Knicks · OT: NFL DRAFT TONIGHT!!! (page 1)

NYKBocker @ 4/23/2020 2:51 PM
No NBA. No Knicks. However, NFL DRAFT NIGHT is here!

Let's go BIG BLUE!!!

I want one of the top OTs (Wirfs, Wills, Thomas, Bekton) or Simmons for the 4th spot. My wish though is to trade down and still be in the top 10 to get one of the top OTs and get extra late 1st round or 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder. WooHoo!

Oh man. How I miss sports.

NYKBocker @ 4/23/2020 2:53 PM
If we get to trade down and get multiple picks and still land 1 of the top OTs....man .....

wargames @ 4/23/2020 2:53 PM
NBA should call the season, save for the playoffs and let draft go on as a separate thing.
CrushAlot @ 4/23/2020 3:56 PM
NYKBocker wrote:No NBA. No Knicks. However, NFL DRAFT NIGHT is here!

Let's go BIG BLUE!!!

I want one of the top OTs (Wirfs, Wills, Thomas, Bekton) or Simmons for the 4th spot. My wish though is to trade down and still be in the top 10 to get one of the top OTs and get extra late 1st round or 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder. WooHoo!

Oh man. How I miss sports.


This is where I am at. Also, agree with Wargames. NBA needs to cancel the regular season, have the draft and make up the playoffs whenever they can. We need the draft.
NYKBocker @ 4/23/2020 4:26 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:No NBA. No Knicks. However, NFL DRAFT NIGHT is here!

Let's go BIG BLUE!!!

I want one of the top OTs (Wirfs, Wills, Thomas, Bekton) or Simmons for the 4th spot. My wish though is to trade down and still be in the top 10 to get one of the top OTs and get extra late 1st round or 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder. WooHoo!

Oh man. How I miss sports.


This is where I am at. Also, agree with Wargames. NBA needs to cancel the regular season, have the draft and make up the playoffs whenever they can. We need the draft.

I think they should have a High School type playoffs. Everyone plays. There will be an outbracket for each conference where all series are best of 3. The top 6 per conference is safe. The rest needs to play into the last 2 spots.

S1 - 9 vs 16
S2 - 11 vs 14

S3 - 10 vs 15
S4 - 12 vs 13

S5 - WS1 vs WS2
S6 - WS3 vs WS4

S7 - 7 vs WS6
S8 - 8 vs WS5

Then best of 7 for the top 8 where the WS7 is 7th seed and WS8 is the 8th seed.

Everyone needs to be tested before they can play. All participants need to be tested as well from refs to the announcers to the cameramen. All of them. Once tested negative for COVID-19 then isolate them from everyone else. Play in 1 location with multiple courts. No fans. Just televise.

Allanfan20 @ 4/23/2020 4:32 PM
NYKBocker wrote:If we get to trade down and get multiple picks and still land 1 of the top OTs....man .....

How far down would you trade? Supposedly the Dolphins want one of the tackles. Maybe they are just competing with the chargers to get one of the QBs but you don’t know that. The furthest down I am willing to go is San Diego. IMO, the Giants really need someone like Wills.

NYKBocker @ 4/23/2020 4:59 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:If we get to trade down and get multiple picks and still land 1 of the top OTs....man .....

How far down would you trade? Supposedly the Dolphins want one of the tackles. Maybe they are just competing with the chargers to get one of the QBs but you don't know that. The furthest down I am willing to go is San Diego. IMO, the Giants really need someone like Wills.
I think to get the top 4 OTs we need to stay in the top 10.
Knickfury11 @ 4/23/2020 5:12 PM
NFL not really my thing but hope fate smiles on the Giants. Kinda my associated team me being a Knicks fan. Anytime I’ve been to NY don’t think I ever met a Jets fan? Is there a heated rivalry between Jets and Giants?
NBA draft definitely needed.
Allanfan20 @ 4/23/2020 5:15 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:If we get to trade down and get multiple picks and still land 1 of the top OTs....man .....

How far down would you trade? Supposedly the Dolphins want one of the tackles. Maybe they are just competing with the chargers to get one of the QBs but you don't know that. The furthest down I am willing to go is San Diego. IMO, the Giants really need someone like Wills.
I think to get the top 4 OTs we need to stay in the top 10.

I agree. I would trade down with the chargers. Maybe Jacksonville at 9. That’s it. Pretty sure Carolina is taking Simmons and I’m pretty sure the Chargers are taking a QB. Just don’t know about Arizona and Miami.

CrushAlot @ 4/23/2020 6:45 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:If we get to trade down and get multiple picks and still land 1 of the top OTs....man .....

How far down would you trade? Supposedly the Dolphins want one of the tackles. Maybe they are just competing with the chargers to get one of the QBs but you don't know that. The furthest down I am willing to go is San Diego. IMO, the Giants really need someone like Wills.
I think to get the top 4 OTs we need to stay in the top 10.

