fishmike wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Jarrett Culver is sucking bad. After having a 5 of 19 game recently, he's now 0 for 6 in the first half. No thanks, do not need another THJr shooting clone
his last two games were REALLY disappointing on offense. Still a great defensive player but Hunter really established himself as a tier above Culver IMO
I get the hype. We love NCAA hype. He'll be vetted out. measured, weighted and worked out.
Same for Reddish, Barret, Langford, Morant.
That Virginia team was big, could shoot, played defense and are the champs!!!
Reddish had some big shots, defense and rebounds in the season. Zions shadow blocked out the sun.
Time will tell. We'll have no worse than 5th. Someone will make a mistake, hope its not us!!!
fishmike wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Jarrett Culver is sucking bad. After having a 5 of 19 game recently, he's now 0 for 6 in the first half. No thanks, do not need another THJr shooting clone
his last two games were REALLY disappointing on offense. Still a great defensive player but Hunter really established himself as a tier above Culver IMO
Yeah. I don’t watch much college ball before the tournament. I have been hearing guys rave about Cukver but he did not have a good tournament. I have to think his stock dropped a bit.
CrushAlot wrote:fishmike wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Jarrett Culver is sucking bad. After having a 5 of 19 game recently, he's now 0 for 6 in the first half. No thanks, do not need another THJr shooting clone
his last two games were REALLY disappointing on offense. Still a great defensive player but Hunter really established himself as a tier above Culver IMO
Yeah. I don’t watch much college ball before the tournament. I have been hearing guys rave about Cukver but he did not have a good tournament. I have to think his stock dropped a bit.
no, I thought Culver had a good tournament but just sort of lousy at the end. Culver was a 3* recruit. He struggled against athletes. I do not want to crush Culver but I would never draft him unless he fell to the second, which I don't think has a chance in hell of happening
Nalod wrote:fishmike wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Jarrett Culver is sucking bad. After having a 5 of 19 game recently, he's now 0 for 6 in the first half. No thanks, do not need another THJr shooting clone
his last two games were REALLY disappointing on offense. Still a great defensive player but Hunter really established himself as a tier above Culver IMO
I get the hype. We love NCAA hype. He'll be vetted out. measured, weighted and worked out.
Same for Reddish, Barret, Langford, Morant.
That Virginia team was big, could shoot, played defense and are the champs!!!
Reddish had some big shots, defense and rebounds in the season. Zions shadow blocked out the sun.
Time will tell. We'll have no worse than 5th. Someone will make a mistake, hope its not us!!!
There will be be more shuffling up to the draft.
Nalod wrote:fishmike wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Jarrett Culver is sucking bad. After having a 5 of 19 game recently, he's now 0 for 6 in the first half. No thanks, do not need another THJr shooting clone
his last two games were REALLY disappointing on offense. Still a great defensive player but Hunter really established himself as a tier above Culver IMO
I get the hype. We love NCAA hype. He'll be vetted out. measured, weighted and worked out.
Same for Reddish, Barret, Langford, Morant.
That Virginia team was big, could shoot, played defense and are the champs!!!
Reddish had some big shots, defense and rebounds in the season. Zions shadow blocked out the sun.
Time will tell. We'll have no worse than 5th. Someone will make a mistake, hope its not us!!!
If the Knicks draft Reddish at 5, I’ll have trust in their decision but that would still be a super scary pick to make.
Apparently Reddish was courtside at the Lakers game the other night, with Rich Paul. I’m honestly kind of hoping Reddish, for his own sake, refrains from signing any agent and stays another season at Duke. His game needs A LOT of fine tuning.
Allanfan20 wrote:Apparently Reddish was courtside at the Lakers game the other night, with Rich Paul. I’m honestly kind of hoping Reddish, for his own sake, refrains from signing any agent and stays another season at Duke. His game needs A LOT of fine tuning.
look at it from his prospective: fine tuning for a year (with a decent chance at slipping or getting hurt or getting really exposed) or guaranteed millions over 3+ years. Frank has been painfully awful over the past year and still will net ~$12M over his first 3 years.
I am sure he would fine tune his bank account just like the rest of us
martin wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Apparently Reddish was courtside at the Lakers game the other night, with Rich Paul. I’m honestly kind of hoping Reddish, for his own sake, refrains from signing any agent and stays another season at Duke. His game needs A LOT of fine tuning.
look at it from his prospective: fine tuning for a year (with a decent chance at slipping or getting hurt or getting really exposed) or guaranteed millions over 3+ years. Frank has been painfully awful over the past year and still will net ~$12M over his first 3 years.
I am sure he would fine tune his bank account just like the rest of us
I'm with you... if I could have got that type of paid internship I woulda dropped out of college ASAP
SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Apparently Reddish was courtside at the Lakers game the other night, with Rich Paul. I’m honestly kind of hoping Reddish, for his own sake, refrains from signing any agent and stays another season at Duke. His game needs A LOT of fine tuning.
look at it from his prospective: fine tuning for a year (with a decent chance at slipping or getting hurt or getting really exposed) or guaranteed millions over 3+ years. Frank has been painfully awful over the past year and still will net ~$12M over his first 3 years.
