If we hadn’t won that final game vs the Hawks, we wouldn’t be in this situation where we’re looking to use two picks to move up
smackeddog wrote:If we hadn’t won that final game vs the Hawks, we wouldn’t be in this situation where we’re looking to use two picks to move up
Who knows? With the way the lottery is rigged now, it probably didn't make difference.
BigDaddyG wrote:smackeddog wrote:If we hadn’t won that final game vs the Hawks, we wouldn’t be in this situation where we’re looking to use two picks to move up
Who knows? With the way the lottery is rigged now, it probably didn't make difference.
And no one knew it was the last game. I was actually hoping we'd make a run at the last playoff spot since we were playing better under Miller.
BigDaddyG wrote:smackeddog wrote:If we hadn’t won that final game vs the Hawks, we wouldn’t be in this situation where we’re looking to use two picks to move up
Who knows? With the way the lottery is rigged now, it probably didn't make difference.
Exactly. The purpose of the lottery is to ensure nobody knows where they'll pick. Didn't we have the worst record in the league last year and picked 3rd?
Had a feeling Rose would deal a pick(s) wasnt sure in which direction. Rose might not be done, or there is a player at the bottom of the first round. Maybe someone they like so much, they arent leaving any room for error.
Curious to see what Rose does with the 8th pick.
We also got the rights to Ante Tomic. Anyone have any info?
joec32033 wrote:Welpee wrote:joec32033 wrote:My first thought is this has to be a play for something bigger because face value this trade makes no sense. There is NO way they can predict in this particular draft someone not being there at 27 but being there at 23. Even for a trade for a higher lotto pick it doesn't make sense to me, as in this draft I would think the 27 and 38 would be more valuable than the 23 due to the talent level being so close at the bottom of the first/beginning of the second. The ONLY way I see this making sense is they know someone they like got a guarantee from someone in the picks 24 to 26 range and they needed to get ahead of that team to grab whoever.
I disagree. If the Knicks see I guy they really like being projected to go in the 20s, if moving up 4 spots increases you chances of getting the guy you want by say 30% and all you had to do is forfeit a 2nd round pick (#38), it makes total sense to me. Especially since acquiring a 2nd pick elsewhere is probably very doable. Philly has four 2nd round picks. You would think simply buying one from them is an option.
Understood but you don't increase your chances by giving up an asset. You wait for the Jazz to draft that player then trade the 27 and 38 for him. In this particular draft there isn't much separation from the picks in the 20's to the picks in the 40's or so. So why give up what can be 2 quality players for 1 quality player that really isn't markedly better?
Yeah its really stupid it makes zero sense
Jmpasq wrote:joec32033 wrote:Welpee wrote:joec32033 wrote:My first thought is this has to be a play for something bigger because face value this trade makes no sense. There is NO way they can predict in this particular draft someone not being there at 27 but being there at 23. Even for a trade for a higher lotto pick it doesn't make sense to me, as in this draft I would think the 27 and 38 would be more valuable than the 23 due to the talent level being so close at the bottom of the first/beginning of the second. The ONLY way I see this making sense is they know someone they like got a guarantee from someone in the picks 24 to 26 range and they needed to get ahead of that team to grab whoever.
I disagree. If the Knicks see I guy they really like being projected to go in the 20s, if moving up 4 spots increases you chances of getting the guy you want by say 30% and all you had to do is forfeit a 2nd round pick (#38), it makes total sense to me. Especially since acquiring a 2nd pick elsewhere is probably very doable. Philly has four 2nd round picks. You would think simply buying one from them is an option.
Understood but you don't increase your chances by giving up an asset. You wait for the Jazz to draft that player then trade the 27 and 38 for him. In this particular draft there isn't much separation from the picks in the 20's to the picks in the 40's or so. So why give up what can be 2 quality players for 1 quality player that really isn't markedly better?
Yeah its really stupid it makes zero sense
I saw this draft as one with just 5 high ceiling players. However, also felt like from 6 to 30 there were all players with solid floors. Trading the 8th for multiple picks and keeping 27 and 38th seemed to make the most sense early. However, do see the side that Rose may not want that many rookie contracts if he is looking to compete this year. So understand the strategy to use the picks to upgrade or use in a trade. But why use them to just move up 4 spots? Hopefully they saw something they needed to move on.
