Can't get excited about this
I am sure he will contribute something but what happened to the idea of smart players who play D -- I usually dont hear Julius being associated with either
The Knicks have shifted wisely and are now looking
for DEPTH signings to round out their top 10.
Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Uptown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Terrible contract. Can't wait to stretch him to sign "Fill in blank here"
It's only 3 years....he's 24 years old...i like it...Dude is a bulldog!
He is a frontcourt player that provides no outside shooting or rim protection. Do you guys want to win or lose a ton of games watching double doubles. Didnt you just watch Kanter do the same thing?
What front court player did you have in mind that the Knicks could have signed instead?
Now that its a 2 year deal i'm on board but depending on money and length of the deal Portis. At 2 years with a team option this turns into a good signing because there is no downside. 3 years your hurting flexibility.
So what you are saying is that everyone should wait to get all details before reaching a conclusion?
CleaverGreene wrote:I like the pickup...but this is still a funny GIF and tweet.
For all the bullying we are getting and are gonna keep getting, this is funny and very true for a big part of the fan base.
jskinny35 wrote:We finally got ZION (minus the hops says Kanter)!!
Actually I said that b4 Kanter....
Zion is a better shot blocker with bounce.....but in the NBA, that will lead to more fouls, I would bet Randle has a better year....maybe 2....over zions 1st 2 years.
Excellent signing (especially with the 3rd yr option) He will play the 4/5 as a nice compliment to Mitch
It’s really hard to hate this deal. Most will because of the Nets deals but this is very solid!
Good signing. Of course these media morons are being sarcastic but he is a good guy to put next to Mitch and he is out after 2 years
martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Uptown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Terrible contract. Can't wait to stretch him to sign "Fill in blank here"
It's only 3 years....he's 24 years old...i like it...Dude is a bulldog!
He is a frontcourt player that provides no outside shooting or rim protection. Do you guys want to win or lose a ton of games watching double doubles. Didnt you just watch Kanter do the same thing?
What front court player did you have in mind that the Knicks could have signed instead?
Now that its a 2 year deal i'm on board but depending on money and length of the deal Portis. At 2 years with a team option this turns into a good signing because there is no downside. 3 years your hurting flexibility.
So what you are saying is that everyone should wait to get all details before reaching a conclusion?
No Im saying I don't know what the Knicks were offering Portis. Portis at 12 vs Randle at 21, Portis. Portis at 17, Randle at 21 , you take Randle. I don't know what their agents were looking for. Had this been a 3 year deal no matter what its a bad move. You can't kill flexibility for a clearly flawed player. We did that with Tim Hardaway jr. we can't do that again.
Chandler wrote:Can't get excited about thisI am sure he will contribute something but what happened to the idea of smart players who play D -- I usually dont hear Julius being associated with either
I like the pickup, but this is clearly something to consider, and he is not a shot blocker.
Knox
Barrett
Smith
Randle
Mitch is going to be fouling out a lot this year trying to cover up for the defensive deficiencies of his teammates.
That’s a good price. They have room to offer 2 more 5 year max contracts or if they move Ntlikina, they can offer a 5 year max (25%) and a 7 year max. Clearly the coup would be to land Russell on a 5 year max (in LA) and then Kawhi on a 7 year max. I can dream, but the math would work. A DJ sign and trade with the Nets would likely make it even easier.
Panos wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Panos wrote:Now let's get a shooter
Klay is still around.
Make it so!
I mean Klay with a bad knee is so much better than Durant with an Achilles in Dolan’s eyes too!
Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Uptown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Terrible contract. Can't wait to stretch him to sign "Fill in blank here"
It's only 3 years....he's 24 years old...i like it...Dude is a bulldog!
He is a frontcourt player that provides no outside shooting or rim protection. Do you guys want to win or lose a ton of games watching double doubles. Didnt you just watch Kanter do the same thing?
What front court player did you have in mind that the Knicks could have signed instead?
Now that its a 2 year deal i'm on board but depending on money and length of the deal Portis. At 2 years with a team option this turns into a good signing because there is no downside. 3 years your hurting flexibility.
So what you are saying is that everyone should wait to get all details before reaching a conclusion?
No Im saying I don't know what the Knicks were offering Portis. Portis at 12 vs Randle at 21, Portis. Portis at 17, Randle at 21 , you take Randle. I don't know what their agents were looking for. Had this been a 3 year deal no matter what its a bad move. You can't kill flexibility for a clearly flawed player. We did that with Tim Hardaway jr. we can't do that again.
He shot 34.4% from 3 and 33.3% from 16ft-3pt range last year. This is in comparison to Brook Lopez, a stretch big who receives acclaim, who shot 36.5% from 3 and 31.3% from 16ft-3pt range.
Randle is a very good offensive player with a true shooting percentage exceeding 60% over the past 2 years. His PER is 21, which ties him for No. 36 in the entire league.
Getting him for a 2 year deal, and leveraging a small amount of cash/year to execute a 3rd year team option for a 25 year old player with the above production is a clear home run, far be it something to complain about.
There are 2 major aspects to the free agency process - recruiting and negotiation. The latter is frequently underrated because the top guys all get max contracts. In my opinion, achieving a deal like this reflects much better on the Knicks management team than lucking into Durant or Leonard.
I don't hate it. But he'll have to learn to play d before I like it.
codeunknown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Uptown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Terrible contract. Can't wait to stretch him to sign "Fill in blank here"
It's only 3 years....he's 24 years old...i like it...Dude is a bulldog!
