I think we got two low output players both mentally and physically. I'm not sure this is a direction.
I never really thought of Knox-- he has talent--6-9 215 played well in some games. Crappy defender fair rebounder for size not a great passer not a great ball handler average shooter. He's bit the size you like he's got some skill but this isn't anything more than a c pick. I don't like the 36 pick at all. We could've had Khyri Thomas for cheap and we passed? Thomas would've fit in better-- also more mature
I bet if we traded frank and 36 for huerter you would of given this draft a A+
Do your predictions get an F?
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Do your predictions get an F?
one good this is that the opposites of Briggs predictions always happen. So that makes me feel even happier about our draft
BRIGGS wrote:I think we got two low output players both mentally and physically. I'm not sure this is a direction.
I never really thought of Knox-- he has talent--6-9 215 played well in some games. Crappy defender fair rebounder for size not a great passer not a great ball handler average shooter. He's bit the size you like he's got some skill but this isn't anything more than a c pick. I don't like the 36 pick at all. We could've had Khyri Thomas for cheap and we passed? Thomas would've fit in better-- also more mature
I couldn't disagree more. I think considering you were willing to sell the farm for guys like Huerter and K Thomas, among others who went lower than you expected, you judgment on these players this year was considerably off from the consensus of NBA people. Knox is an excellent fit in this era of basketball as a stretch 4 (KP will move to full-time center eventually) and Robinson is a high-risk gamble but worth a flier in the 2nd round. I think this year in particular your judgment of players were very off to be honest. Nothing wrong with making predictions though, but keep them reasonable and in perspective.
These guys are both projects for sure. I think the 2nd rounder was an appropriate gamble. A for that one. I think our 1st rounder was a bit of a reach, if we were going for a gamble why not grab Porter?
C+/B- for me.
Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:I think we got two low output players both mentally and physically. I'm not sure this is a direction.
I never really thought of Knox-- he has talent--6-9 215 played well in some games. Crappy defender fair rebounder for size not a great passer not a great ball handler average shooter. He's bit the size you like he's got some skill but this isn't anything more than a c pick. I don't like the 36 pick at all. We could've had Khyri Thomas for cheap and we passed? Thomas would've fit in better-- also more mature
I couldn't disagree more. I think considering you were willing to sell the farm for guys like Huerter and K Thomas, among others who went lower than you expected, you judgment on these players this year was considerably off from the consensus of NBA people. Knox is an excellent fit in this era of basketball as a stretch 4 (KP will move to full-time center eventually) and Robinson is a high-risk gamble but worth a flier in the 2nd round. I think this year in particular your judgment of players were very off to be honest. Nothing wrong with making predictions though, but keep them reasonable and in perspective.
Guys I liked through the process Huerter Okogie Robinson all went way higher than anticipated--only Thomas was lower. Lets see how off I am.
I have to say that Briggs is right the early assessment is clearly C-. Knox looks like a scorer but has motor issues. Ok rebounder ok defensively. Absolutely doesn’t make others better very little passing ability. Suspect ball handling. Only thing to hang our hat on is that he is one of the youngest in the draft. Hopefully he is money motivated.
BRIGGS wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:I think we got two low output players both mentally and physically. I'm not sure this is a direction.
I never really thought of Knox-- he has talent--6-9 215 played well in some games. Crappy defender fair rebounder for size not a great passer not a great ball handler average shooter. He's bit the size you like he's got some skill but this isn't anything more than a c pick. I don't like the 36 pick at all. We could've had Khyri Thomas for cheap and we passed? Thomas would've fit in better-- also more mature
I couldn't disagree more. I think considering you were willing to sell the farm for guys like Huerter and K Thomas, among others who went lower than you expected, you judgment on these players this year was considerably off from the consensus of NBA people. Knox is an excellent fit in this era of basketball as a stretch 4 (KP will move to full-time center eventually) and Robinson is a high-risk gamble but worth a flier in the 2nd round. I think this year in particular your judgment of players were very off to be honest. Nothing wrong with making predictions though, but keep them reasonable and in perspective.
Guys I liked through the process Huerter Okogie Robinson all went way higher than anticipated--only Thomas was lower. Lets see how off I am.
come on man... you practically praised every player in the draft. You don't get to cherry pick the ones that went higher than expected... also, Huerter went as expected. I live 30 minutes from UMD and they have been talking about him going EXACTLY where he went for month or two now
The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Knox is the GOAT until further notice.
I recall some thinking that Miami got the "steal of the draft" when they picked up Winslow...others were saying we struck gold with Grant. I thought the 2015 draft class was pretty good, but when you look at the top 10, it is less than impressive. You and I both liked Kaminsky, who has been pretty pedestrian so far...you just don't know how players to turn out.
