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Welpee @ 4/19/2021 12:44 PM
OK, so its been 24 hours since my 2nd Pfizer shot...so far zero side effects. In fact, my arm isn't even sore like it was for the 1st shot.

My first shot was at this mass county vaccination event with hundreds of people (ironic considering we're suppose to practice social distancing and discourage mass gatherings). My shot yesterday was at a pharmacy. Perhaps the people giving shots at the mass event aren't as well trained in administering vaccinations compared to the pharmacist?

Anyway, so far no issues after the first 24 hours.

martin @ 4/19/2021 12:49 PM
Welpee wrote:OK, so its been 24 hours since my 2nd Pfizer shot...so far zero side effects. In fact, my arm isn't even sore like it was for the 1st shot.

My first shot was at this mass county vaccination event with hundreds of people (ironic considering we're suppose to practice social distancing and discourage mass gatherings). My shot yesterday was at a pharmacy. Perhaps the people giving shots at the mass event aren't as well trained in administering vaccinations compared to the pharmacist?

Anyway, so far no issues after the first 24 hours.

In fact, I'd guess that to be the case. Lots of volunteers at big sites who may not regularly give shots.

smackeddog @ 4/19/2021 2:48 PM
Welpee wrote:OK, so its been 24 hours since my 2nd Pfizer shot...so far zero side effects. In fact, my arm isn't even sore like it was for the 1st shot.

My first shot was at this mass county vaccination event with hundreds of people (ironic considering we're suppose to practice social distancing and discourage mass gatherings). My shot yesterday was at a pharmacy. Perhaps the people giving shots at the mass event aren't as well trained in administering vaccinations compared to the pharmacist?

Anyway, so far no issues after the first 24 hours.

I don’t think it’s that causes the sore arm, it’s you body’s immune system:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scien...

Why your arm might be sore after getting a vaccine

Pain and rashes are normal responses to foreign substances being injected into our bodies. But how much pain you experience after a shot depends on a lot of factors.

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The good news, experts say, is that arm pain and even rashes are normal responses to the injection of foreign substances into our bodies. “Getting that reaction at the site is exactly what we would expect a vaccine to do that is trying to mimic a pathogen without causing the disease,” says Deborah Fuller, a vaccinologist at the University of Washington School of Medicine, in Seattle.

Given the many intricacies of the immune system and individual quirks, not feeling pain is normal, too, says William Moss, an epidemiologist and executive director of the International Vaccine Access Center at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health in Baltimore. “People can develop protective immune responses and not have any of that kind of local reaction,” he Danger signals
A variety of vaccines are notorious for the soreness they cause around the injection site, and the explanation for why begins with so-called antigen-presenting cells. These cells are constantly on the prowl in our muscles, skin, and other tissues. When they detect a foreign invader, they set off a chain reaction that eventually produces antibodies and long-lasting protection against specific pathogens. That process, known as the adaptive immune response, can take a week or two to ramp up.

Meanwhile, within minutes or even seconds of getting vaccinated or detecting a virus, antigen-presenting cells also send out “danger” signals that, Moss says, essentially say, “‘Hey, there's something here that doesn't belong. You guys should come here. We should get rid of it.’”

This rapid reaction, known as the innate immune response, involves a slew of immune cells that arrive on the scene and produce proteins known as cytokines, chemokines, and prostaglandins, which recruit yet more immune cells and have all sorts of physical effects, Fuller says. Cytokines dilate blood vessels to increase blood flow, causing swelling and redness. They can also irritate nerves, causing pain. Cytokines and chemokines induce inflammation, which is also painful. Prostaglandins interact directly with local pain receptors.

The innate immune response doesn’t stop at the arm. For some people, the same inflammatory process also can cause fevers, body aches, joint pain, rashes or headaches.

The reason some vaccines cause more symptoms than others—a tendency called reactogenicity—is because of the strategies and ingredients they employ. The vaccine for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR), for example, is made from live, weakened forms of the viruses that intentionally cause a mild form of infection and stimulate the body’s innate immune response, leading to a variety of symptoms, including sore arms. Other vaccines, including some flu shots, introduce inactivated viruses. The hepatitis B vaccine presents parts of the virus along with chemicals called adjuvants that are designed to get antigen-presenting cells riled up and boost the adaptive immune response.

Those substances, Fuller says, “are the first trigger your body gets to say, ‘Something is going on here, and I need to respond to it.’”
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Full article is worth reading! As well as a sore arm, I also got a big red mark on my arm for a few days, which I think is rarer, but the article talks about that too

GustavBahler @ 4/20/2021 5:48 PM
Got my shot at a drive thru vaccination. Everyone was very friendly. They told me to tell others they had plenty more vaccines for today. I live in a mostly anti-vax area. Sad to see.