He is a frontcourt player that provides no outside shooting or rim protection. Do you guys want to win or lose a ton of games watching double doubles. Didnt you just watch Kanter do the same thing?
What front court player did you have in mind that the Knicks could have signed instead?
Now that its a 2 year deal i'm on board but depending on money and length of the deal Portis. At 2 years with a team option this turns into a good signing because there is no downside. 3 years your hurting flexibility.
So what you are saying is that everyone should wait to get all details before reaching a conclusion?
No Im saying I don't know what the Knicks were offering Portis. Portis at 12 vs Randle at 21, Portis. Portis at 17, Randle at 21 , you take Randle. I don't know what their agents were looking for. Had this been a 3 year deal no matter what its a bad move. You can't kill flexibility for a clearly flawed player. We did that with Tim Hardaway jr. we can't do that again.
He shot 34.4% from 3 and 33.3% from 16ft-3pt range last year. This is in comparison to Brook Lopez, a stretch big who receives acclaim, who shot 36.5% from 3 and 31.3% from 16ft-3pt range.
Randle is a very good offensive player with a true shooting percentage exceeding 60% over the past 2 years. His PER is 21, which ties him for No. 36 in the entire league.
Getting him for a 2 year deal, and leveraging a small amount of cash/year to execute a 3rd year team option for a 25 year old player with the above production is a clear home run, far be it something to complain about.
There are 2 major aspects to the free agency process - recruiting and negotiation. The latter is frequently underrated because the top guys all get max contracts. In my opinion, achieving a deal like this reflects much better on the Knicks management team than lucking into Durant or Leonard.
Basic stats from BB Reference.
CleaverGreene wrote:codeunknown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Uptown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Terrible contract. Can't wait to stretch him to sign "Fill in blank here"
It's only 3 years....he's 24 years old...i like it...Dude is a bulldog!
He is a frontcourt player that provides no outside shooting or rim protection. Do you guys want to win or lose a ton of games watching double doubles. Didnt you just watch Kanter do the same thing?
What front court player did you have in mind that the Knicks could have signed instead?
Now that its a 2 year deal i'm on board but depending on money and length of the deal Portis. At 2 years with a team option this turns into a good signing because there is no downside. 3 years your hurting flexibility.
So what you are saying is that everyone should wait to get all details before reaching a conclusion?
No Im saying I don't know what the Knicks were offering Portis. Portis at 12 vs Randle at 21, Portis. Portis at 17, Randle at 21 , you take Randle. I don't know what their agents were looking for. Had this been a 3 year deal no matter what its a bad move. You can't kill flexibility for a clearly flawed player. We did that with Tim Hardaway jr. we can't do that again.
He shot 34.4% from 3 and 33.3% from 16ft-3pt range last year. This is in comparison to Brook Lopez, a stretch big who receives acclaim, who shot 36.5% from 3 and 31.3% from 16ft-3pt range.
Randle is a very good offensive player with a true shooting percentage exceeding 60% over the past 2 years. His PER is 21, which ties him for No. 36 in the entire league.
Getting him for a 2 year deal, and leveraging a small amount of cash/year to execute a 3rd year team option for a 25 year old player with the above production is a clear home run, far be it something to complain about.
There are 2 major aspects to the free agency process - recruiting and negotiation. The latter is frequently underrated because the top guys all get max contracts. In my opinion, achieving a deal like this reflects much better on the Knicks management team than lucking into Durant or Leonard.
Basic stats from BB Reference.
What is the insight you yielded from these totals rather than averages?
codeunknown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:martin wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Uptown wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Terrible contract. Can't wait to stretch him to sign "Fill in blank here"
It's only 3 years....he's 24 years old...i like it...Dude is a bulldog!
He is a frontcourt player that provides no outside shooting or rim protection. Do you guys want to win or lose a ton of games watching double doubles. Didnt you just watch Kanter do the same thing?
What front court player did you have in mind that the Knicks could have signed instead?
Now that its a 2 year deal i'm on board but depending on money and length of the deal Portis. At 2 years with a team option this turns into a good signing because there is no downside. 3 years your hurting flexibility.
So what you are saying is that everyone should wait to get all details before reaching a conclusion?
No Im saying I don't know what the Knicks were offering Portis. Portis at 12 vs Randle at 21, Portis. Portis at 17, Randle at 21 , you take Randle. I don't know what their agents were looking for. Had this been a 3 year deal no matter what its a bad move. You can't kill flexibility for a clearly flawed player. We did that with Tim Hardaway jr. we can't do that again.
He shot 34.4% from 3 and 33.3% from 16ft-3pt range last year. This is in comparison to Brook Lopez, a stretch big who receives acclaim, who shot 36.5% from 3 and 31.3% from 16ft-3pt range.
Randle is a very good offensive player with a true shooting percentage exceeding 60% over the past 2 years. His PER is 21, which ties him for No. 36 in the entire league.
Getting him for a 2 year deal, and leveraging a small amount of cash/year to execute a 3rd year team option for a 25 year old player with the above production is a clear home run, far be it something to complain about.
There are 2 major aspects to the free agency process - recruiting and negotiation. The latter is frequently underrated because the top guys all get max contracts. In my opinion, achieving a deal like this reflects much better on the Knicks management team than lucking into Durant or Leonard.
Im not arguing about the 2 year deal. 2 years its a nice move. Number 1 to me is keeping flexibility
