Knicks · Fishy Business- what do you think really happened with KD? (page 1)

Doesn’t matter. It looks like the Knicks are drawing up the offer papers.

KD was relatively-OK til he tried to make a move off the dribble. He should've only been used as a decoy and floor spacer, take 10-12 threes. Hope you hit 4 or 5 of them.

But after a brief rest where they iced his previously loose and warmed up muscles he came back and tried to DO TOO MUCH.

Now even if he doesn't get hurt on that attempted dribble drive to the basket --- i figure Toronto would test him defensively and he would get hurt trying to guard his man OR get repeatedly TORCHED.

GS basically had one shot to use him. Should never have rested him then brought him back. They got just enough to survive. GS got everything out of Kevin that they could. Squeeaed out every dollar worth.

KD got his rings.

You deal with the devil KD.... you always pay the price at the end.

Sambakick wrote:KD was relatively-OK til he tried to make a move off the dribble. He should've only been used as a decoy and floor spacer, take 10-12 threes. Hope you hit 4 or 5 of them.

But after a brief rest where they iced his previously loose and warmed up muscles he came back and tried to DO TOO MUCH.

Now even if he doesn't get hurt on that attempted dribble drive to the basket --- i figure Toronto would test him defensively and he would get hurt trying to guard his man OR get repeatedly TORCHED.

GS basically had one shot to use him. Should never have rested him then brought him back. They got just enough to survive. GS got everything out of Kevin that they could. Squeeaed out every dollar worth.

KD got his rings.

You deal with the devil KD.... you always pay the price at the end.

From every angle you see this situation, Golden State really stinks.

You have a player coming from an injury that took him out for a month. He hasn't had a real practice with the team. Suddenly he can come back and you are already playing with fire. Coach Kerr says he will play him sporadically, as a player returning from an injury should. And that is if he has the injury they said he had, the calf, and not the one most believed judging from his reaction to the injury, the Achilles.

What did Kerr actually do? Play Durant 12 of the first 14 minutes and not even adapt his game plan to his injured player, but playing him exactly like if he was healthy.

The result is known by all.

This was a terrible situation that had so many points that could've avoided all of this.

I dont see the point of this thread....calf strain or Achilles. They are separate injuries but the same muscle area....one needs the other. If one is weak. the other gets weaker.

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What really happened to KD?

He spends too much time on his social media accounts...listening to every negative thing said about him.

He did a terrible job surrounding himself with Kawhi type personalities who dont give a damn about the organization or social media back lash.

Aren't we awaiting a full prognosis? But let's draw our conclusions now!

Sambakick wrote:KD was relatively-OK til he tried to make a move off the dribble. He should've only been used as a decoy and floor spacer, take 10-12 threes. Hope you hit 4 or 5 of them.

But after a brief rest where they iced his previously loose and warmed up muscles he came back and tried to DO TOO MUCH.

Now even if he doesn't get hurt on that attempted dribble drive to the basket --- i figure Toronto would test him defensively and he would get hurt trying to guard his man OR get repeatedly TORCHED.

GS basically had one shot to use him. Should never have rested him then brought him back. They got just enough to survive. GS got everything out of Kevin that they could. Squeeaed out every dollar worth.

KD got his rings.

You deal with the devil KD.... you always pay the price at the end.

If he's only healthy enough to be used as a decoy, then he shouldn't be playing!! Basketball is a game you play on instincts, and KD is more than a spot up shooter. He saw an angle to go the hoop, and made a move he's done thousands of times and it popped! Bottom line, he shouldn't have been out there, regardless of who made the final decision.

blkexec wrote:I dont see the point of this thread....calf strain or Achilles. They are separate injuries but the same muscle area....one needs the other. If one is weak. the other gets weaker.

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That’s the point- you know that so why didn’t the warriors and their medical staff?!

The situation is a matter of today's NBA. With player empowerment, the player gets to make the final decision. If Kevin Durant doesn't think he can go, Golden State doesn't medically clear him. I think Durant knew the risks and took a shot at playing anyway (which I think is the right move in the finals). The result is unfortunate, but I can be okay with the decision making process, especially from a team that needs to sign him again.

Teams hide injuries all the time in the NBA. There aren't reporting requirements so there's no incentive for Golden State to rule him out.

KD is an athlete and he has competitive juices going through him. He is set for life and he still has a opt in. He should have played. In his position even I would have played and everyone on this board would have played. Those that say they wouldn’t have are lying. Everyone can play this 20/20 game. It’s the finals you play for championships not for the money. If anything I have so much more respect for KD at this point than any other point of time.

Don’t BS yourselves into think he shouldn’t have played.