For the most part, you have to wait a few years to grade any team's draft...at least 3, especially when you are picking kids who are 18 and 19 years old.
I'm willing to wait and see.
I think Knox was a good pick. If we were a playoff team a guy like Mikal would have been a fine pick, since he could step into a rotation slot from day 1, but we drafted for the long game with Knox and Robinson.
Both guys also come into the league with chips on their respective shoulders. The Barclays' boos and Porter chants will inspire Knox, and Robinson will try to show that the early promise he showed was real, and that if he had played in college he would have been taken in the 1st round.
Have to be patient...snap grades are not the way to go...
CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise.
They had 2 future 2nd rnd picks( from the willy trade) they could have dangled to move up and try and get the franchise back on track sooner than later
knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise
this is why you are lost. Org doesnt need to be shook up. Its need a solid foundation. Building that is boring and takes time. Not trading picks for Rondo and Kemba Walker.
BRIGGS wrote:Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote:I think we got two low output players both mentally and physically. I'm not sure this is a direction.
I never really thought of Knox-- he has talent--6-9 215 played well in some games. Crappy defender fair rebounder for size not a great passer not a great ball handler average shooter. He's bit the size you like he's got some skill but this isn't anything more than a c pick. I don't like the 36 pick at all. We could've had Khyri Thomas for cheap and we passed? Thomas would've fit in better-- also more mature
I couldn't disagree more. I think considering you were willing to sell the farm for guys like Huerter and K Thomas, among others who went lower than you expected, you judgment on these players this year was considerably off from the consensus of NBA people. Knox is an excellent fit in this era of basketball as a stretch 4 (KP will move to full-time center eventually) and Robinson is a high-risk gamble but worth a flier in the 2nd round. I think this year in particular your judgment of players were very off to be honest. Nothing wrong with making predictions though, but keep them reasonable and in perspective.
Guys I liked through the process Huerter Okogie Robinson all went way higher than anticipated--only Thomas was lower. Lets see how off I am.
Briggs u took Huerter at 9 in the mock. And you say Knicks didn’t get value at 9? Huerter is a late 1st talent you wanted at 9 based on the draft game. Don’t say he went higher than expected.
knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise.
They had 2 future 2nd rnd picks( from the willy trade) they could have dangled to move up and try and get the franchise back on track sooner than later
If the organization played not to lose, Mikal Bridges would have been the pick @9. In your opinion, what would have been the sharp, on point, shrewd pick @ 9
fishmike wrote:knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise
this is why you are lost. Org doesnt need to be shook up. Its need a solid foundation. Building that is boring and takes time. Not trading picks for Rondo and Kemba Walker.
we have been rebuilding since 2013 wtf are you talking about..
Uptown wrote:knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise.
They had 2 future 2nd rnd picks( from the willy trade) they could have dangled to move up and try and get the franchise back on track sooner than later
If the organization played not to lose, Mikal Bridges would have been the pick @9. In your opinion, what would have been the sharp, on point, shrewd pick @ 9
I would have like to see a A+ grade on draft night
knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise.
They had 2 future 2nd rnd picks( from the willy trade) they could have dangled to move up and try and get the franchise back on track sooner than later
you have zero patience. Yes you want to win right this minute which isnt realistic. The two picks have higher ceilings but it will take some time
StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise.
They had 2 future 2nd rnd picks( from the willy trade) they could have dangled to move up and try and get the franchise back on track sooner than later
you have zero patience. Yes you want to win right this minute which isnt realistic. The two picks have higher ceilings but it will take some time
LMAO after five consecutive 50+ losing season that mills was directly associated with, and I have no patience..smdh
knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:The lowest grade I have seen so far is a B- The highest was a B+. Most sites graded the draft aB.
Briggs is Right
The front office as a whole gets a GRADE C..they just don't do enough to bring excitement, nothing they do is impressive, it's not bad either, but you won't be blown away, and...you won't be associating the words savviness, sharp, on point, smart, shrewd, slick to describe anything they do.
It's like they're playing not to lose instead of playing to win and destroy the competition, like they are scared to make a move to shake up the franchise.
They had 2 future 2nd rnd picks( from the willy trade) they could have dangled to move up and try and get the franchise back on track sooner than later
you have zero patience. Yes you want to win right this minute which isnt realistic. The two picks have higher ceilings but it will take some time
LMAO after five consecutive 50+ losing season that mills was directly associated with, and I have no patience..smdh
That's on you.
What players would you have drafted in the place of the players the Knicks picked?
