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BillTheButcher wrote:IMHO this draft is pretty much hot trash , so landing @8 does not bother me at all like it otherwise would (example last years).

I am high AF , but I would take this kid at 8.

It will open the k I is up to more names different scenarios

BRIGGS wrote:

BillTheButcher wrote:IMHO this draft is pretty much hot trash , so landing @8 does not bother me at all like it otherwise would (example last years).

I am high AF , but I would take this kid at 8.

It will open the k I is up to more names different scenarios

He's likely to drop to us with our second pick. Maybe not. JR Smith potential hopefully without the headcase baggage.

at 8- if the draft is a crap shoot - then there will be no real BPA and we should simply draft on need - pick the best PG, or the best shooter.

I not upset that we fell to #8, statistically that is the most likely outcome. I will be upset if the front office panics and try to blow things up just to get their hands on LaMelo. This is not the draft class to make a big move on. With the 8th pick, im liking the idea of getting Devin Vassell, probably one of the best 3&D players in the draft. He is not the star we are hoping for maybe not even a starter but he is NBA ready and will be a solid role player. Maybe if Okoro is still available and the coaching staff is confident they can improve his shooting the way Thibs developed Butler then im good with that too. Not sure how he fits with RJ but a line up of frank, RJ, Okoro, Bertans and Mitch will be scarry defensively but the offense/outside shooting will be a clear problem, unless next year RJ and Frank can significantly improve their 3 point shooting.

franco12 wrote:at 8- if the draft is a crap shoot - then there will be no real BPA and we should simply draft on need - pick the best PG, or the best shooter.

I think we can get the best shooter. It could honestly end up as a godsend. Now as a diehard Knicks fan I have to hope for improvement by Mitch Robinson and Frank.

Im going hard on the Nesmith bandwagon.

I want the best shooter in the 8 spot

Jimbo5 wrote:I not upset that we fell to #8, statistically that is the most likely outcome. I will be upset if the front office panics and try to blow things up just to get their hands on LaMelo. This is not the draft class to make a big move on. With the 8th pick, im liking the idea of getting Devin Vassell, probably one of the best 3&D players in the draft. He is not the star we are hoping for maybe not even a starter but he is NBA ready and will be a solid role player. Maybe if Okoro is still available and the coaching staff is confident they can improve his shooting the way Thibs developed Butler then im good with that too. Not sure how he fits with RJ but a line up of frank, RJ, Okoro, Bertans and Mitch will be scarry defensively but the offense/outside shooting will be a clear problem, unless next year RJ and Frank can significantly improve their 3 point shooting.

Jimbo5 wrote:I not upset that we fell to #8, statistically that is the most likely outcome. I will be upset if the front office panics and try to blow things up just to get their hands on LaMelo. This is not the draft class to make a big move on. With the 8th pick, im liking the idea of getting Devin Vassell, probably one of the best 3&D players in the draft. He is not the star we are hoping for maybe not even a starter but he is NBA ready and will be a solid role player. Maybe if Okoro is still available and the coaching staff is confident they can improve his shooting the way Thibs developed Butler then im good with that too. Not sure how he fits with RJ but a line up of frank, RJ, Okoro, Bertans and Mitch will be scarry defensively but the offense/outside shooting will be a clear problem, unless next year RJ and Frank can significantly improve their 3 point shooting.

THIS.
This is exactly my take as well. Eight is a great place to draft. Three or four of the projected picks that will come before us are average at best. IMO, we dodged a bullet or two.

By eight, there will be 3 or four very attractive players available. If we flip it, grab Vassell. Full stop.

Not highly rated, considered second tier but a really nice fit here - just love the way the game is natural to him.

But hey, Okoro, Toppin, Bey - I'd be thrilled with any of them.

What about Aleksej Pokuševski ay 8?

7 foot passer, ball mover, shooter who moves like a guard. Compliments Mitch but obviously needs lots of time. Think of it as a different version of taking a shot at Giannis at 18 years old.

