Scott Perry, you should contact Philly and offer them Lee, Frank for Fulyz and an expiring contract. i have a feeling, things are about to go south in Philly for Fultz.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25331596/markelle-fultz-philadelphia-76ers-see-shoulder-specialist
No way would I trade Frank for Fultz. Not sure if you have seen him play but his shot looks like Charles Barkley's golf swing. UGLY!
Fultz also isn't going to play now, his agent wants him to see a shoulder specialist. Not even the team is asking this, his agent is. Strange!
I'd have to think about it if we get rid of Lee for an expiring. Would that help us get an additional max guy?
The way frank is playing, he will be out of the league in a few years. He has not improved at all this year. He shows no initiative to score. he brings the ball up the court, passes it off and disappears on offense (95%) of the plays. He is a good on the ball defender, but once the defender comes at him fast, he does not have the quickness to defend.
BigDaddyG wrote:I'd have to think about it if we get rid of Lee for an expiring. Would that help us get an additional max guy?
Also, do they trade him to a team in the east? They already traded Tatum and a pick to the Celtics. That deal could haunt them for a decade.
Fultz is soft.
He would never survive in NY.
Frank is better than Fultz. He has a role in the league at least. Fultz really has nothing to offer right now.
nyk2017 wrote:Scott Perry, you should contact Philly and offer them Lee, Frank for Fulyz and an expiring contract. i have a feeling, things are about to go south in Philly for Fultz.http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25331596/markelle-fultz-philadelphia-76ers-see-shoulder-specialist
If Philly offers that trade ( they won't) then the Knicks should take it.
Zero reason to trade Fultz now. He's still on a rookie cost controlled deal and his ceiling is still very high. The early returns are pretty ugly though. That Tatum is doing so well is not helping matters from a perception standpoint.
On the angle that this becomes a legal matter ( i.e. duty of care with the 76ers medical staff and front office ), even if Philly was in the wrong, the league won't let it go much further. By extension, any implication that the 76ers were negligent would infer the league administration itself was also negligent in oversight. The slippery slope from it would not be good for the league.
If Fultz is traded, he'll go West. Some rumors I've heard is that the 76ers and Suns are in some preliminary discussions.
Please equate Fultz to a chick?
Or an ugly divorcee with a speech impediment on Facebook?
I don't get the Fultz logic at all -- something not right with the kid, he's got Chuck Knoblach throwing to first base issues.
I'd rather trade for a guy who is hurt but expected to return healthy
And I don't want to trade Frank. That guy continues to be a force on defense. Last night was exhibit A in how effective he was in disrupting Lillard's shots. It's akin to KP patrolling the paint. the opponent just has to play differently than it would otherwise
It's just reported he's seeing a shoulder specialist and will be out for who knows how long. I dont really want to include Frank in a trade for this mess right now.
Chandler wrote:I don't get the Fultz logic at all -- something not right with the kid, he's got Chuck Knoblach throwing to first base issues.I'd rather trade for a guy who is hurt but expected to return healthy
And I don't want to trade Frank. That guy continues to be a force on defense. Last night was exhibit A in how effective he was in disrupting Lillard's shots. It's akin to KP patrolling the paint. the opponent just has to play differently than it would otherwise
The isn't any logic.
nykshaknbake wrote:It's just reported he's seeing a shoulder specialist and will be out for who knows how long. I dont really want to include Frank in a trade for this mess right now.
Yeah but then I heard that he attended a voluntary shoot around with the team yesterday after it was reported he was going to stay away. I think his agent wants to get him right and maybe save his reputation.
meloshouldgo wrote:Chandler wrote:I don't get the Fultz logic at all -- something not right with the kid, he's got Chuck Knoblach throwing to first base issues.I'd rather trade for a guy who is hurt but expected to return healthy
And I don't want to trade Frank. That guy continues to be a force on defense. Last night was exhibit A in how effective he was in disrupting Lillard's shots. It's akin to KP patrolling the paint. the opponent just has to play differently than it would otherwise
The isn't any logic.
The logic is how to combine young players development and used-to-be bust evaluation with tanking and look innocent in the process...
So far so good...
arkrud wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Chandler wrote:I don't get the Fultz logic at all -- something not right with the kid, he's got Chuck Knoblach throwing to first base issues.I'd rather trade for a guy who is hurt but expected to return healthy
And I don't want to trade Frank. That guy continues to be a force on defense. Last night was exhibit A in how effective he was in disrupting Lillard's shots. It's akin to KP patrolling the paint. the opponent just has to play differently than it would otherwise
The isn't any logic.
The logic is how to combine young players development and used-to-be bust evaluation with tanking and look innocent in the process...
So far so good...
dude the entire NBA and the most casual fan can see that we have no real interest in winning games, in the process of that, our young players look like trash most nights(which is why we are losing so consistently). Noah, burke, and mudiay have look decent after 4 seasons in the NBA, and a final chance at redemption.
