Knicks · Kanter vs Spy (page 1)

Panos wrote:If Kanter had gone to London and been assassinated, would the Knicks have been awarded a trade exception?

Wow!!

Panos wrote:If Kanter had gone to London and been assassinated, would the Knicks have been awarded a trade exception?

Panos wrote:If Kanter had gone to London and been assassinated, would the Knicks have been awarded a trade exception?

Cartman718 wrote:

Panos wrote:If Kanter had gone to London and been assassinated, would the Knicks have been awarded a trade exception?

dude...wow...bad taste.

Brother, relax. If he had been assassinated, then yes, bad taste.
As he has not yet been, in fact, assassinated, its just a joke. Chill.

Panos wrote:If Kanter had gone to London and been assassinated, would the Knicks have been awarded a trade exception?

It would not be a trade exception. It would fall under the wider umbrella of the Disabled Player Exception. Which is far more extensive in the actual CBA compared to the brief summary from Larry Coon. This was also expanded when the Chris Bosh Rule was negotiated in the last CBA.

IIRC, if this not in an offseason, if the player has played in more than 10 games, it's a proration of his contract for the current season. That proration is weighed against the Non Tax MLE and the lesser is the amount you can apply for, but the Chris Bosh Rule requires a set of league approved physicians to rubber stamp either the injury or death. While the Knicks have their own medical staff, the league needs it's own separated from any franchise for transparency and to be seen as objective. A death on non US/non Canadian soil starts to make this very complicated.

Since pro sporting events are seen as high profile target zones, this now becomes an issue for DHS and MI5. And it's a headline grabber so now it impacts the international basketball community and eventually the IOC. Professional sports are informally understood to be a neutral zone for other political matters. Since it would be on London soil, you've actually crossed into total fucking James Bond territory. As MI5 only deals with domestic issues. Outside of home soil, it's MI6. Likely supported by the SAS as an operational wing. Shit like this has an impact on international business, investment in said country, tourism and it's role in the international sports community ( There's big money in hosting certain events and you won't get them if you can't keep visiting athletes safe) So in turn, someone would need to get hit hard as fallout. This would be a total fuckup of epic proportions.

If something happens to Kanter and there is a body, the Knicks would have to wait for NBA league doctors to actually verify that Kanter is dead up close. They might have to wait a long ass time depending on what DHS and MI5 decides to do about it.

If something happens to Kanter and there is no body, the Knicks would be stuck. There's nothing to verify. But any team would be stuck in this situation. Sadly this would be the far more likely scenario in a tree of unlikely overall scenarios.

IF a team gets the exception, they can spread it out. The Knicks could sign 2-3 players if they wanted as long as it does not exceed the max aggregate value of the exception for that season.

If any of this actually happened, you couldn't get Hollywood to write a movie more totally fucked up than this scenario. People fucking dying left and right over Enes Kanter.

Well, let's hope it never happens to the NBA, Kanter or anyone in the pro sports community.

Panos wrote:If Kanter had gone to London and been assassinated, would the Knicks have been awarded a trade exception?

Think we get two assassinated future 2nd rounders.

But seriously, you actually had that thought?

Puts shit in perspective. Guy has to deal with real life shit outside the simple game of basketall.

Nalod wrote:Opens a bigger question about guaranteed contracts, plantation owner mentality, key man life insurance, and franchise insured contracts and quicker rebuilds for teams.
But I’m not going there!

The "Cash Hit" of any cap equation will tend to curb this kind of potential behavior.

Let's say John Wall gets into an "accident"

Insurance will only pay out a certain portion, not the total amount. The rough numbers I've seen are somewhere to about 40 percent or so. The franchise might be cap absolved ( by the next season) but are liable for the cash hit that insurance doesn't cover ( this goes to the players estate) . Once cap space clears, the expectation is the team will spend it again on something. While the cap hit equalizes, the cash hit can turn into what amounts to a 60 cents per dollar tax on the life of the payout.

The argument then becomes does the functional "death tax" form less of a financial hit than a team deep in the tax zone or repeater tax zone? Cap clearance might bring a team under the apron if it was above it before.

More complicated is it is informally understood that the death of a max/supermax player would trigger an audit of the owner/ownership group of said franchise by the league's internal security. They have forensic analysts/forensic accountants on retainer and on full time staff. One things the owners do not want is anyone taking a deep dive into their books as a whole.

Insurance "CAN" pay up to a certain amount, it is still a matter for negotiation. The league "CAN" give you cap relief, but it is still a matter for review. A team owner going after his own albatross contract player is not a guarantee. The cash hit problem creates another issue.

Has an NBA player ever had to worry? Yes, but for other reasons. Informally Monta Ellis, Jason Richardson and Tony Parker. Don't mess with the owner's woman. Don't mess with another players wife. Don't get another player's wife pregnant. In this regard, Jalen Rose was right but am surprised he touched the issue in public. Gambling problems and women problems. That will incite some deep dive shit but just cap clearance is generally not one of them. In every major change to the CBA, a "one time" amnesty is always discussed.

In general, if an owner wanted to divest of a player with a huge contract, it would be easier to set up the player in a major scandal then appeal to void the contract based on violation of the "morality clause" in every NBA players contract. This is league PR issue more than anything. What I'm saying is I was John Wall, I'd be more concerned about someone planting something on my laptop or in the trunk of my car or in my house than anything.

Nalod wrote:That Enes gets under Erdogan skin is amazing.

Not really, it's easy to get under the skin of insecure bullies that live for constant admiration and ego worship. We have some really good examples closer to home.

meloshouldgo wrote:

Nalod wrote:That Enes gets under Erdogan skin is amazing.

Not really, it's easy to get under the skin of insecure bullies that live for constant admiration and ego worship. We have some really good examples closer to home.

If you talking about Trump he does not have even a fraction of power in USA Endoran has in Turkey.
With one word Endoran can make thousands of people in Turkey vanish, 10th of thousands thrown in jail, tortured, and many killed.
And he will rule until he will be dead or overthrown by military which is always a possibility in this country.
However our days because of the backing of Muslim Brotherhood in Turkey and internationally the coup is very unlikely.
Since Atatürk death this country is sliding back into Middle Ages of religious dictatorship pretty fast.

meloshouldgo wrote:

Nalod wrote:That Enes gets under Erdogan skin is amazing.

Not really, it's easy to get under the skin of insecure bullies that live for constant admiration and ego worship. We have some really good examples closer to home.