I wouldn’t cry if we got LaMelo but putting your chips on two guys who don’t shoot it deep well at 1-2 even though both are skill players is not my recipe.
Not giving anyone massive assets to move up
BRIGGS wrote:I wouldn’t cry if we got LaMelo but putting your chips on two guys who don’t shoot it deep well at 1-2 even though both are skill players is not my recipe.Not giving anyone massive assets to move up
Me neither.
I agree with this guy 100%. If get pick 3-6, we should look to trade up and offer Knox, the clippers pick and Dallas pick next year. Ball would give us one of the most dynamic backcourts in the league, and I think concerns about his shooting are overblown. He will be a better shooter than Lonzo.
We can easily be outbid by the Twolves or Bulls, so I don't think trading up for Ball is likely
Our pick(6th pick), DSJ and clippers pick is the max deal I'd do.
unstopaball12 wrote:Our pick(6th pick), DSJ and clippers pick is the max deal I'd do.
way way too much
Don't want that spoiled brat kid and his drama father near the knicks go to a small market team like his brother did. The ball brothers can't handle big markets and media they get to distracted .
martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Our pick(6th pick), DSJ and clippers pick is the max deal I'd do.
way way too much
Thats actually not so bad IF you really want Lemelo at the 1st or 2nd pick. I have no idea if his draft posltion is a media fabrication as there is really no buzz about him or really anyone.
For that matter is DSjr even viable anymore? Is he even as good as Mudiay?
Nalod wrote:martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Our pick(6th pick), DSJ and clippers pick is the max deal I'd do.
way way too much
Thats actually not so bad IF you really want Lemelo at the 1st or 2nd pick. I have no idea if his draft posltion is a media fabrication as there is really no buzz about him or really anyone.
For that matter is DSjr even viable anymore? Is he even as good as Mudiay?
He better...his confidence and shot are broken..
BRIGGS wrote:I wouldn’t cry if we got LaMelo but putting your chips on two guys who don’t shoot it deep well at 1-2 even though both are skill players is not my recipe.Not giving anyone massive assets to move up
Exactly how I feel. I am relatively indifferent between all players 1-7 and 8-16. Would happily trade the 1 and 27 for 5 and 16 picks.
martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Our pick(6th pick), DSJ and clippers pick is the max deal I'd do.
way way too much
Too much? That offer isn’t nearly enough.
doomed wrote:martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Our pick(6th pick), DSJ and clippers pick is the max deal I'd do.
way way too much
Too much? That offer isn’t nearly enough.
He'll probably drop to us and we'll pass. There's better, no headache, talent to be had.
I dont think i will like to trade up for LaMelo, yes he is a wizard with the ball but his shooting scares me off. We cant surround RJ with non-shooters. We already have a specialized player who can't shoot in this team atleast not consistently, which i dont want to give up on. A roster with an excellent passer in Ball and an excellent defender in Frank both have questionable shooting. The only PG i would consider taking with our first pick is Hayes or Haliburton. I would rather look at Deni Avdija, Okoro or Obi Toppin if we stay at 6. I feel with a not particularly strong draft this year, the draft positioning for our own first rounder is not that critical, you can basically get the same impact player in the top 10 if you draft wisely. I know Wiseman can stand out but i dont know about the fit.
If the Knicks draft Ball it will be a typical Dolan era move.. LaMelo Ball is over-rated - can’t shoot & doesn’t play D.. but bc he was a social media star; idiot Dolan will think he will make the Knicks more popular as opposed to making them a winning team. This draft is very important and if we screw it up by drafting LaMelo will continue to live in the sewer...
Nalod wrote:martin wrote:unstopaball12 wrote:Our pick(6th pick), DSJ and clippers pick is the max deal I'd do.
way way too much
Thats actually not so bad IF you really want Lemelo at the 1st or 2nd pick. I have no idea if his draft posltion is a media fabrication as there is really no buzz about him or really anyone.
For that matter is DSjr even viable anymore? Is he even as good as Mudiay?
Agreed. If you desperately want Melo, that’s a fair enough package. The problem is that if you aren’t sold on him, like a lot of us, then it’s way too much. I personally would just rather stay away so anything is too much.
I don't want that garbage player and his dumb drama family this kid is not worth it.
TLover wrote:If the Knicks draft Ball it will be a typical Dolan era move.. LaMelo Ball is over-rated - can’t shoot & doesn’t play D.. but bc he was a social media star; idiot Dolan will think he will make the Knicks more popular as opposed to making them a winning team. This draft is very important and if we screw it up by drafting LaMelo will continue to live in the sewer...
People like LaMelo for his elite passing skills not because he's a social media star (is he actually a social media star? Never heard anything form him with regards to that)
smackeddog wrote:TLover wrote:If the Knicks draft Ball it will be a typical Dolan era move.. LaMelo Ball is over-rated - can’t shoot & doesn’t play D.. but bc he was a social media star; idiot Dolan will think he will make the Knicks more popular as opposed to making them a winning team. This draft is very important and if we screw it up by drafting LaMelo will continue to live in the sewer...
People like LaMelo for his elite passing skills not because he's a social media star (is he actually a social media star? Never heard anything form him with regards to that)
We need a shooter, shot creator, and lock down defender..he possesses none of those traits..do not need someone to promote the “Baller” brand.
Since he came up in another thread, if you HAD to have a Ball brother, which one would you prefer? Lonzo or LaMelo?
Lonzo's absolutely the surer thing - he's already in the NBA and is already putting up numbers. We know he needs to improve his shot. A LOT. But what prevents him from being close to as effective as, let's say... Ben Simmons?
LaMelo moves more like an athletic wing with more east west wiggle while Lonzo looks like more of a north-south guy (he's been able to produce) and you have to think LaMelo has more upside. I'm most worried about his potentially lower floor - he may not have faced quality competition for us to measure his worth, and he hasn't gone through the same gauntlet most NBA players go through (working through the high school & college ranks along with the human experiences that go with them - going to classes, coached to speak to the media and conduct himself in public, dealing with pressure). Sure his family experience, experience abroad is something, it's just unique.
My biggest concern about LaMelo is that I worry that we may be seeing Dante Exum all over again. (2014 Draft, #5 overall pick by Utah) Scouts drooled over Exum's exceptional bball IQ combined with his physical attributes. Second coming of Penny Hardaway. But alas, like Penny, he suffered an ACL tear early and hasn't been able to establish himself as more than a 15mpg role player.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1921...
But back to Ball vs Ball. Lonzo is imminently more available to us via trade, esp if Zion isn't feeling him. LaMelo - we'll have to see where the ping pong balls fall.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2889...
