Knicks · OT: We are in a fight for the soul of our nation (page 1)

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

Harris? Maybe
Biden? Highly doubtful
Sanders? Doubtful
O’Rourke? Didn’t seem to do so well in the debates from what I heard.
Klobuchar? I heard good things about her but she seems to have zero momentum. Am I wrong about that?
Booker? Doubtful.

Cartman718 wrote:El Paso, Dayton, Sandy Hook...list goes on.
#MoscowMitch and #MoscowsBitch/#TerroristTrump/#TraitorTrump

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

I support your right to use your voice and post whatever you want.
But I cannot argue with you about the subject as my opinion is not in tune with political views of the majority or posters on this forum.
But if you just want to use this thread as propaganda without any debate potential this should work.

Nalod wrote:Trump is an imbecile. Nothing to argue. we are an imbecilic nation.

But we are not discriminating even against imbeciles.
Isn't it great?

arkrud wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:El Paso, Dayton, Sandy Hook...list goes on.
#MoscowMitch and #MoscowsBitch/#TerroristTrump/#TraitorTrump

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

I support your right to use your voice and post whatever you want.
But I cannot argue with you about the subject as my opinion is not in tune with political views of the majority or posters on this forum.
But if you just want to use this thread as propaganda without any debate potential this should work.

Thats a non-rebuttal, rebuttal. Have to be more specific in your criticism, than calling it "propaganda". Otherwise its just name calling.

arkrud wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:El Paso, Dayton, Sandy Hook...list goes on.
#MoscowMitch and #MoscowsBitch/#TerroristTrump/#TraitorTrump

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

I support your right to use your voice and post whatever you want.
But I cannot argue with you about the subject as my opinion is not in tune with political views of the majority or posters on this forum.
But if you just want to use this thread as propaganda without any debate potential this should work.

+1

Agreed!! those who disagree do not have 1A rights protected here. Enjoy your uniformity of thought.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:El Paso, Dayton, Sandy Hook...list goes on.
#MoscowMitch and #MoscowsBitch/#TerroristTrump/#TraitorTrump

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

I support your right to use your voice and post whatever you want.
But I cannot argue with you about the subject as my opinion is not in tune with political views of the majority or posters on this forum.
But if you just want to use this thread as propaganda without any debate potential this should work.

+1

Agreed!! those who disagree do not have 1A rights protected here. Enjoy your uniformity of thought.

What thought? All I hear is a poster calling another poster's content "propaganda" without explaining why. And you agreeing with this poster. Doesnt take much thought to do that. Both of you put up or shut up.

Cartman718 wrote:Please exercise your first amendment rights. I would like to hear them. I'm sure some others would too!

Even if I agree with you, I still think this doesn't belong on the main Knicks forum. Just like Briggs you need to deal with whatever consequences and that come along this.

GustavBahler wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:El Paso, Dayton, Sandy Hook...list goes on.
#MoscowMitch and #MoscowsBitch/#TerroristTrump/#TraitorTrump

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

I support your right to use your voice and post whatever you want.
But I cannot argue with you about the subject as my opinion is not in tune with political views of the majority or posters on this forum.
But if you just want to use this thread as propaganda without any debate potential this should work.

+1

Agreed!! those who disagree do not have 1A rights protected here. Enjoy your uniformity of thought.

What thought? All I hear is a poster calling another poster's content "propaganda" without explaining why. And you agreeing with this poster. Doesnt take much thought to do that. Both of you put up or shut up.

nykshaknbake wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:El Paso, Dayton, Sandy Hook...list goes on.
#MoscowMitch and #MoscowsBitch/#TerroristTrump/#TraitorTrump

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

I support your right to use your voice and post whatever you want.
But I cannot argue with you about the subject as my opinion is not in tune with political views of the majority or posters on this forum.
But if you just want to use this thread as propaganda without any debate potential this should work.

+1

Agreed!! those who disagree do not have 1A rights protected here. Enjoy your uniformity of thought.

What thought? All I hear is a poster calling another poster's content "propaganda" without explaining why. And you agreeing with this poster. Doesnt take much thought to do that. Both of you put up or shut up.

He's been reprimanded by the powers governing this board on expressing ideas that are different than allowed.

I call it propaganda because I have a lot of experience with it from my 33 years living in USSR.
I witness a lot of this stuff and recognize it right away.
This specific stuff is not helpful at best but most likely hurt your own course.
People who are in anti-Trump camp are already on-board so you do not need this to convince them of anything.
Those who are in Tramp camp will not change their mind but rather became more angry and radicalized.
I will support any positive agenda and real solution.
All this finger-pointing and negativity from both political camps are getting old and annoying.
America need real leaders for all people not just some groups. And both Dems and Reps have non of this. Zero.

arkrud wrote:I call it propaganda because I have a lot of experience with it from my 33 years living in USSR.
I witness a lot of this stuff and recognize it right away.
This specific stuff is not helpful at best but most likely hurt your own course.
People who are in anti-Trump camp are already on-board so you do not need this to convince them of anything.
Those who are in Tramp camp will not change their mind but rather became more angry and radicalized.
I will support any positive agenda and real solution.
All this finger-pointing and negativity from both political camps are getting old and annoying.
America need real leaders for all people not just some groups. And both Dems and Reps have non of this. Zero.

