Knicks are so low even with yoot its a better future than in decline with Melo.
Nets so bad nobody noticed even when they improved. They might have room to sign some talent and be even better.
Knox, Smith, Barrett and Mitch are solid blue chip pedigree. Trier, Braz, and Frank might be nice pieces. We have cap space, we have all our picks and 2 from Dallas. We have opportunity!!
Knicks and Nets have not been rivals for years because neither has played important games. If Nets get Irving and Durant good for them. Hope they do well, and ironic if knicks build thru youth vs the starphuch! Eventually knicks will make some trades/FA's and we have a nice long rivalry. One beating the snot out the other is not fun. Knicks destroying nets is not fun. Good games with meaning is fun. Must see!!!
Think how much fun it will be when Knicks beat Nets in the eastern conf finals!
Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
CrushAlot wrote:Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
Especially with Kyrie in a Nets uniform
Infant state...
Has a lot of growing to do.
Sangfroid wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
Especially with Kyrie in a Nets uniform
But before that he could be the evil villain.
Nalod wrote:Sangfroid wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
Especially with Kyrie in a Nets uniform
But before that he could be the evil villain.
I never really thought he was an evil villain. Maybe a piss poor leader and bad teammate who is going to get his f’ing ars booed the next time he plays in Boston... but not a complete 100% douchebag who could be hated around the league.
Maybe that makes more sense in my head than it does to every one else. Lol
Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Sangfroid wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
Especially with Kyrie in a Nets uniform
But before that he could be the evil villain.
I never really thought he was an evil villain. Maybe a piss poor leader and bad teammate who is going to get his f’ing ars booed the next time he plays in Boston... but not a complete 100% douchebag who could be hated around the league.
Maybe that makes more sense in my head than it does to every one else. Lol
Evil villains are smart a..ss brats. Kyrie just selfish and stupid at times.
So no hate here... man need some humanity.
"I do research on both sides," Irving said. "I'm not against anyone that thinks the Earth is round. I'm not against anyone that thinks it's flat."
Marv wrote:"I do research on both sides," Irving said. "I'm not against anyone that thinks the Earth is round. I'm not against anyone that thinks it's flat."
Maybe that’s why he had trouble in Boston. They were all a bunch of round earthers that chose not to do the research. What a bunch of D-Nozzles.
Nalod wrote:Knicks are so low even with yoot its a better future than in decline with Melo.
Nets so bad nobody noticed even when they improved. They might have room to sign some talent and be even better.
Knox, Smith, Barrett and Mitch are solid blue chip pedigree. Trier, Braz, and Frank might be nice pieces. We have cap space, we have all our picks and 2 from Dallas. We have opportunity!!Knicks and Nets have not been rivals for years because neither has played important games. If Nets get Irving and Durant good for them. Hope they do well, and ironic if knicks build thru youth vs the starphuch! Eventually knicks will make some trades/FA's and we have a nice long rivalry. One beating the snot out the other is not fun. Knicks destroying nets is not fun. Good games with meaning is fun. Must see!!!
Think how much fun it will be when Knicks beat Nets in the eastern conf finals!
I hate to rain on your parade, but i figured if we had blue chip youth we would have had enough to trade for AD..Obviously we dont know what Barret will do, but he seems like a solid player coming in
In one sentence you said the knicks shouldn't starpuch, and your very next words are.. "they will eventually make trades..well who will they be trading for. role players or STARS-Phuchs.
And as far as FA, If your not good, your not attractive, that's why the NETS seem to be getting more attn
Knicks finally have opportunity which is great. Nets have a smart front office and seems like players want to go there. I don't ever see a rivalry though because ultimately the Nets are still basically a small market team operating in a small corner of the Knicks giant market. They were a good, fun team last year with the worst attendance in the league. Adding Kyrie and/or KD probably pulls a small percentage of bandwagon fans in NY, but still a small chunk in the grand scheme of things. Knicks are competing in a different world as the Nets. When you think about top tier NBA franchises, you think of Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, Sixers, Celtics, Warriors and maybe a couple others. Those are the teams the media and league really focus on. Nothing the Nets do will ever break them into that category or shift the focus away from any of the top tier franchises.
knicks1248 wrote:Nalod wrote:Knicks are so low even with yoot its a better future than in decline with Melo.
