Denver. I’d move Dotson if we had to for 12-13 and Walker.
knicks1248@ 6/3/2018 6:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I have zero confidence in Knicks management to have the vision to. What Trae Young is or the awareness and cahones to possibly trade up and make it happen
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Maybe with perry's ties to the orlando magic he can get a deal done to move up
nixluva@ 6/3/2018 6:53 PM
Paris907 wrote:I like both Trae and Sexton but the guy that caught my eye is Lonnie Walker. He’s got a chance to go top 10 and blends in at Sg with Frank and KP. My ideal setting is grabbing Wendell at 9 and trading Lee or KO through sign and trade w either Clippers or Denver. I’d move Dotson if we had to for 12-13 and Walker.
Yeah I really like Walker’s Potential. I also like Troy Brown as a multi skilled Wing. Knicks need another pick or 2 😁
BigDaddyG@ 6/3/2018 7:03 PM
nixluva wrote:
Paris907 wrote:I like both Trae and Sexton but the guy that caught my eye is Lonnie Walker. He’s got a chance to go top 10 and blends in at Sg with Frank and KP. My ideal setting is grabbing Wendell at 9 and trading Lee or KO through sign and trade w either Clippers or Denver. I’d move Dotson if we had to for 12-13 and Walker.
Yeah I really like Walker’s Potential. I also like Troy Brown as a multi skilled Wing. Knicks need another pick or 2 😁
Walker's IQ needs work on the court. I like him a little later in the first round and wouldn't mind him if we traded back. Brown's shooting worries me and the Stephen did a podcast highlighting his athletic deficiencies. I like Hutchinson over him. Admittedly, I haven't watched Brown since his hot start earlier this season.
knickstorrents@ 6/3/2018 9:38 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Does Curry look any different than Young?
Left out the most important stat. Curry was 2 1/2 years older. Still doesnt look all that different from Young. Not a legit reason to pass on Young. Not saying there arent any.
Jmpasq@ 6/3/2018 9:55 PM
knickstorrents wrote:Trae Young will get exposed in this league, he's a trap. Jimmer Fredette 2.0. Trae will be in China in a few years battling Mabuli and the 'Lonely Master' mark my words!!!!
Jimmer played all 4 years , he averaged 6 points his freshman year.
knicks1248@ 6/4/2018 9:03 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Trae Young will get exposed in this league, he's a trap. Jimmer Fredette 2.0. Trae will be in China in a few years battling Mabuli and the 'Lonely Master' mark my words!!!!
Jimmer played all 4 years , he averaged 6 points his freshman year.
Comparing trae to jimmer is borderline retarded, jimmer didn't have the quickness, the floor vision, or the ability to finish are the rim.
Even if trae is a suspect defender, he's fast, can shoot, and set dudes up lovely.
Avg 8.5 assist in college is a BIG DEAL, especially when your teammates are below avg
fishmike@ 6/4/2018 9:29 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Trae Young will get exposed in this league, he's a trap. Jimmer Fredette 2.0. Trae will be in China in a few years battling Mabuli and the 'Lonely Master' mark my words!!!!
Jimmer played all 4 years , he averaged 6 points his freshman year.
Comparing trae to jimmer is borderline retarded, jimmer didn't have the quickness, the floor vision, or the ability to finish are the rim.
Even if trae is a suspect defender, he's fast, can shoot, and set dudes up lovely.
Avg 8.5 assist in college is a BIG DEAL, especially when your teammates are below avg
8.5 assists is not a big deal, especially when you average 5+ TOs Young is not a finisher around the rim. You made that up as you do much of your info. He's got a lot of nice offensive moves... finishing at the rim is not one of them.
We keep coming back to the same thing... people use Curry as a precedent. Curry, best shooter ever, MVP and first ballot HOF. Boy that is suspect decision making.
I will say this... he's coming in for a workout. I dont think this FO is driven by splashy moves. They are preaching slow and steady so we will see. They have Burke. They have seen our guys. If they pick Young based on what they see with other guys on the board I will hope for the best and keep an open mind. That being said I have yet to see any argument of substance for taking Young at 9, based on his body of work and physical attributes
fishmike@ 6/4/2018 10:27 AM
Young shot 22.8 percent (28-of-123) in his final 11 games. He missed 21 straight 3-pointers during a three-game span. The Sooners lost nine of their last 11, including first-round exits in the Big 12 and NCAA Tournaments.
Imagine if Briggs did his scouting during this stretch
knicks1248@ 6/4/2018 10:31 AM
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Trae Young will get exposed in this league, he's a trap. Jimmer Fredette 2.0. Trae will be in China in a few years battling Mabuli and the 'Lonely Master' mark my words!!!!
Jimmer played all 4 years , he averaged 6 points his freshman year.
Comparing trae to jimmer is borderline retarded, jimmer didn't have the quickness, the floor vision, or the ability to finish are the rim.
Even if trae is a suspect defender, he's fast, can shoot, and set dudes up lovely.
Avg 8.5 assist in college is a BIG DEAL, especially when your teammates are below avg
8.5 assists is not a big deal, especially when you average 5+ TOs Young is not a finisher around the rim. You made that up as you do much of your info. He's got a lot of nice offensive moves... finishing at the rim is not one of them.
We keep coming back to the same thing... people use Curry as a precedent. Curry, best shooter ever, MVP and first ballot HOF. Boy that is suspect decision making.
I will say this... he's coming in for a workout. I dont think this FO is driven by splashy moves. They are preaching slow and steady so we will see. They have Burke. They have seen our guys. If they pick Young based on what they see with other guys on the board I will hope for the best and keep an open mind. That being said I have yet to see any argument of substance for taking Young at 9, based on his body of work and physical attributes
Look, I'm not saying he doesn't have flaws and he's a finish product, im saying don't dare compare him to jimmer, and i'm 100% sure he wont be a bust.
I just dont think you can keep burke, frank, and mudiay if you draft young, one has to be traded