So far no "Moderna Penis"

Allanfan20 @ 4/20/2021 5:59 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Got my shot at a drive thru vaccination. Everyone was very friendly. They told me to tell others they had plenty more vaccines for today. I live in a mostly anti-vax area. Sad to see.

So far no "Moderna Penis"

I was gonna say I haven’t developed a fourth leg yet.

Welpee @ 4/20/2021 7:29 PM
Over 48 hours since Pfizer shot #2 and no side effects. I'm assuming I should be good, right?
ToddTT @ 4/20/2021 7:44 PM
Welpee wrote:Over 48 hours since Pfizer shot #2 and no side effects. I'm assuming I should be good, right?

Congrats. I think another 24 hours and you’re 100% in the clear.

It affects older people less... are you in that category?

Welpee @ 4/20/2021 9:58 PM
ToddTT wrote:
Welpee wrote:Over 48 hours since Pfizer shot #2 and no side effects. I'm assuming I should be good, right?

Congrats. I think another 24 hours and you’re 100% in the clear.

It affects older people less... are you in that category?

Yes. Also heard being male helps too.
Allanfan20 @ 4/20/2021 10:02 PM
Welpee wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
Welpee wrote:Over 48 hours since Pfizer shot #2 and no side effects. I'm assuming I should be good, right?

Congrats. I think another 24 hours and you’re 100% in the clear.

It affects older people less... are you in that category?

Yes. Also heard being male helps too.

Congrats on your immunity success. The Knicks won this for you.

GustavBahler @ 4/20/2021 11:32 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Got my shot at a drive thru vaccination. Everyone was very friendly. They told me to tell others they had plenty more vaccines for today. I live in a mostly anti-vax area. Sad to see.

So far no "Moderna Penis"

I was gonna say I haven’t developed a fourth leg yet.

Clean @ 4/21/2021 4:11 PM
This is an extremely important story that covers Vaccine effectiveness, anti vaccine people and variants in a real world situation. I will be pasting the whole twitter thread here for easy reading. If it makes this post too long please forgive me.

Cliff Notes version:

An unvaccinated worked caused outbreak in nursing home.
Outbreak was a variant with mutations to make vaccines less effective.
Pfizer was the vaccine in this case and while the effectiveness was much less vs the variant it still helped the most vulnerable people a huge amount.
This is very encouraging.

Clean @ 4/21/2021 4:18 PM
He added more:
Interesting that someone who previously had it caught it after 300 days. So we might be needing those booster shots a little more frequently than once a year. It also seems to have hit him harder on the reinfection which lead to his death.



Welpee @ 4/21/2021 5:36 PM
Over 72 hours with no side effects. I hope this is encouraging to those who are reluctant. Obviously it affects everyone differently, but side effects aren't a foregone conclusion.
ToddTT @ 4/21/2021 6:29 PM
Welpee wrote:Over 72 hours with no side effects. I hope this is encouraging to those who are reluctant. Obviously it affects everyone differently, but side effects aren't a foregone conclusion.

I’ve heard the 73rd hour can be a turning point. Brace yourself!

Seriously though, glad to hear it.

GustavBahler @ 4/21/2021 8:09 PM
About a day and a half since getting vaccinated. So far no side effects.

At least I didnt get the Pfizer vaccine. Who wants explosive diarreah?

Clean @ 4/22/2021 12:59 AM
This is a hard video to watch. I knew it was not going to be pretty when India's leaders sent kids to back to school during a pandemic. Kids are not disciplined enough to strictly follow protocols to avoid spreading the virus. Add that to the fact that once they kids get home they would be around family without masks. Add on top of that the sheer huge population in India and this was inevitable.

Allanfan20 @ 4/22/2021 5:18 PM
Clean wrote:This is a hard video to watch. I knew it was not going to be pretty when India's leaders sent kids to back to school during a pandemic. Kids are not disciplined enough to strictly follow protocols to avoid spreading the virus. Add that to the fact that once they kids get home they would be around family without masks. Add on top of that the sheer huge population in India and this was inevitable.

So sad.

Clean @ 4/23/2021 8:46 AM
To add some positive news.

martin @ 4/23/2021 9:46 AM
It's hard work to get to that point.... 3rd slide has a few more details.

Vaccine, mask mandates, long shutdown

Clean wrote:To add some positive news.

Clean @ 4/23/2021 9:56 AM
martin wrote:It's hard work to get to that point.... 3rd slide has a few more details.

Vaccine, mask mandates, long shutdown

Clean wrote:To add some positive news.

Thanks for the addition. The bad part about catching his threads in real time is that he might be still updating them after you finish reading it.

GustavBahler @ 4/26/2021 10:50 AM
Bill Gates says no to sharing vaccine formulas with global poor to end pandemic Health advocates blast Microsoft billionaire for saying patent protections on life-saving vaccines must remain

https://www.salon.com/2021/04/26/bill-ga...

Dont believe these billionaires understand how sick a large part of the world is of them. They should care before it reaches a tipping point.

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