fishmike wrote:TPercy wrote:Uptown wrote:TPercy wrote:Uptown wrote:NYKBocker wrote:https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/sources-k...Begley reporting that Knicks and Warriors have interest in trading Russel for Portis and Frank. Contract wise that doesn't work. However, Portis and Payton for Russel works.
Portis and Frank are not nearly enough for Russell. Mitch may have to be included, not to mention a 1st rd pick. Lets not forget, Russ was an allstar last year and lead the nets to the playoffs...
Gross. Would love to have Russell but most I'm giving up is a 2023 Dallas pick, our 2nd rounder, DSJ and Randle
I always look at trades from the other team's perspective. If I'm the warriors, any trade offer from the Knicks has to begin with Mitch and a 1st round pick. Frank and Portis are not even close to enough for Russ. Why would GS want trade pg who is 2xs better than the pg the Knicks are offering? And you also want me to take Randle?
If that's the offer, I'm hanging up the phone.
Looking at it from their perspectives they are the ones who need to trade him more than we need him. How many teams in the NBA need a guard like Russell?
Maybe Cleveland?
Maybe Magic?
T Wolves?
Detroit?
Spurs?
How many of them are interested? Right now its just us and the T Wolves. If I offer you a pick, Frank, and expiring essentially we are giving GSW a chance to start over and find their KD replacement and they're a pick and a solid backup PG better off than they were last year. Are the Twolves stupid enough to give up their pick this year for him? GSW arnt taking back Wiggins as that would defeat the whole purpose of the trade in the first place. I could see a Russell+GSW pick for Towns but that would be highway robbery given how horrible this draft is. Not saying the package we have to offer is ideal but GSW are the ones in a pickle here not us and we are correct in trying to exploit that.
TWolves have to give up their #1 because they have no expiring good deals to give up
But does that make sense for TWolves? Lets say the deal is as someone posted earlier Covington + Dieng + their first for Russell. Do the T-Wolves become a better team and or more financially better off?
TPercy wrote:fishmike wrote:TPercy wrote:Uptown wrote:TPercy wrote:Uptown wrote:NYKBocker wrote:https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/sources-k...Begley reporting that Knicks and Warriors have interest in trading Russel for Portis and Frank. Contract wise that doesn't work. However, Portis and Payton for Russel works.
Portis and Frank are not nearly enough for Russell. Mitch may have to be included, not to mention a 1st rd pick. Lets not forget, Russ was an allstar last year and lead the nets to the playoffs...
Gross. Would love to have Russell but most I'm giving up is a 2023 Dallas pick, our 2nd rounder, DSJ and Randle
I always look at trades from the other team's perspective. If I'm the warriors, any trade offer from the Knicks has to begin with Mitch and a 1st round pick. Frank and Portis are not even close to enough for Russ. Why would GS want trade pg who is 2xs better than the pg the Knicks are offering? And you also want me to take Randle?
If that's the offer, I'm hanging up the phone.
Looking at it from their perspectives they are the ones who need to trade him more than we need him. How many teams in the NBA need a guard like Russell?
Maybe Cleveland?
Maybe Magic?
T Wolves?
Detroit?
Spurs?
How many of them are interested? Right now its just us and the T Wolves. If I offer you a pick, Frank, and expiring essentially we are giving GSW a chance to start over and find their KD replacement and they're a pick and a solid backup PG better off than they were last year. Are the Twolves stupid enough to give up their pick this year for him? GSW arnt taking back Wiggins as that would defeat the whole purpose of the trade in the first place. I could see a Russell+GSW pick for Towns but that would be highway robbery given how horrible this draft is. Not saying the package we have to offer is ideal but GSW are the ones in a pickle here not us and we are correct in trying to exploit that.
TWolves have to give up their #1 because they have no expiring good deals to give up
But does that make sense for TWolves? Lets say the deal is as someone posted earlier Covington + Dieng + their first for Russell. Do the T-Wolves become a better team and or more financially better off?
KAT and Russell are boys. They think this move will keep KAT happy.
Since this is a good time for wild trade ideas why not bring in Markieff Morris? If we really plan on keeping marcus then lets double down. Get rid of Randle and let the morris twins do their thing
Uptown wrote:
There is nothing on that roster that I'm thrilled about. Nice that they're thinking about moving Randle tho.
BigDaddyG wrote:Uptown wrote:
There is nothing on that roster that I'm thrilled about. Nice that they're thinking about moving Randle tho.
This! I do like Rozier though...Dude is a dog!
Uptown wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Uptown wrote:
There is nothing on that roster that I'm thrilled about. Nice that they're thinking about moving Randle tho.
This! I do like Rozier though...Dude is a dog!