Vmart wrote:KD is an athlete and he has competitive juices going through him. He is set for life and he still has a opt in. He should have played. In his position even I would have played and everyone on this board would have played. Those that say they wouldn’t have are lying. Everyone can play this 20/20 game. It’s the finals you play for championships not for the money. If anything I have so much more respect for KD at this point than any other point of time.

Don’t BS yourselves into think he shouldn’t have played.

What a load of crap- you argued before the injury he should play and I, and other posters said he shouldn’t because it wasn’t worth the risk. Because he took that risk, he played 12mins and now will miss tomorrow’s game and the one after that and all the regular season and playoff games next year, and will be diminished the rest of his career. Why was this years playoff run more important than the next 4 or 5 years of playoff runs?

smackeddog wrote:

Vmart wrote:KD is an athlete and he has competitive juices going through him. He is set for life and he still has a opt in. He should have played. In his position even I would have played and everyone on this board would have played. Those that say they wouldn’t have are lying. Everyone can play this 20/20 game. It’s the finals you play for championships not for the money. If anything I have so much more respect for KD at this point than any other point of time.

Don’t BS yourselves into think he shouldn’t have played.

What a load of crap- you argued before the injury he should play and I, and other posters said he shouldn’t because it wasn’t worth the risk. Because he took that risk, he played 12mins and now will miss tomorrow’s game and the one after that and all the regular season and playoff games next year, and will be diminished the rest of his career. Why was this years playoff run more important than the next 4 or 5 years of playoff runs?

Your thinking about money. I’ll argue it again and again. KD is a millionaire 150 times over. Look at you guys acting like a crime was committed. You probably don’t know this but KD has his own doctors evaluations along with GS’s doctors. But hey keep painting your narrative.

Long time reader and 1st time poster. I can't help but wonder if GS would have allowed him to return if he gave assurances that he'd opt in for next year. So my mind thinks that GS said, "F it, he may not be here anyway so what if he gets hurt". KD's fault in this is that he makes millions per year, spend some of that cash on a private 2nd opinion before returning

That's the only thing that makes sense. KD and the Warriors knew the initial injury was the achilles (micro tears or whatever), and the Warriors hushed it up to protect his free agency market, so KD went along with it.

so much revisionist history going on

everyone assumed from the outside it was an achiles injury when he first got hurt

the risk of making it worse and causing a full rupture was clear as day

warriors should not have let him play, even if he insisted

anrst wrote:so much revisionist history going on

everyone assumed from the outside it was an achiles injury when he first got hurt

the risk of making it worse and causing a full rupture was clear as day

warriors should not have let him play, even if he insisted

It's not revisionist history, i was posting all this as it was happening. When Martin posted KD was playing I said "good luck with that"

smackeddog wrote:

anrst wrote:so much revisionist history going on

everyone assumed from the outside it was an achiles injury when he first got hurt

the risk of making it worse and causing a full rupture was clear as day

warriors should not have let him play, even if he insisted

It's not revisionist history, i was posting all this as it was happening. When Martin posted KD was playing I said "good luck with that"

i meant revisionist history in various parts of the media. i like the OP

not to go too far off topic but it makes me respect Kawhi's intelligence all the more

He had a sense his quad was whacked in SA and didn't like the pressure etc he was getting from team. It's still affecting him but if he played more in SA with the injury (which seems to be what SA wanted) he could have suffered an analogous fate.

I suspect it was a very gray issue like a strain and they all took a calculated risk with his returning and it was as simple as that. Looked like a good move until he went down

smackeddog wrote:

That's the only thing that makes sense. KD and the Warriors knew the initial injury was the achilles (micro tears or whatever), and the Warriors hushed it up to protect his free agency market, so KD went along with it.

I've always believed it was an achilles injury...Called this a cover-up from jump...Something never felt right with this injury. I'm shocked that Kerr said he was shocked that KD ruptured his achilles. I damn sure wasn't shocked and I'm sure there were a bunch of other people who are not doctors that weren't shocked either.

Listen to Cris Carter....

Uptown wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

That's the only thing that makes sense. KD and the Warriors knew the initial injury was the achilles (micro tears or whatever), and the Warriors hushed it up to protect his free agency market, so KD went along with it.

I've always believed it was an achilles injury...Called this a cover-up from jump...Something never felt right with this injury. I'm shocked that Kerr said he was shocked that KD ruptured his achilles. I damn sure wasn't shocked and I'm sure there were a bunch of other people who are not doctors that weren't shocked either.

it was the least shocking most expected thing that could have happened, and it happened

first thought when i saw him in warmups was 'holy sht he's gonna blow his achilles'