Jimbo5 wrote:I not upset that we fell to #8, statistically that is the most likely outcome. I will be upset if the front office panics and try to blow things up just to get their hands on LaMelo. This is not the draft class to make a big move on. With the 8th pick, im liking the idea of getting Devin Vassell, probably one of the best 3&D players in the draft. He is not the star we are hoping for maybe not even a starter but he is NBA ready and will be a solid role player. Maybe if Okoro is still available and the coaching staff is confident they can improve his shooting the way Thibs developed Butler then im good with that too. Not sure how he fits with RJ but a line up of frank, RJ, Okoro, Bertans and Mitch will be scarry defensively but the offense/outside shooting will be a clear problem, unless next year RJ and Frank can significantly improve their 3 point shooting.

i agree. now there is less pressure to draft according to the script and we can
target needs and the larger group of players that are in the mid to back of lottery range.

maybe a shooter but i m more partial to the many pg's that we can groom like
kira lewis, cole anthony or ty maxey...none without warts but not a slow footed knox among
them. they are all athletes who can handle the ball and will be able to run with rj, frank and mitch.

i d then take a chance on another guard with with either of our next picks and a young pf to
groom behind taj, preferably who can shoot a bit. thats a wrap until next year's lottery which is deeper and has more star potential in the top 5. thats when the knicks bad luck finally changes and we jump up from 9 to 1 to take cade cunningham. book it.

I think we are in a good position, this is within the wheelhouse of Walt Perrin, the Jazz havent had a top 3 pick in a while but the have found Gems thanks to Perrin and Bryant. But if Rose's mind is made up to trade up, i hope he holds on to the two first rounders we have for next year. Just package all this year's picks and or future 2nd rounders to move up. Thats the most im willing to give out. Otherwise if we stay put, i think we can get good players in this draft. Please package the clips pick to move up 10 spots to get Nesmith or kira Lewis if they want a point guard.

TheGame wrote:Devin Vassel should be the pick. Hayes and Haliburton likely are gone by 8th pick. One might be there, but I think Vassel still should be the pick. He is exactly what we want at the 2/3. Good defense, solid 3 point shooter, unselfish, smart, and athletic.

I fully support this!

martin wrote:What about Aleksej Pokuševski ay 8?

7 foot passer, ball mover, shooter who moves like a guard. Compliments Mitch but obviously needs lots of time. Think of it as a different version of taking a shot at Giannis at 18 years old.

Poku seriously intrigues me.the thing is i dont think anyone of the new hires of the front office is good at overseas scouting, so I don't know if they have enough info on him to justify picking him(swinging for the fence/home run type of pick). Il be ok with Okoro, Vassell, Toppin if available or Poku with the 8th.

POKU is a great risk to take at 27 and a terrible risk to take at 8. He is no Giannis, and probably not even a KP, although his reading of the game makes me think he would be a very useful player in the NBA. Great as a third or fourth best player on a team in a plug and play role. Like a poor man's Tony Kukoc.

But if we find a way to net both POKU and Nesmith in this draft without giving up any significant assets, I would be ecstatic.

martin wrote:What about Aleksej Pokuševski ay 8?

7 foot passer, ball mover, shooter who moves like a guard. Compliments Mitch but obviously needs lots of time. Think of it as a different version of taking a shot at Giannis at 18 years old.

Shwinny said on the podcast that he'd heard some things about poor work ethic or attitude or mentality or something that had given him cause for concern. If this kid doesn't have elite drive and work ethic, I don't think he's worth the risk.

If you’re looking for an nba role player vassell or okoro. If you’re looking for an nba scorer Nesmith. We already have a slasher in Barrett. We need a shooter who will space the floor

Klay and Booker both went after 10. It's one of those enigmas where a guy who can really shoot it drops and then it later emerges the guy can do more than shoot.

Hoping we have the eye for that

Jimmy Butler went at 30. Draymond went even later. HOping with our 27 pick we get some hyper-competitive type who is more prone to improve his game, then some star who slipped (probably deservedly)

PLease only get guys who are all about winning

HofstraBBall wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Will be interested in what PGs will be there, if we keep the pick.

Would rather pick the best player available. Think our later picks can be position need based picks.

The best player may not be the best fit.

Why would you prefer talent over fit?

BRIGGS wrote:If you’re looking for an nba role player vassell or okoro. If you’re looking for an nba scorer Nesmith. We already have a slasher in Barrett. We need a shooter who will space the floor

We need a PG or a wing that can shoot. Cole Anthony, Vassell, and Nesmith all fit. Anthony obviously has most upside and downside. All 3 are floor spacers.

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If you’re looking for an nba role player vassell or okoro. If you’re looking for an nba scorer Nesmith. We already have a slasher in Barrett. We need a shooter who will space the floor

We need a PG or a wing that can shoot. Cole Anthony, Vassell, and Nesmith all fit. Anthony obviously has most upside and downside. All 3 are floor spacers.

If Cole is anything like Greg as a player, I do not want him with the #8 pick. The physical resemblance is striking.