Not sure if we can get him on a one year deal but he would be a nice addition. Hybrid 3/4 player that would fit into our positionless movement. Also good high energy defender, with playoff experience who’s still only 24.
Out of all the options Green, Anthony Tolliver, grant. I’d pick Beasley over all of them he’s clearly the most talented and brings scoring fire power off the bench that none of those guys can.
I still don't understand how people that wanted ISO Melo gone asap now want to keep Beasley who's the same player. The ball stops every time he touches it cause he's gonna try to score every time it's in his hands and absolutely zero defense.
I also have Jerami Grant at the top of my list of players we can realistically afford and i would try to sign him to a multi year offer if it didn't get in the way of us having max space for a max player next off season, if we traded C.Lee then i think we could do this. Another player i'd like to see if we could get on a one year deal is D.Favors but he'll probably get a better offer then the one year 8+ mil we can offer him.
fitzfarm wrote:Out of all the options Green, Anthony Tolliver, grant. I’d pick Beasley over all of them he’s clearly the most talented and brings scoring fire power off the bench that none of those guys can.
I like the idea of adding Tolliver as a character guy. If we're moving Lee, we need to replace his veteran leadership, and Tolliver seems like a classy guy.
newyorker4ever wrote:I still don't understand how people that wanted ISO Melo gone asap now want to keep Beasley who's the same player. The ball stops every time he touches it cause he's gonna try to score every time it's in his hands and absolutely zero defense. I also have Jerami Grant at the top of my list of players we can realistically afford and i would try to sign him to a multi year offer if it didn't get in the way of us having max space for a max player next off season, if we traded C.Lee then i think we could do this. Another player i'd like to see if we could get on a one year deal is D.Favors but he'll probably get a better offer then the one year 8+ mil we can offer him.
Big difference between melo and Beasley, beasley is not the diva that melo is, yes he says things like he’s a walking bucket but he’s not a cancer like melo who refuses to come off the bench and laughs at fans when he picks up his option. Beasley in my opinion is a better all around player then melo at this point in there careers
Beasley has no problem coming off the bench, and being a offensive spark plug something every elite team needs off the bench. None of the players mentioned are the talent that Beasley is not even close . With that said I like grant but Beasley over grant all day every day. Beasley is a elite scorer, at times last year coming off the bench, Beasley took over games and single handedly won games for us.
Again none of the players mentioned can do what Beasley can do.
smackeddog wrote:fitzfarm wrote:Out of all the options Green, Anthony Tolliver, grant. I’d pick Beasley over all of them he’s clearly the most talented and brings scoring fire power off the bench that none of those guys can.
I like the idea of adding Tolliver as a character guy. If we're moving Lee, we need to replace his veteran leadership, and Tolliver seems like a classy guy.
I like Tolliver too, kinda a better version of Steve Novak.
Would he be willing to sign a one year deal?
newyorknewyork wrote:Would he be willing to sign a one year deal?
I think teams are going to offer him more tha that. Teams are aware of the cap situation OKC is in. If he is offered 10 mil per they probably cant match that. He is a great guy to target but if he takes the 8.6 mil(?) from a team like the Knicks I think he would want a multi year deal.
There is a good article on the slick sports site for the Thunder about their cap situation and different options they have, luxury tax, resigning PG, resigning Grant, stretching Melo etc. I will try to post the link. The Melo deal killed them.
Well, given OkC's fiscal woes, they'll need to be creative in rebuilding their wetware infrastructure.
They'd be smart doing a sign-and-trade of Jeremy Grant for some young, inexpensive pieces.
If they were dealing with the Knicks, maybe a resigned Grant and Ferguson for Burke, Dotson, and Hicks or Kornet. This assumes they're losing Grant anyway.
I do think Grant would make a great Knick - lots of goodness in his game.
CrushAlot wrote:Article on OKC's cap situation.
https://newsok.com/article/5599625/asses...
Horrific numbers, but those small market teams brought it on themselves, they wanted the ridiculous tax because they thought it would handicap big market teams- it blew up in their faces though and it serves them right.
Their owners are probably secretly hoping PG does go to the lakers
smackeddog wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Article on OKC's cap situation.
https://newsok.com/article/5599625/asses...
Horrific numbers, but those small market teams brought it on themselves, they wanted the ridiculous tax because they thought it would handicap big market teams- it blew up in their faces though and it serves them right.
Their owners are probably secretly hoping PG does go to the lakers
Yeah, what a horrible team. PG and Melo added nothing but expense. OKC needed to stick with their kids and instead fell into the trap of signing star-pucks who are little more than marketing bobble-heads. They need to rethink that entire team. Stretch Melo and send him to whatever fresh hell wants him then get some youngsters who will spend part of the season mucking-up and the rest maturing.
