Knicks · KP said he is coming back soon (this season) (page 1)

Me happy

I don’t like the idea of him missing an entire season, so I hope he does play a little later this season

Come back, but don’t rush it. If it has to be in February or March, so be it. This isn’t a winning season anyway.

Come back enough to finish healthy. That’s open ended but my hope. Play well enough to wet Durants appetite but not enough to blow our lottery ambitions. All rebuilds have dark periods. Ours has lasted 18 years.

I just want him to come back long enough to get some rhythm back so next year he is good to go in october without any rust. 20-25 games is fine.

I am not thrilled. First he makes a big deal out of nothing with his instagram antics in response to Fiz's statement. Ok, i get it,he is young and arrogant. I just hope he doesnt rush back now to prove some stupid point. This is THE season to tank, hopefuly the LAST one in a long time. If we were making a playoff push or even in the playoffs i could see it. But the way things are there is no reason to rush. Fiz knows it, KP apparently not so much.

Somebody needs to explain "tank" in Latvian...

Will 20-25 games be bad enough to ensure we get to Zion land?

ramtour420 wrote:I am not thrilled. First he makes a big deal out of nothing with his instagram antics in response to Fiz's statement. Ok, i get it,he is young and arrogant. I just hope he doesnt rush back now to prove some stupid point. This is THE season to tank, hopefuly the LAST one in a long time. If we were making a playoff push or even in the playoffs i could see it. But the way things are there is no reason to rush. Fiz knows it, KP apparently not so much.

If it’s the last season to tank will be determined by who we draft. If we get a top 3 pick and get a Zion or Cam reddish then great.

If not, I don’t see franchise talents later in the lottery, where we usually end up.

Gudris wrote:Me happy

Just in time to take us out the Barrett/Williamsom sweepstakes. I suspect selfish reasons. I believe he is auditioning for other teams. He wants to prove he can play so he can force us to trade him. Its that or he can't see the big picture. If he truly wants to be in NY he should sit out. If he plays and we pick 10th the lack of talent he has around him will fall at his size 16 Adidas

Jmpasq wrote:

Gudris wrote:Me happy

Just in time to take us out the Barrett/Williamsom sweepstakes. I suspect selfish reasons. I believe he is auditioning for other teams. He wants to prove he can play so he can force us to trade him. Its that or he can't see the big picture. If he truly wants to be in NY he should sit out. If he plays and we pick 10th the lack of talent he has around him will fall at his size 16 Adidas

I thought you might take some wildly outlandish take and you did not disappoint me.

Here's one:

He's a basketball player and wants to play basketball.

Jmpasq wrote:

Gudris wrote:Me happy

Just in time to take us out the Barrett/Williamsom sweepstakes. I suspect selfish reasons. I believe he is auditioning for other teams. He wants to prove he can play so he can force us to trade him. Its that or he can't see the big picture. If he truly wants to be in NY he should sit out. If he plays and we pick 10th the lack of talent he has around him will fall at his size 16 Adidas

I think if the opportunity presented itself and he wanted out, no doubt playing well affords him better opportunities.
At the same time it affords us better value in return.
At the same time it affords him better negotiation leverage.
At the same time it demonstrates his return to form and we can match any offer or likely give him max money.
At the same time it helps his brand.
At the same time it lessons our dependence on a draft pick that at best might not be a franchise talent. Kwami Brown's and Anthony Bennetts do happen.
At the same time big time free agents might see a healthy unicorn as a good thing.
At the same time knick fans want to see a healthy unicorn.
If he gets hurt, maybe we cut bait? shyt happens. Rather do that then give him max THEN he gets hurt right away. Life is full of risks, KP wants to play. Is he Dice or is he a happy ending? Its Basketball.

JamesKPolk wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I am not thrilled. First he makes a big deal out of nothing with his instagram antics in response to Fiz's statement. Ok, i get it,he is young and arrogant. I just hope he doesnt rush back now to prove some stupid point. This is THE season to tank, hopefuly the LAST one in a long time. If we were making a playoff push or even in the playoffs i could see it. But the way things are there is no reason to rush. Fiz knows it, KP apparently not so much.

If it’s the last season to tank will be determined by who we draft. If we get a top 3 pick and get a Zion or Cam reddish then great.

If not, I don’t see franchise talents later in the lottery, where we usually end up.

Right now i'm more concerned with if K.Knox can become what we're hoping he'll become because what he becomes as a player will have a huge impact on this rebuild. By going off of what we've seen from Frank so far he isn't gonna become the type of player that the #8 pick in the draft should become and what we all hope and need him to become. Now i do understand that it's still very early to say what Frank will become in another 1-2-3 years from now but IMO it is not looking very good for him on the offensive side of the ball but again i realize it's still too early to know for sure.

