Knicks · Your starting 5 next year!!! (page 5)

knicks1248 @ 6/26/2019 11:04 AM
Sangfroid wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:The only guy that NY should NOT sign more than Melo is Cousins. Low IQ player. Not the right fit. Signing him wouold be a disaster.

I am ok with this if Kawhii and or KD are out of the picture.

DSjr
RJ
Knox
Vonleh
Mitch
Frank
Trier
Dotson
Kornet
Iggy
Allen
1 Biannual exmption PF type.

fill roster with rookie FA's - vet min guys


Keep the space to absorb bad contracts and picks during the year. You know there will be come of those available.

Get another lottery pick or 2 next June and keep building a team that will win for years!

you must want ppl to get fired..that's a 10 win roster, with at least 2 20 game losing streaks

Not if the coach, coaches. At minimum, we would surpass our 17 win total. We were in several games last year where we were leading in the 4th quarter, and Fiz let it slip away by letting cold shooters continue shooting, or not taking out a player who was getting torched. Bring in Morris from Boston as that needed PF. Let's get this show on the road!

Whatever system fiz was trying to run, he clearly didn't have the type of players he could do it with, and he is not experience enough to make the adjustment. Giving him a very similar roster is going to get similar results..

Like i said, if they can't at least put a 42 win roster together with the flexibility they currently have, IMO...that's a high level of incompetence from a FO.

Marv @ 6/26/2019 11:08 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:The only guy that NY should NOT sign more than Melo is Cousins. Low IQ player. Not the right fit. Signing him wouold be a disaster.

I am ok with this if Kawhii and or KD are out of the picture.

DSjr
RJ
Knox
Vonleh
Mitch
Frank
Trier
Dotson
Kornet
Iggy
Allen
1 Biannual exmption PF type.

fill roster with rookie FA's - vet min guys


Keep the space to absorb bad contracts and picks during the year. You know there will be come of those available.

Get another lottery pick or 2 next June and keep building a team that will win for years!

you must want ppl to get fired..that's a 10 win roster, with at least 2 20 game losing streaks

Not if the coach, coaches. At minimum, we would surpass our 17 win total. We were in several games last year where we were leading in the 4th quarter, and Fiz let it slip away by letting cold shooters continue shooting, or not taking out a player who was getting torched. Bring in Morris from Boston as that needed PF. Let's get this show on the road!

Whatever system fiz was trying to run, he clearly didn't have the type of players he could do it with, and he is not experience enough to make the adjustment. Giving him a very similar roster is going to get similar results..

Like i said, if they can't at least put a 42 win roster together with the flexibility they currently have, IMO...that's a high level of incompetence from a FO.

pretty hard to judge a coach when he clearly had a mandate to go after the #1 draft pick.

knicks1248 @ 6/26/2019 11:16 AM
Marv wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:brogdon- 3yr contract
barret
jimmy butler-3 yrs
randle- 4 yr contract
Cousins- 1+1

dsj
trier
dotson/Brazdeikis
knox
mitch

those are the type of vets you put around your barret

0% chance Butler accepts a 3 year deal, especially at this point of his career. It’s either full max or go to hell for him.

plus how are you ever going to get brogdon, butler, randle and cousins for $74M.

and i'm SURE this was an oversight but you forgot frank.....

you see what I'm saying

Marv @ 6/26/2019 11:32 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Marv wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:brogdon- 3yr contract
barret
jimmy butler-3 yrs
randle- 4 yr contract
Cousins- 1+1

dsj
trier
dotson/Brazdeikis
knox
mitch

those are the type of vets you put around your barret

0% chance Butler accepts a 3 year deal, especially at this point of his career. It’s either full max or go to hell for him.

plus how are you ever going to get brogdon, butler, randle and cousins for $74M.

and i'm SURE this was an oversight but you forgot frank.....

you see what I'm saying

no. my question was:

Marv wrote: how are you ever going to get brogdon, butler, randle and cousins for $74M.
knicks1248 @ 6/26/2019 12:43 PM
Marv wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Marv wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:brogdon- 3yr contract
barret
jimmy butler-3 yrs
randle- 4 yr contract
Cousins- 1+1

dsj
trier
dotson/Brazdeikis
knox
mitch

those are the type of vets you put around your barret

0% chance Butler accepts a 3 year deal, especially at this point of his career. It’s either full max or go to hell for him.

plus how are you ever going to get brogdon, butler, randle and cousins for $74M.

and i'm SURE this was an oversight but you forgot frank.....

you see what I'm saying

no. my question was:

Marv wrote: how are you ever going to get brogdon, butler, randle and cousins for $74M.

I doubt we can get all 4, unless some takes a serious pay cut, but i think we can do 3 out of the 4

Nalod @ 6/26/2019 12:57 PM
Boogie for one year? 25mm? Pass on Brogdon. He is 26 and will want a fair wage. Butler can get max money. We should not.
Randle 2 years at 20mm each. Inflation a bitch. still 35mm for Kawhi. Not a champion mix BTW. But fun and could make noise.
Im not in Kawhi's head and I put the odds low at best. But that's a potential "stab".

Kawhi
Randle
Boogie
Smith
JR Barret

Im looking multi year I get cap flex each of the next two years and my Rookies are ripening to play or trade. Either way assets are rising.
Im not a big boogie fan but I liked his effort on the Warriors. If it blends you can always sign him long term. But he will get paid more than what Warriors did.

GoNyGoNyGo @ 6/26/2019 1:05 PM
Nalod wrote:Boogie for one year? 25mm? Pass on Brogdon. He is 26 and will want a fair wage. Butler can get max money. We should not.
Randle 2 years at 20mm each. Inflation a bitch. still 35mm for Kawhi. Not a champion mix BTW. But fun and could make noise.
Im not in Kawhi's head and I put the odds low at best. But that's a potential "stab".

Kawhi
Randle
Boogie
Smith
JR Barret

Im looking multi year I get cap flex each of the next two years and my Rookies are ripening to play or trade. Either way assets are rising.
Im not a big boogie fan but I liked his effort on the Warriors. If it blends you can always sign him long term. But he will get paid more than what Warriors did.

How about Kawhii, Randle and re-sign DJ? Defense wins and DJ is a better defender and rebounder than Cousins.

DSj/Frank/Allen
RJ/Dotson/Trier
Kawhii/Iggy
Randle/Knox
DJ/MItch?luke

Knixkik @ 6/26/2019 1:29 PM
I'm still going with one of my original guesses.

C Robinson
PF Marcus Morris
SF Knox
SG Barrett
PG Smith

Bench Rotation: Elfrid Payton, Trier, Dotson, Vonleh, Markieff Morris
Deep Bench: Allen, Jenkins, Lance, Brazdeikis, Kornet
IR: Maybe or Maybe not KD

GoNyGoNyGo @ 7/2/2019 9:16 AM
post FA update:

Payton
RJ
Knox
Randle
Portis

DSJ/allen/rookie FA
Ellington/Trier
Bullock/Iggy
Gibson
Robinson/rookie FA

I now think that Frank will be traded during camp for a pick. I am against this but the writing is on the wall for Frank. He best be unreal in camp to stay in NY. Dotson will likely be gone too.

Allen and a few of the Rookie FA's wll round out the team.

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