Nets so bad nobody noticed even when they improved. They might have room to sign some talent and be even better.
Knox, Smith, Barrett and Mitch are solid blue chip pedigree. Trier, Braz, and Frank might be nice pieces. We have cap space, we have all our picks and 2 from Dallas. We have opportunity!!Knicks and Nets have not been rivals for years because neither has played important games. If Nets get Irving and Durant good for them. Hope they do well, and ironic if knicks build thru youth vs the starphuch! Eventually knicks will make some trades/FA's and we have a nice long rivalry. One beating the snot out the other is not fun. Knicks destroying nets is not fun. Good games with meaning is fun. Must see!!!
Think how much fun it will be when Knicks beat Nets in the eastern conf finals!
I hate to rain on your parade, but i figured if we had blue chip youth we would have had enough to trade for AD..Obviously we dont know what Barret will do, but he seems like a solid player coming in
In one sentence you said the knicks shouldn't starpuch, and your very next words are.. "they will eventually make trades..well who will they be trading for. role players or STARS-Phuchs.
And as far as FA, If your not good, your not attractive, that's why the NETS seem to be getting more attn
The Knicks were the ones who passed on Davis (Thank God). We know how you don't value draft picks/youth but it would of been a terrible trade for us just like all those types of trades we have done in the past. Trading all of our assets for a great but very injury prone player wouldn't help us put in free agency because they would of had no players to surround them with.
Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Sangfroid wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
Especially with Kyrie in a Nets uniform
But before that he could be the evil villain.
I never really thought he was an evil villain. Maybe a piss poor leader and bad teammate who is going to get his f’ing ars booed the next time he plays in Boston... but not a complete 100% douchebag who could be hated around the league.
Maybe that makes more sense in my head than it does to every one else. Lol
Tim Hardaway Sr. He could kill us at time. Trashed talked and delivered pain. "EVIL"! Reggie Miller. Knick killer. "EVIL"......
nets are kind of better than us.
Good rivals need characters. KI would be a good "villain".
NY has good youth. RJ may make it great. RJ, DSj, Mitch, Knox, Trier, Iggy, Frank, Dotson is a good young core who will grow together and if they put the work in, they should be good together. How good? To be Determined.
An influx of KD, EVEN INJURED this year, will help alot! He can be a huge confidence builder for Knox especially but all the younger guys. That will speed up their development.
Kawhii would have the same effect.
I still KD wants the KNicks. The NETS are 2nd city. IMO, there is no way he goes there.
CrushAlot wrote:Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
This. All day long. The world as it's supposed to be.
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:NY has good youth. RJ may make it great. RJ, DSj, Mitch, Knox, Trier, Iggy, Frank, Dotson is a good young core who will grow together and if they put the work in, they should be good together. How good? To be Determined. An influx of KD, EVEN INJURED this year, will help alot! He can be a huge confidence builder for Knox especially but all the younger guys. That will speed up their development.
Kawhii would have the same effect.
I still KD wants the KNicks. The NETS are 2nd city. IMO, there is no way he goes there.
I keep wondering myself, how can KD possibly want to go to BK? And why would Kleiman allow it? He's so focused on his brand and what people think of him. Any success in NY does more for him than anything he can do with BK. And joining Kyrie in BK would lend to the narrative that he was influenced and followed Kyrie there. I thought the focus for KD was to become his own man and build his own NBA identity. NY is literally there for the taking. Any success there puts him on a different level. While playing in BK would mean being a villain in his own city. It literally would make no sense, other than him just wanting to play with Kyrie no matter what the scenario.
knicks1248 wrote:Nalod wrote:Knicks are so low even with yoot its a better future than in decline with Melo.
Nets so bad nobody noticed even when they improved. They might have room to sign some talent and be even better.
Knox, Smith, Barrett and Mitch are solid blue chip pedigree. Trier, Braz, and Frank might be nice pieces. We have cap space, we have all our picks and 2 from Dallas. We have opportunity!!Knicks and Nets have not been rivals for years because neither has played important games. If Nets get Irving and Durant good for them. Hope they do well, and ironic if knicks build thru youth vs the starphuch! Eventually knicks will make some trades/FA's and we have a nice long rivalry. One beating the snot out the other is not fun. Knicks destroying nets is not fun. Good games with meaning is fun. Must see!!!
