martin wrote:I think there are exactly 2 reasons a stimulus bill either won't happen in the short term or won't happen at all: 1) McConnel can't get language into bill for liability protects for corporations 2) Republican senators just won't vote for anything
OK there is a 3rd: Trump and his cronies need loose enough language in bill to create slush funds for themselves.
BRIGGS, here is today's update. They don't give a shit about people in need
martin wrote:martin wrote:I think there are exactly 2 reasons a stimulus bill either won't happen in the short term or won't happen at all: 1) McConnel can't get language into bill for liability protects for corporations 2) Republican senators just won't vote for anything
OK there is a 3rd: Trump and his cronies need loose enough language in bill to create slush funds for themselves.
BRIGGS, here is today's update. They don't give a shit about people in need
His seat is on the ballot as well in KY. Its flawed that only one state gets to decide the outcome for a person who has as much power as he does to effect everyone in US. Something as to change with that. When you reach the level where you can make decisions that reach outside of your state. Then everyone who you are able to effect should be able to have a vote.
newyorknewyork wrote:martin wrote:martin wrote:I think there are exactly 2 reasons a stimulus bill either won't happen in the short term or won't happen at all: 1) McConnel can't get language into bill for liability protects for corporations 2) Republican senators just won't vote for anything
OK there is a 3rd: Trump and his cronies need loose enough language in bill to create slush funds for themselves.
BRIGGS, here is today's update. They don't give a shit about people in need
His seat is on the ballot as well in KY. Its flawed that only one state gets to decide the outcome for a person who has as much power as he does to effect everyone in US. Something as to change with that. When you reach the level where you can make decisions that reach outside of your state. Then everyone who you are able to effect should be able to have a vote.
His seat may be on the ballot but he can still lose control of the senate if the democrats take over. Chuck Schumer would take that spot.
Remember how he got there. Eric Canter of virginia was too moderate for GOP and they got him out throwing money in the primary. Canter never had a chance. His District is red and he got clotheslined by his own party.
Thats how it works. Gerrymandering has its consequences.
Don't follow Kentucky much but Democrats need a better candidate than Amy McGrath
martin wrote:Sounds about right
There are so many genuinely amoral people in the senate- wish voters would stop rewarding these kinds of people with votes
The bar just drops lower and lower
https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/22/dutch-...A Dutch security researcher says he accessed President Trump’s @realDonaldTrump Twitter account last week by guessing his password: “maga2020!”.Victor Gevers, a security researcher at the GDI Foundation and chair of the Dutch Institute for Vulnerability Disclosure, which finds and reports security vulnerabilities, told TechCrunch he guessed the president’s account password and was successful on the fifth attempt.
The account was not protected by two-factor authentication, granting Gevers access to the president’s account.
After logging in, he emailed US-CERT, a division of Homeland Security’s cyber unit Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), to disclose the security lapse, which TechCrunch has seen. Gevers said the president’s Twitter password was changed shortly after.
Feel like it has already started but zany season is here
Mailed my ballot last week.
KnickDanger wrote:Mailed my ballot last week.
put in my absentee early this week
I put my mask on, socially distant with others, and walked in and pouching voted.
My vote is not in the mail, its in. My vote will not be in question.
Accept for the empathy level( which is understandable)
I don’t see Biden as anything other than getting Trump gone. I was very concerned how he talked about North Korea. If we’re on Trump for dishonesty Biden was quite dishonest last night. I don’t understand what is message is. I give him credit for being much fiestier than I thought— but for all those who wanted Trump out—I really don’t see much of an upgrade here? And are we better with President Kamala Harris? I m not sure. I’d rather have mike pence as president
BRIGGS wrote: I’d rather have mike pence as president
Heck no. He's probably one of the last people in world you'd want spearheading a plan to deal with the current pandemic. And that's leaving out all of the other major concerns I have.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/pence-...
The outbreak of HIV was linked to extensive use by Scott County residents of a prescription opioid painkiller called Opana, which was taken off the market in 2017. Needle-sharing was common in the area, where many members of a family often live in the same house.Experts say that in situations like the one in Scott County needle exchange programs are essential. But Pence, a social conservative, was very much opposed to them, seeing them as contributing to drug abuse. (According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, however, syringe services programs “do not cause or increase illegal drug use.”) It took much lobbying by other officials to get Pence to give the program — which was illegal in Indiana — the green light.
On March 23, 2015, months after the outbreak began, Pence said he was going home to pray on the issue, according to the New York Times. Soon afterward he declared a public health emergency and approved the program. “It was disappointing that it took so much effort to bring the governor on board,” Ed Clere, a Republican state representative who championed the needle exchange, told the Times in 2016.