Getting KP back for the last month of the season would be great for us when it comes to attracting any big name free agents but so does the development of Frank, Knox and our other young players. If KP does come back to play at any time this year then we just need to be very careful with him and how many minutes he plays and how aggressive he plays when he is on the court.

jrodmc wrote:Somebody needs to explain "tank" in Latvian...

Will 20-25 games be bad enough to ensure we get to Zion land?

I think he realizes that if the Knicks top 2 in the draft, they may be drafting his replacement

Swishfm3 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Somebody needs to explain "tank" in Latvian...

Will 20-25 games be bad enough to ensure we get to Zion land?

I think he realizes that if the Knicks top 2 in the draft, they may be drafting his replacement

I don’t think there’s porzingis level talent in this draft.

Nalod wrote:Come back enough to finish healthy. That’s open ended but my hope. Play well enough to wet Durants appetite but not enough to blow our lottery ambitions. All rebuilds have dark periods. Ours has lasted 18 years.

Agree on all this except the 18 years. We didn't undertake a legit rebuild until MUCH more recently than that. Impatience has always held sway. Thankfully, those days are over.

Moonangie wrote:

Nalod wrote:Come back enough to finish healthy. That’s open ended but my hope. Play well enough to wet Durants appetite but not enough to blow our lottery ambitions. All rebuilds have dark periods. Ours has lasted 18 years.

Agree on all this except the 18 years. We didn't undertake a legit rebuild until MUCH more recently than that. Impatience has always held sway. Thankfully, those days are over.

Layden was on the cusp of having his picks and cap space too at the end of his reign. I don't want to rehash all that transpired but garden was dead and Dolan panicked. Your right, this is the full rebuild many of us have been clamoring for. Problem is we didn't have assets in place like Boston did when they jettisoned KG and PP to grab even more picks and future assets. Philly was so bad the league stepped in to promote them to move up the process some.
On paper rebuilds are nice but they are interminable!

Knixkik wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Somebody needs to explain "tank" in Latvian...

Will 20-25 games be bad enough to ensure we get to Zion land?

I think he realizes that if the Knicks top 2 in the draft, they may be drafting his replacement

I don’t think there’s porzingis level talent in this draft.

Porzingas is a unique player, no doubt, but the jury is still out on him....at least, I think so and this ACL injury doesn't make me feel any better.

Did you see the Duke Vs. Kentucky game?? Williamson and Barrett looked legit man (and reddish wasn't bad neither).

Swishfm3 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Somebody needs to explain "tank" in Latvian...

Will 20-25 games be bad enough to ensure we get to Zion land?

I think he realizes that if the Knicks top 2 in the draft, they may be drafting his replacement

I don’t think there’s porzingis level talent in this draft.

Porzingas is a unique player, no doubt, but the jury is still out on him....at least, I think so and this ACL injury doesn't make me feel any better.

Did you see the Duke Vs. Kentucky game?? Williamson and Barrett looked legit man (and reddish wasn't bad neither).

No doubt they look great. I think all will be awesome , I just don’t see franchise player talent. Porzingis has that but injury risks are there of course. We will have to wait and see.

Knixkik wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Somebody needs to explain "tank" in Latvian...

Will 20-25 games be bad enough to ensure we get to Zion land?

I think he realizes that if the Knicks top 2 in the draft, they may be drafting his replacement

I don’t think there’s porzingis level talent in this draft.

Have you seen Zion play?

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Gudris wrote:Me happy

Just in time to take us out the Barrett/Williamsom sweepstakes. I suspect selfish reasons. I believe he is auditioning for other teams. He wants to prove he can play so he can force us to trade him. Its that or he can't see the big picture. If he truly wants to be in NY he should sit out. If he plays and we pick 10th the lack of talent he has around him will fall at his size 16 Adidas

I thought you might take some wildly outlandish take and you did not disappoint me.

Here's one:

He's a basketball player and wants to play basketball.

Yeah, its possible but I'm going to go with my tin foil hat conspiracy theory

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Gudris wrote:Me happy

Just in time to take us out the Barrett/Williamsom sweepstakes. I suspect selfish reasons. I believe he is auditioning for other teams. He wants to prove he can play so he can force us to trade him. Its that or he can't see the big picture. If he truly wants to be in NY he should sit out. If he plays and we pick 10th the lack of talent he has around him will fall at his size 16 Adidas

I thought you might take some wildly outlandish take and you did not disappoint me.

Here's one:

He's a basketball player and wants to play basketball.

Yeah, its possible but I'm going to go with my tin foil hat conspiracy theory

He would be locked into an extension right now if the Knicks offered. Which would then put the Knicks in complete control of his career until he had about 1 year left. If the Knicks had ANY type of fear of KP desiring another location. They would have locked him up already in order to have that control and piece of mind.