BTW, if the Lakers sacrifice their kids to sign the NBA's entitled bobbleheads, they too will suck.
I wouldn't mind Grant but I like Nerlens Noel more. He fits perfectly between KP and Knox. Gives you big rebounding, rim protection and the ability to guard the perimeter. The defensive difference that he makes is HUGE and that's where our biggest weakness is. He's only 24.
reub wrote:I wouldn't mind Grant but I like Nerlens Noel more. He fits perfectly between KP and Knox. Gives you big rebounding, rim protection and the ability to guard the perimeter. The defensive difference that he makes is HUGE and that's where our biggest weakness is. He's only 24.
I am hoping Robinson fills that role. Some strange and bad decisions had him fall to the Knicks at 36. He looked like a lottery level talent coming out of high school.
newyorker4ever wrote:I still don't understand how people that wanted ISO Melo gone asap now want to keep Beasley who's the same player. The ball stops every time he touches it cause he's gonna try to score every time it's in his hands and absolutely zero defense. I also have Jerami Grant at the top of my list of players we can realistically afford and i would try to sign him to a multi year offer if it didn't get in the way of us having max space for a max player next off season, if we traded C.Lee then i think we could do this. Another player i'd like to see if we could get on a one year deal is D.Favors but he'll probably get a better offer then the one year 8+ mil we can offer him.
If Melos only problem was ISOball...He wouldn't have this overrated tag hanging over his head.
ISO ball is the only thing that keeps melody in the league.
fitzfarm wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:I still don't understand how people that wanted ISO Melo gone asap now want to keep Beasley who's the same player. The ball stops every time he touches it cause he's gonna try to score every time it's in his hands and absolutely zero defense. I also have Jerami Grant at the top of my list of players we can realistically afford and i would try to sign him to a multi year offer if it didn't get in the way of us having max space for a max player next off season, if we traded C.Lee then i think we could do this. Another player i'd like to see if we could get on a one year deal is D.Favors but he'll probably get a better offer then the one year 8+ mil we can offer him.
Big difference between melo and Beasley, beasley is not the diva that melo is, yes he says things like he’s a walking bucket but he’s not a cancer like melo who refuses to come off the bench and laughs at fans when he picks up his option. Beasley in my opinion is a better all around player then melo at this point in there careers
Beasley has no problem coming off the bench, and being a offensive spark plug something every elite team needs off the bench. None of the players mentioned are the talent that Beasley is not even close . With that said I like grant but Beasley over grant all day every day. Beasley is a elite scorer, at times last year coming off the bench, Beasley took over games and single handedly won games for us.
Again none of the players mentioned can do what Beasley can do.
yada yada yada....Beasley is a selfish, ISO only, no defense player. We need guys that play both sides of the ball.
fwk00 wrote:Yeah, what a horrible team. PG and Melo added nothing but expense. OKC needed to stick with their kids and instead fell into the trap of signing star-pucks who are little more than marketing bobble-heads. They need to rethink that entire team. Stretch Melo and send him to whatever fresh hell wants him then get some youngsters who will spend part of the season mucking-up and the rest maturing.
Sep 29, 2017 - Westbrook signs massive extension
Sep 25, 2017 - OKC trades for Melo
Jul 6, 2017 - OKC trades for Paul George
One could argue Westbrook doesn't sign that extension without those two trades happening.
Same thing happened with Gary Payton, Kevin Garnett and Dwight Howard. In order to appease the "star player", stop gap moves were made that had no long term rebuilding value.
If RWB desperately wanted to win a championship in OKC, he would have signed for far less than the max, worked on being a true two way player and committed very early, allow the team to do a true organic rebuild via the draft.
Prior to that, the team strategy was to get RWB the MVP. By mean of trying to sell him as a modern Oscar Robinson, by selling out actual team ball to stat pad triple doubles.
Not every team is "cash rich" like the Knicks or Lakers. Attendance matters. Marketing matters.
RWB did his own fair share to make sure the OKC Thunder never realize their full potential in the 2nd half of his career. Watching Thunder players chuck it, beyond all reason, just to try to stat pad some assists for RWB was just plain pathetic. Defenders betraying fundamental basketball so RWB could grab some cheap rebounds was also tragic.
George staying in OKC. Grant is probably getting an offer they won't be able to match.
Thunder resigned Grant. Three years 27 mil.
Noel is a better fit for us than Grant was. We should sign him and Hezonja too.
