Jimbo5 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:I hope that is the case bigDaddyG. Not a fan of lateral moves
Even Chad Ford has backed away from the aggregated POS article.
This one is somewhat reassuring. As expected Thibs is pushing for win now moves. As long as the price is right and we can still have some of our youth in the roster to be able to sustain a long term sustainable run. Being able to keep 1 first rounder each year moving forward is ideal. il be ok with some win now moves.
Im assuming thats trading for Westbrook for peanuts/cap space relief and maybe a sign and trade for Hayward. A sign and trade might be a cheaper option than trading for a second star.
I hear you. But the reason they'll be cheaper is that their signings carry risk. I'm not onboard with going all out to sign FVV, but at least I have a degree of confidence that he'll last through his next deal at a consistent level of performance. Even Westbrook, whose contract is horrendous, should still be a top 10 PG in two years. Haywood and Oladipo are major gambles due to their injury histories. Sometimes the gamble pays off. Most times you're the Lakers scrambling to find a body because DeMarcus Cousins had his 30th major leg injury in an 8 month span. Do you think Haywood and Dipo are worth that gamble?
BigDaddyG wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:I hope that is the case bigDaddyG. Not a fan of lateral moves
Even Chad Ford has backed away from the aggregated POS article.
This one is somewhat reassuring. As expected Thibs is pushing for win now moves. As long as the price is right and we can still have some of our youth in the roster to be able to sustain a long term sustainable run. Being able to keep 1 first rounder each year moving forward is ideal. il be ok with some win now moves.
Im assuming thats trading for Westbrook for peanuts/cap space relief and maybe a sign and trade for Hayward. A sign and trade might be a cheaper option than trading for a second star.
I hear you. But the reason they'll be cheaper is that their signings carry risk. I'm not onboard with going all out to sign FVV, but at least I have a degree of confidence that he'll last through his next deal at a consistent level of performance. Even Westbrook, whose contract is horrendous, should still be a top 10 PG in two years. Haywood and Oladipo are major gambles due to their injury histories. Sometimes the gamble pays off. Most times you're the Lakers scrambling to find a body because DeMarcus Cousins had his 30th major leg injury in an 8 month span. Do you think Haywood and Dipo are worth that gamble?
I do have reservations with Oladipo, i wont mind passing up on him but i think Hayward wont be much of a gamble. Based on last year's performance he was able to average 17.5pts, 6.7rebs and 4.1 assists on a loaded Celtics team. 3-4 years of that production is a potential good signing for me.
BigDaddyG wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:https://thespun.com/nba/new-york-knicks/...The Knicks might be seriously considering jumping up to the top 3. And the price for that is either RJ or Mitch!
Is Lamelo better than RJ? If i were to choose, id rather stick with RJ.i feel LaMelo can be the type of player that will be distracted by the bright lights of NY. Is Wiseman better than Mitch? For this one im still undecided i might be ok with this if only its a Mitch for wiseman deal but i think there is still a future unprotected or top 3 protected pick involved. The price is too high while the gains wont be much better.
A trade up is definitely being considered, for me this is a typical knicks move. I hope this doesn't happen.
According to NBA insider Chad Ford
stop right there. Ford is not reliable. The Knicks shied away from the #2 pick because they didn't want to include Mitch and RJ. I doubt they changed their mind for pick #3.
Ford's game is that the swap "is Too rich" for the Knicks which is a dog whistle that Dolan can't afford it. That has nothing to do with it.
The top picks in this draft are simply higher risk than in preceding drafts (as if that's possible) and so moving up from 8 to 1-5 is worth what?
The teams holding those picks *want you to believe* they are worth a haul. But they aren't. Everybody knows that. But for entertainment's sake its being played up like Knicks [for clicks] are so desperate that they'll sell their souls for the limelight on ESPN's draft night special.
Don't go down that rabbit hole.
We need 3 who can shoot & defend so it’s either Neismith or Vassel. Would focus on point guard with the later pick.
TLover wrote:We need 3 who can shoot & defend so it’s either Neismith or Vassel. Would focus on point guard with the later pick.
21 of the 60 players available are either PG or combo guards.
And most of them are a steal where they will get drafted.
BPA at 8
On the low I really like Quickley for pick 27. Especially if the plan is to put him behind FVV to learn to be a point guard.
That's a lot of draft capital
smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:That's a lot of draft capital
I'm Jealous!
If you look at those picks a lot will be late 20’s
smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:That's a lot of draft capital
I'm Jealous!
Why? We'd only use them to have the privilege of absorbing John Wall's contract in '22 
wargames wrote:smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:That's a lot of draft capital
I'm Jealous!
If you look at those picks a lot will be late 20’s
Not so sure- Clips could implode (who knows what happens with Paul George). Either way, they can either just build via the draft or outbid us if any good player becomes available for a trade, plus they have a nice player in SGA to build with and a first rate developmental programme
If true, seems like we won't be drafting a PG with the 8.
Jimbo5 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:I hope that is the case bigDaddyG. Not a fan of lateral moves
Even Chad Ford has backed away from the aggregated POS article.
This one is somewhat reassuring. As expected Thibs is pushing for win now moves. As long as the price is right and we can still have some of our youth in the roster to be able to sustain a long term sustainable run. Being able to keep 1 first rounder each year moving forward is ideal. il be ok with some win now moves.
Im assuming thats trading for Westbrook for peanuts/cap space relief and maybe a sign and trade for Hayward. A sign and trade might be a cheaper option than trading for a second star.
I hear you. But the reason they'll be cheaper is that their signings carry risk. I'm not onboard with going all out to sign FVV, but at least I have a degree of confidence that he'll last through his next deal at a consistent level of performance. Even Westbrook, whose contract is horrendous, should still be a top 10 PG in two years. Haywood and Oladipo are major gambles due to their injury histories. Sometimes the gamble pays off. Most times you're the Lakers scrambling to find a body because DeMarcus Cousins had his 30th major leg injury in an 8 month span. Do you think Haywood and Dipo are worth that gamble?
I do have reservations with Oladipo, i wont mind passing up on him but i think Hayward wont be much of a gamble. Based on last year's performance he was able to average 17.5pts, 6.7rebs and 4.1 assists on a loaded Celtics team. 3-4 years of that production is a potential good signing for me.
You do not want Oladipo. He has not been the same since the leg injury. He’s just a catch and shoot guy now
TLover wrote:We need 3 who can shoot & defend so it’s either Neismith or Vassel. Would focus on point guard with the later pick.
Yes we can get Quickley at 27. Cole Anthony’s stock is dropping he may be there too
martin wrote:
Feels similar to the strategy Utah used when they nabbed D Mitchell. Not mad at this.
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:
Feels similar to the strategy Utah used when they nabbed D Mitchell. Not mad at this.
Love that this new regime is playing close to the vest....