BRIGGS wrote:Accept for the empathy level( which is understandable)
I don’t see Biden as anything other than getting Trump gone. I was very concerned how he talked about North Korea. If we’re on Trump for dishonesty Biden was quite dishonest last night. I don’t understand what is message is. I give him credit for being much fiestier than I thought— but for all those who wanted Trump out—I really don’t see much of an upgrade here? And are we better with President Kamala Harris? I m not sure. I’d rather have mike pence as president
Come on man. We all know that people in general will shade the truth or what we perceive one way or the other to get what they want, and especially so in the context of politicians. To put anyone in the same zip code or galaxy as Trump is an outstanding level of mental denying and gymnastics that would seem incomprehensible.
One of the 2 has:
Been the biggest perpetrator of lies regarding COVID IN THE WORLD.
Wants to remove the ACA and will devastate millions if it happens and has ZERO backup plan.
Categorically FAILED at doing anything to prevent the spread of COVID and everything else after that.
Divides our country into Red and Blue for zero reason.
Spreads and incites racism.
We could go on and on.
If you don't see much of a difference, that's on you.
Again, there are 2 things in front of you just like in 2016: a plate of shit that is filled with glass and a chicken dinner. If you can't see the difference, you will be served whatever in your basement. Why are you in the basement hiding out again? 1 reason: The failure of Trump.
Not to mention the damage to the economy
BRIGGS wrote:Accept for the empathy level( which is understandable)
I don’t see Biden as anything other than getting Trump gone. I was very concerned how he talked about North Korea. If we’re on Trump for dishonesty Biden was quite dishonest last night. I don’t understand what is message is. I give him credit for being much fiestier than I thought— but for all those who wanted Trump out—I really don’t see much of an upgrade here? And are we better with President Kamala Harris? I m not sure. I’d rather have mike pence as president
Sometimes you just have to stop the bleeding, and getting rid of this grade A moron is the first thing we have to do before we can start to make things better
And BRIGGS, I realize that my style of posting is often if not always attachy and confrontational in many instances around topics like this but I'd hope that you can really dig down and get below the surface of detail and information on these topics. You are are far from getting close to a level of understanding than I'd expect.
martin wrote:And BRIGGS, I realize that my style of posting is often if not always attachy and confrontational in many instances around topics like this but I'd hope that you can really dig down and get below the surface of detail and information on these topics. You are are far from getting close to a level of understanding than I'd expect.
Hillary Clinton abd Joe Biden are fakes. They are dishonest they are racists they do everything you said trump does. Again I don’t think it’s much of an upgrade. But I’m not a participant this time around and I really don’t care who wins—
BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:And BRIGGS, I realize that my style of posting is often if not always attachy and confrontational in many instances around topics like this but I'd hope that you can really dig down and get below the surface of detail and information on these topics. You are are far from getting close to a level of understanding than I'd expect.
Hillary Clinton abd Joe Biden are fakes. They are dishonest they are racists they do everything you said trump does. Again I don’t think it’s much of an upgrade. But I’m not a participant this time around and I really don’t care who wins—
Hillary is not in the room any more. This is a trump rally style. go off on Hillary.
Biden a “fake”?
Tilt to one of the worst hypocrites to ever hold the office. A true Racist awful man but when faced with what was best for the country did the right thing. By some measure he has been credited no. 2 behind Lincoln regarding helping African Americans. We talking Lyndon Johnson. What he did was not of his own beliefs but what was right for the country. Not for himself or agenda. Great men don’t always make great presidents and somtimes what defines you is what you do when a decision faces you. Johnson was a deeply flawed man but he drew a line on segregation and held it.
Nixon was a massive failure because he abused his powers. At the end of the day he had one shread of patriotism left when he resigned to not do more damage to the country. While unpopular at the time perhaps that earned him the pardon he got from Ford.
Trump already has how many already facing and been convicted from his staff?
Briggs, what your doing is lame. Faced with a voting choice you put you above all else. NObody loves Biden but he is human. A man that has suffered unthinkable loss of a child and wife and demonstrates empathy. When school children were being murdered Obama stood up and asked the people to feel it. Nobody came for the guns. Trump is a transactional narsassistic sociopath incapable of doing anything beyond how it benefits him. That you say you don’t care who wins is not entirely honest. We are all stewards of this country and sometimes what’s best for it is not what’s best for us individually. Your basically still conversationally defending trump.
Trump was a mistake. Biden is not trump. This is enough for now. This is the reality was face.
The big picture is no other candidate was able to elevate beyond him. This is as good at it gets for now.
martin wrote:And BRIGGS, I realize that my style of posting is often if not always attachy and confrontational in many instances around topics like this but I'd hope that you can really dig down and get below the surface of detail and information on these topics. You are are far from getting close to a level of understanding than I'd expect.
Not worth it. I know more about the ugly side of the Democratic party than most. The real stuff. Even I have to acknowledge there is something worse out there. Anyone who still cant see that, after all the evidence. Shows why "it CAN happen here".