Randle, Smith, and Portis for Rozier, Monk and Byombo makes some sense. Saves the Hornets a little money and balances out each roster. Smith draws some fanfare as a local product and maybe can find his game there. Rozier immediately upgrades the PG position and adds shooting and defense. He’s a great fit alongside Barrett.
Why not form a whole team of celtics castoffs
Sure fire way to dominate
Hornets already having buyers remorse on rozier who is a good player but overpaid
Rozier, Cody Martin and Monk for Randle, Smith and Trier works for me.
fwk00 wrote:Rozier, Cody Martin and Monk for Randle, Smith and Trier works for me.
I don’t even know who Cody Martin is and I’d almost do this trade. Wish Rozier had 1 year less on contract.
martin wrote:fwk00 wrote:Rozier, Cody Martin and Monk for Randle, Smith and Trier works for me.
I don’t even know who Cody Martin is and I’d almost do this trade. Wish Rozier had 1 year less on contract.
Contract is the sticking point for me. We might have made a mistake for Randle, but we only have to deal with one year- at most. Terry can be scary at point and I don't see the point, pun unintended, if bringing him in as a shooting guard.
martin wrote:fwk00 wrote:Rozier, Cody Martin and Monk for Randle, Smith and Trier works for me.
I don’t even know who Cody Martin is and I’d almost do this trade. Wish Rozier had 1 year less on contract.
Frazier really liked Martin's game when we played them. He might be a sleeper. If Morris moves to PF, Martin could step in at SF and share that spot with Knox. Monk can't be any more invisible than Trier.
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:fwk00 wrote:Rozier, Cody Martin and Monk for Randle, Smith and Trier works for me.
I don’t even know who Cody Martin is and I’d almost do this trade. Wish Rozier had 1 year less on contract.
Contract is the sticking point for me. We might have made a mistake for Randle, but we only have to deal with one year- at most. Terry can be scary at point and I don't see the point, pun unintended, if bringing him in as a shooting guard.
We have to stop worrying about cap space and concentrate on assembling a winning team. Rozier is better than what we have and PGs are at a premium. Of the Rumors Rozier vs Schroder vs Rose.
Hands down - Rozier in my book. And its fair trade. Randle is a decent player, Martin a smart emerging player, Monk - no more a project than DSJ or Trier.
The forums have been griping about PG play for months - here's a candidate.
Uptown wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Uptown wrote:
There is nothing on that roster that I'm thrilled about. Nice that they're thinking about moving Randle tho.
This! I do like Rozier though...Dude is a dog!
I said Knicks could trade Randle for Rozier 2 months ago! Problem with Rozier is he's not good at anything- the archetype player we seem to target!
smackeddog wrote:Uptown wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Uptown wrote:
There is nothing on that roster that I'm thrilled about. Nice that they're thinking about moving Randle tho.
This! I do like Rozier though...Dude is a dog!
I said Knicks could trade Randle for Rozier 2 months ago! Problem with Rozier is he's not good at anything- the archetype player we seem to target!
Yeah he's no James Harden.
martin wrote:fwk00 wrote:Rozier, Cody Martin and Monk for Randle, Smith and Trier works for me.
I don’t even know who Cody Martin is and I’d almost do this trade. Wish Rozier had 1 year less on contract.
Cody is under the radar glue. I would do this trade but calibrate expectations
Randle and Smith have nothing shown me that consistent w reports they have very low BB IQ
So shedding those two is addition by subtraction. Rozier is also not high iq from what I saw as a Celtic but way smarter than those 2. Monk is an enigma. He comes across as way undersized 2 who can’t shoot from outside well enough
This is a trade 2 bad teams make to show fanbase they’re trying to do something
Crazy that both teams are trying to shed their recent marquee signing
fwk00 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:fwk00 wrote:Rozier, Cody Martin and Monk for Randle, Smith and Trier works for me.
I don’t even know who Cody Martin is and I’d almost do this trade. Wish Rozier had 1 year less on contract.
Contract is the sticking point for me. We might have made a mistake for Randle, but we only have to deal with one year- at most. Terry can be scary at point and I don't see the point, pun unintended, if bringing him in as a shooting guard.
We have to stop worrying about cap space and concentrate on assembling a winning team. Rozier is better than what we have and PGs are at a premium. Of the Rumors Rozier vs Schroder vs Rose.
Hands down - Rozier in my book. And its fair trade. Randle is a decent player, Martin a smart emerging player, Monk - no more a project than DSJ or Trier.
The forums have been griping about PG play for months - here's a candidate.
I don’t agree w this. Our FO is inept. We should be worried about them making desperate moves to save their jobs and hurt us in the future
If we had a talented FO I would think dofferently