I agree. I would trade down with the chargers. Maybe Jacksonville at 9. That’s it. Pretty sure Carolina is taking Simmons and I’m pretty sure the Chargers are taking a QB. Just don’t know about Arizona and Miami.

Jacksonville is rumored to be trying to move up to #3.
NYKBocker @ 4/23/2020 7:10 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:If we get to trade down and get multiple picks and still land 1 of the top OTs....man .....

How far down would you trade? Supposedly the Dolphins want one of the tackles. Maybe they are just competing with the chargers to get one of the QBs but you don't know that. The furthest down I am willing to go is San Diego. IMO, the Giants really need someone like Wills.
I think to get the top 4 OTs we need to stay in the top 10.
I agree. I would trade down with the chargers. Maybe Jacksonville at 9. That's it. Pretty sure Carolina is taking Simmons and I'm pretty sure the Chargers are taking a QB. Just don't know about Arizona and Miami.
Jacksonville is rumored to be trying to move up to #3.

All these rumors are good for us. Hopefully a bidding war happens.

NYKBocker @ 4/23/2020 8:59 PM
Got our tackle. I'm good with it.
SupremeCommander @ 4/23/2020 9:07 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Got our tackle. I'm good with it.

I'm not.. you couldn't have fucking gotten a third round pick from either miami or lac? Thomas can play but i feel like they wasted value

NYKBocker @ 4/23/2020 9:20 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Got our tackle. I'm good with it.
I'm not.. you couldn't have fucking gotten a third round pick from either miami or lac? Thomas can play but i feel like they wasted value
I am sure they tried, but Miami and the chargers got their QBs without moving up. The only other team that maybe we could have gotten some picks are the Panthers or the jaguars but those guys got their QBs already.
Allanfan20 @ 4/23/2020 9:32 PM
The chips just didn’t seem aligned enough. I would have traded with the Chargers or Jaguars and it seemed like that was too hard.
CrushAlot @ 4/23/2020 10:12 PM
NotInMyHouse @ 4/24/2020 7:36 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Got our tackle. I'm good with it.

I'm not.. you couldn't have fucking gotten a third round pick from either miami or lac? Thomas can play but i feel like they wasted value

It doesn't look like it. What other posters mentioned is a start but I think it goes beyond that.
Thomas is a guarantee at LT, the other top OT's were not quite. If we moved back to get a third, I suggest you look at how our last 3rd round selections went. Just not even close to being worth it.
Look at Crush's Tweet. Those arms...

CrushAlot @ 4/24/2020 9:21 AM
A lot of really good info on Thomas on Giants reddit. It’s making it hard to get work done.
newyorknewyork @ 4/24/2020 10:07 AM
CrushAlot wrote:A lot of really good info on Thomas on Giants reddit. It’s making it hard to get work done.

He was the #1 OT going into the season. Was the OT I was hoping we took(though was hoping for a trade down first). The other OTs rose due to the combine. Thomas did nothing himself to drop from being the #1 OT in terms of play. The other OTs just created more buzz than him leading to the draft.

With our 2nd rounder I would be happy with Mckinney, Gross-Matos, or Higgins. Wouldn't mind trading down though for a later 2nd but earlier 3rd. Target Cushinberry, Chinn, Perryman jr.

NYKBocker @ 4/24/2020 1:59 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:A lot of really good info on Thomas on Giants reddit. It’s making it hard to get work done.

He was the #1 OT going into the season. Was the OT I was hoping we took(though was hoping for a trade down first). The other OTs rose due to the combine. Thomas did nothing himself to drop from being the #1 OT in terms of play. The other OTs just created more buzz than him leading to the draft.

With our 2nd rounder I would be happy with Mckinney, Gross-Matos, or Higgins. Wouldn't mind trading down though for a later 2nd but earlier 3rd. Target Cushinberry, Chinn, Perryman jr.

I don't understand the people complaining about Thomas instead of Wirfs/Wills/Becton. They all had very similar grades. Thomas is the most accomplished and battle tested. Simmons would have been nice but a LT for the next 10 years is worth the number 4 pick.

For the 2nd rounder. If Gross-Matos or Epenesa is available then I want them. If not then I want a center. Hennessey from Temple is the one I want. It might be a reach but I don't think a starting center will be available at the end of the 3rd Round. If we get Gross-Matos or Epenesa in the 2nd Round then I will be praying that Biadasz or Harris or Cushenberry make it to the 99th pick. They are below Hennesey and Ruiz but might challenge for a starting spot at C.

SupremeCommander @ 4/24/2020 3:53 PM
NotInMyHouse wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Got our tackle. I'm good with it.

I'm not.. you couldn't have fucking gotten a third round pick from either miami or lac? Thomas can play but i feel like they wasted value

It doesn't look like it. What other posters mentioned is a start but I think it goes beyond that.
Thomas is a guarantee at LT, the other top OT's were not quite. If we moved back to get a third, I suggest you look at how our last 3rd round selections went. Just not even close to being worth it.
Look at Crush's Tweet. Those arms...

personally,I think they messed it up. Unless the Chargers were going to take their guy first no matter what

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