Evaluation is all Mills knows how to do.
Think kyrie, and KD or any top FA is looking at the knicks rookies like, like MAAAAN i would love to play with them
knicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Chandler wrote:I don't get the Fultz logic at all -- something not right with the kid, he's got Chuck Knoblach throwing to first base issues.I'd rather trade for a guy who is hurt but expected to return healthy
And I don't want to trade Frank. That guy continues to be a force on defense. Last night was exhibit A in how effective he was in disrupting Lillard's shots. It's akin to KP patrolling the paint. the opponent just has to play differently than it would otherwise
The isn't any logic.
The logic is how to combine young players development and used-to-be bust evaluation with tanking and look innocent in the process...
So far so good...
dude the entire NBA and the most casual fan can see that we have no real interest in winning games, in the process of that, our young players look like trash most nights(which is why we are losing so consistently). Noah, burke, and mudiay have look decent after 4 seasons in the NBA, and a final chance at redemption.
Evaluation is all Mills knows how to do.
Think kyrie, and KD or any top FA is looking at the knicks rookies like, like MAAAAN i would love to play with them
Its his job. He is on the clock. You get to be all kinds of genius in retrospect. Your not on the clock.
"Redemption"? From what? They didn't fall from grace because in the NBA they never reached it.
knicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Chandler wrote:I don't get the Fultz logic at all -- something not right with the kid, he's got Chuck Knoblach throwing to first base issues.I'd rather trade for a guy who is hurt but expected to return healthy
And I don't want to trade Frank. That guy continues to be a force on defense. Last night was exhibit A in how effective he was in disrupting Lillard's shots. It's akin to KP patrolling the paint. the opponent just has to play differently than it would otherwise
The isn't any logic.
The logic is how to combine young players development and used-to-be bust evaluation with tanking and look innocent in the process...
So far so good...
dude the entire NBA and the most casual fan can see that we have no real interest in winning games, in the process of that, our young players look like trash most nights(which is why we are losing so consistently). Noah, burke, and mudiay have look decent after 4 seasons in the NBA, and a final chance at redemption.
Evaluation is all Mills knows how to do.
Think kyrie, and KD or any top FA is looking at the knicks rookies like, like MAAAAN i would love to play with them
You really need to adjust your expectations here. We have young players like Robinson and Trier who look exceptional. Most would argue we got the best value out of that entire draft with Robinson, Trier, and Knox. Development is the key of course, but there is some young talent here that no one expected we have. This draft could be the turning point. Bring KP back into the mix and we are good. You just have to live with the losing, this is what rebuilding is. I really don't know what else you expect here.
Knixkik wrote:knicks1248 wrote:arkrud wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Chandler wrote:I don't get the Fultz logic at all -- something not right with the kid, he's got Chuck Knoblach throwing to first base issues.I'd rather trade for a guy who is hurt but expected to return healthy
And I don't want to trade Frank. That guy continues to be a force on defense. Last night was exhibit A in how effective he was in disrupting Lillard's shots. It's akin to KP patrolling the paint. the opponent just has to play differently than it would otherwise
The isn't any logic.
The logic is how to combine young players development and used-to-be bust evaluation with tanking and look innocent in the process...
So far so good...
dude the entire NBA and the most casual fan can see that we have no real interest in winning games, in the process of that, our young players look like trash most nights(which is why we are losing so consistently). Noah, burke, and mudiay have look decent after 4 seasons in the NBA, and a final chance at redemption.
Evaluation is all Mills knows how to do.
Think kyrie, and KD or any top FA is looking at the knicks rookies like, like MAAAAN i would love to play with them
You really need to adjust your expectations here. We have young players like Robinson and Trier who look exceptional. Most would argue we got the best value out of that entire draft with Robinson, Trier, and Knox. Development is the key of course, but there is some young talent here that no one expected we have. This draft could be the turning point. Bring KP back into the mix and we are good. You just have to live with the losing, this is what rebuilding is. I really don't know what else you expect here.
I agree w a lot of this. Knox needs to get going some time soon and will be key. We got super value with Mitch and Trier
Having said all of that, I wouldn't touch a Fultz trade and certainly not one involving Frank
Knox has a way to go still. No need to panic just yet. Not even close.
Trier is a value, but to what degree? MoneyMitch is about what I expected.
Frank's shoulders are bothering him. Not me so much as RainMan1248. Whats his breakout two games the new norm or this injured version?
If I see one more person calling to get Fultz, I am quitting this board. Collecting other teams outcasts is just going to give us a collection of outcasts. Ask a humble version of Isiah Thomas how that worked. He’s not that good and is a bust. You’re going to bail Philly out and offer them ThAT much?
Ugh, hopefully the Knicks aren’t reading and agreeing with the OP.