Think how much fun it will be when Knicks beat Nets in the eastern conf finals!
I hate to rain on your parade, but i figured if we had blue chip youth we would have had enough to trade for AD..Obviously we dont know what Barret will do, but he seems like a solid player coming in
In one sentence you said the knicks shouldn't starpuch, and your very next words are.. "they will eventually make trades..well who will they be trading for. role players or STARS-Phuchs.
And as far as FA, If your not good, your not attractive, that's why the NETS seem to be getting more attn
Not every trade is one or the other.
Rainman "Rain" on my parade? No chance. You couldn't find it.
Knixkik wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:NY has good youth. RJ may make it great. RJ, DSj, Mitch, Knox, Trier, Iggy, Frank, Dotson is a good young core who will grow together and if they put the work in, they should be good together. How good? To be Determined. An influx of KD, EVEN INJURED this year, will help alot! He can be a huge confidence builder for Knox especially but all the younger guys. That will speed up their development.
Kawhii would have the same effect.
I still KD wants the KNicks. The NETS are 2nd city. IMO, there is no way he goes there.
I keep wondering myself, how can KD possibly want to go to BK? And why would Kleiman allow it? He's so focused on his brand and what people think of him. Any success in NY does more for him than anything he can do with BK. And joining Kyrie in BK would lend to the narrative that he was influenced and followed Kyrie there. I thought the focus for KD was to become his own man and build his own NBA identity. NY is literally there for the taking. Any success there puts him on a different level. While playing in BK would mean being a villain in his own city. It literally would make no sense, other than him just wanting to play with Kyrie no matter what the scenario.
Well said!
You are so right - KD was destroyed for going to an already great team like GS. If he "follows" Kyrie, what then? HE will have lost most of the NYC fans. Winning in Brooklyn would mean zilch for his BRAND. Winning in NY, Hell - Getting the KNICKS back into contention - would make his BRAND go boom!
I would think the Nets are a smoke screen even for Kyrie - but the Nets GM is good and their success has made them more attractive. I just so do not get why BK would dump DLo for Kyrie and risk their team chemistry? Adding Harris and other front court help would be far better for the team then exchanging Kyrie for DLo - even if KD comes in 2020/21
Nalod wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Sangfroid wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Knicks destroying the Nets would be a lot of fun.
Especially with Kyrie in a Nets uniform
But before that he could be the evil villain.
I never really thought he was an evil villain. Maybe a piss poor leader and bad teammate who is going to get his f’ing ars booed the next time he plays in Boston... but not a complete 100% douchebag who could be hated around the league.
Maybe that makes more sense in my head than it does to every one else. Lol
Tim Hardaway Sr. He could kill us at time. Trashed talked and delivered pain. "EVIL"! Reggie Miller. Knick killer. "EVIL"......
nets are kind of better than us.
Good rivals need characters. KI would be a good "villain".
Meh. Doesn’t do it for me so far. The Miami Heat with LeBron were far better villians.
Im not advocating for KD to go there. But if he does then it might be worth understanding. He wants to be in NY.
Knicks in fact might not want him now he is hurt.
But lets just say everything is equal. And lets pretend to have some objectivity:
My take is there is an blank canvas in Brooklyn. A team with a great arena but no identity. Yet. Respectable team, good young coach, a GM with a long vision and its taking shape. But void of character. Yet. They can be his.
Both can be his. All things being equal are not this reality. The delicious irony is what if Brooklyn Nets win a championship before the Knicks? Not with some no name team like they had this past year, but two bonafide "stars"....>Durant and KI! My fear is not that they do this, my fear is what dolan will do in response. He jumped over walsh to get melo so he could c*ckblock the Nets from getting him. Dolan was and still might be scared of the Nets. Not the glamor or status, its the freaking Cable money! The reason why Knicks are valuable is the league has a cap on spending but not on Cable money!!! Players don't get any of that chedder. There is a pie. Nets want a bigger slice.
Many of you doubt nets this because "its the NETS" and what was, what is, will always be...."
Not sure it works out that way.
Again,, so if you cant fathom this, so be it, but if those two sign with BKN, they and their agents believe there is something is of value.
Not sure what that is, but they will have their reasons.