I am sure he would fine tune his bank account just like the rest of us
I'm with you... if I could have got that type of paid internship I woulda dropped out of college ASAP
I get that part but if he scares NBA teams the way he scares some of us, then do you think it’s possible he ends up slipping to the second round the way Carlos Boozer did? That seems unlikely but still possible. He takes the risk of entering the draft this year possibly slipping to a pretty low position and losing a lot of money. Or he stays at Duke, has a chance to become the man for a season, with a more seasoned Tre Jones by his side, and raise his stock.
Slipping and falling and getting hurt is always a risk.
Allanfan20 wrote:Apparently Reddish was courtside at the Lakers game the other night, with Rich Paul. I’m honestly kind of hoping Reddish, for his own sake, refrains from signing any agent and stays another season at Duke. His game needs A LOT of fine tuning.
There's no chance he stays at Duke and he shouldn't. He's a terrible draft prospect and if the Knicks draft him I'll be fucking livid but the combination of his HS hype and this being a terrible draft means he's going to get picked top 10 or even top 5. If he goes back to school and has another season like this past one his draft stock is going to fucking tank.
VCoug wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Apparently Reddish was courtside at the Lakers game the other night, with Rich Paul. I’m honestly kind of hoping Reddish, for his own sake, refrains from signing any agent and stays another season at Duke. His game needs A LOT of fine tuning.
There's no chance he stays at Duke and he shouldn't. He's a terrible draft prospect and if the Knicks draft him I'll be fucking livid but the combination of his HS hype and this being a terrible draft means he's going to get picked top 10 or even top 5. If he goes back to school and has another season like this past one his draft stock is going to fucking tank.
Think Reddish represents most of the class this year. Guys that just don't have anything special yet some see "blind potential. I am hoping they trade the pick. Other than Zion amd Barrett, dont see anyone worth a top 5 pick. And if anyone thinks we are getting the top pick with just 14% chance, they dont know the Knicks.
HofstraBBall wrote:VCoug wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Apparently Reddish was courtside at the Lakers game the other night, with Rich Paul. I’m honestly kind of hoping Reddish, for his own sake, refrains from signing any agent and stays another season at Duke. His game needs A LOT of fine tuning.
There's no chance he stays at Duke and he shouldn't. He's a terrible draft prospect and if the Knicks draft him I'll be fucking livid but the combination of his HS hype and this being a terrible draft means he's going to get picked top 10 or even top 5. If he goes back to school and has another season like this past one his draft stock is going to fucking tank.
Think Reddish represents most of the class this year. Guys that just don't have anything special yet some see "blind potential. I am hoping they trade the pick. Other than Zion amd Barrett, dont see anyone worth a top 5 pick. And if anyone thinks we are getting the top pick with just 14% chance, they dont know the Knicks.
Trading the pick is tough because you just don't know what free agency brings. I'd say yes to a trade that stabilizes the roster for two max players but the draft comes before free agency. Zion is a no brainer. After that it gets more thought provoking. There are cap considerations too. Move Frank frees up 5 mil but for what? Not if you bring back salary.
The pick and frank could yield a nice player of starting quality but how does it get done unless you know for sure who's coming.
Anyone have any proposals than the open concept of "Nobody interests me but it will interest another team to make a deal"?
Crazy that the Celtics could have 4 first round picks in this draft
martin wrote:
Is he even allowed to?
It's over, but how can you rationally explain this. We are one of the biggest markets in the league and we finish with the worse record...can't believe it. Something has got to change.
ccch wrote:It's over, but how can you rationally explain this. We are one of the biggest markets in the league and we finish with the worse record...can't believe it. Something has got to change.
The team is rebuilding. The rational explanation is that the team was horribly mismanaged by a former player and hof coach for three plus years. Seven first round picks over the next five years, cap room for 2 max players and one of the youngest teams in the nba to me means this is not the same old Knicks. This offseason is going to be huge for Perry/Mills. If they don’t land the Ks I think they use the cap space to take on bad contracts and acquire assets. Maybe they sign some high character vets like DEAndre to one year deals.
The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.
martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.
I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.
smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.
I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.
I would like to see the mindset of a true "process", not letting a roll of the dice -- or bounce of a ping pong ball -- affect a solid rebuilding vision that isn't tailored to the bipolar fan base or media piranhas. Unlikely I know, but I just can't have my happiness -- even just as a Knick fan -- be contingent on getting Zion or Morant. Especially since we most likely won't.
KnickDanger wrote:smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.
I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.
I would like to see the mindset of a true "process", not letting a roll of the dice -- or bounce of a ping pong ball -- affect a solid rebuilding vision that isn't tailored to the bipolar fan base or media piranhas. Unlikely I know, but I just can't have my happiness -- even just as a Knick fan -- be contingent on getting Zion or Morant. Especially since we most likely won't.
I think that part of the true process is what scouting to get Mitch and Zo was. I think part of the true process is acquiring assets like 7 first round picks in 5 years. Having assets and tremendous cap flexibility is a part of the process. I think committing to a rebuild, having the youngest team in the league and ending up with a chance at a franchise cornerstone player in the lottery is a part of the process. Having the worst record to guarantee a top 5 pick is a part of the process that has been happening. This isn't the same old Knicks.