I have to disagree with the bolded part above. I have members in my family that were pro Trump and are now rethinking their stance after having experienced 2+ years of him and seeing what it has done to them, their lives, jobs, etc.

So those are in Trump camp can still see the light. People do grow.

Cartman718 wrote:

arkrud wrote:I call it propaganda because I have a lot of experience with it from my 33 years living in USSR.
I witness a lot of this stuff and recognize it right away.
This specific stuff is not helpful at best but most likely hurt your own course.
People who are in anti-Trump camp are already on-board so you do not need this to convince them of anything.
Those who are in Tramp camp will not change their mind but rather became more angry and radicalized.
I will support any positive agenda and real solution.
All this finger-pointing and negativity from both political camps are getting old and annoying.
America need real leaders for all people not just some groups. And both Dems and Reps have non of this. Zero.

I have to disagree with the bolded part above. I have members in my family that were pro Trump and are now rethinking their stance after having experienced 2+ years of him and seeing what it has done to them, their lives, jobs, etc.

So those are in Trump camp can still see the light. People do grow.

No doubt. But they grow from experience and looking at good deeds not from exaggerated statements and conspiracy theories.
Only shallow people are moved by propaganda and you do not want this people to be on your side. They cannot be trusted.

Nalod wrote:Trump is an imbecile. Nothing to argue. we are an imbecilic nation.

I work in mental health- I think thinking of him as an imbecile is a mistake- he's basically a psychopath, and I think he's smart in the sense of he knows exactly how to manipulate people- he has animal cunning, he knows what he's doing.

And I didn't and wouldn't vote for an indiotic loudmouth with no executive management experience and extremist views. That applied to 2016 as well as in 2008/2012.

smackeddog wrote:

Nalod wrote:Trump is an imbecile. Nothing to argue. we are an imbecilic nation.

I work in mental health- I think thinking of him as an imbecile is a mistake- he's basically a psychopath, and I think he's smart in the sense of he knows exactly how to manipulate people- he has animal cunning, he knows what he's doing.

Psychopath is the property of any charismatic politician.
He has to be. Especially in the age of Reality TV.
Trump is US, all of us, left and right, black and white, reach and pure.
We created this monster and we have to leave with it the best we can.
America is huge Reality Show and it is up to each of us what role we play.

jrodmc wrote:Will be interesting to see how our beloved management handles this side of an argument.

And I didn't and wouldn't vote for an indiotic loudmouth with no executive management experience and extremist views. That applied to 2016 as well as in 2008/2012.

i would truly be interested in your argument for equating obama and trump as “idiots” and “loudmouths.”

nykshaknbake wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:El Paso, Dayton, Sandy Hook...list goes on.
#MoscowMitch and #MoscowsBitch/#TerroristTrump/#TraitorTrump

I know this is a sports forum and we primarily talk Knicks, and I am sorry if I am offending some people by bringing a "political" thread into this category, but we all have a voice...we need to use it. Can you tolerate 4 more years of this horrible "regime"?

Please for the love of God, look deep into your soul if you are still a Trump Supporter. You are supporting a party of...
Inhuman Treatment of Refugees
White Supremacists / Nationalists / KKK / Racists
No Gun Control / NRA
Money over Everything
Child Molester Nominees
Thoughts and Prayers...as in no actions
Russian Oligarch Support

Just how many bad eggs do you have to see in your basket before you decide that basket is not for you?
(Wonder if this thread can be pinned or is it too early for a 2020 election)

I support your right to use your voice and post whatever you want.
But I cannot argue with you about the subject as my opinion is not in tune with political views of the majority or posters on this forum.
But if you just want to use this thread as propaganda without any debate potential this should work.

+1

Agreed!! those who disagree do not have 1A rights protected here. Enjoy your uniformity of thought.

What thought? All I hear is a poster calling another poster's content "propaganda" without explaining why. And you agreeing with this poster. Doesnt take much thought to do that. Both of you put up or shut up.

He's been reprimanded by the powers governing this board on expressing ideas that are different than allowed.

So the alternative is just calling it propaganda? Do they have something besides "Trump is us"?
No kidding, still doesnt mean we give him a pass. Most Americans voted for the alternative in greater numbers. Wasnt much of an alternative. Would have brought us an older, crazier, and better prepared Trump in 2020. We werent going to avoid this. Now that its here, the racism, bigotry, regressive policies should be called out for what they are. Not another plunge into "whataboutism".