Knicks · 2021 NCAA prospect watch / 2021 Draft (page 36)

BRIGGS @ 5/30/2021 1:04 PM

I put a post about this guy on the main board. Im falling in love with this guy. Watch his videos. This guy is WAY WAY underrated. He can handle smooth at 6-9 has tier one athleticism body control and length. Even his jumper looks half way decent with room to improve. Used more as a lob catching 4 at slower paced SMU----easily transition to the NBA 3 man. Hard work on his perimeter game and you possibly have quite an NBA prospect.

So far hes my locked in pick for 32. Id leverage my upper 2nd rd position to grab him.

BigDaddyG @ 5/30/2021 9:38 PM
BRIGGS wrote:

I put a post about this guy on the main board. Im falling in love with this guy. Watch his videos. This guy is WAY WAY underrated. He can handle smooth at 6-9 has tier one athleticism body control and length. Even his jumper looks half way decent with room to improve. Used more as a lob catching 4 at slower paced SMU----easily transition to the NBA 3 man. Hard work on his perimeter game and you possibly have quite an NBA prospect.

So far hes my locked in pick for 32. Id leverage my upper 2nd rd position to grab him.

I don't think I'd use pick #32 on him due to his rawness, but he's certainly worth a look. He definitely has plus athleticism.

TPercy @ 5/31/2021 10:36 AM
More on Mann from another mans perspective. The guy is too skilled of a scorer for us not to look at him. If he fully develops as a playmaker he’s going to be very hard to stop. I could see a better version of him really helping us out in this series.
VDesai @ 6/1/2021 6:55 PM
yeah I like this Tre Mann. One thing this series has taught us is the value of the floater
BRIGGS @ 6/1/2021 9:59 PM
VDesai wrote:yeah I like this Tre Mann. One thing this series has taught us is the value of the floater

How about guys taller than 6-7 who can play?

BigDaddyG @ 6/1/2021 10:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
VDesai wrote:yeah I like this Tre Mann. One thing this series has taught us is the value of the floater

How about guys taller than 6-7 who can play?


This team has holes to fill regardless of size. Need to take the best player available, be it Shariffe Cooper, or Bouknight or whoever.
Knixkik @ 6/2/2021 4:30 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
VDesai wrote:yeah I like this Tre Mann. One thing this series has taught us is the value of the floater

How about guys taller than 6-7 who can play?


This team has holes to fill regardless of size. Need to take the best player available, be it Shariffe Cooper, or Bouknight or whoever.

We have holes, but let's be honest, it's unlikely we fill them at 19, 21, and 32 in the draft. Maybe we get lucky with another Quickley, but overall we should be looking to draft players that can eventually replace Rose, Gibson, and Bullock in the rotation 2-3 years down the road and effectively fill out the roster and develop until then.

BRIGGS @ 6/3/2021 6:07 PM
I’m not sure what will happen in free agency
But if we have pick 19 and Roko Prkacin is still there I hope we take him. I think he’s gonna be a very good player for a long time in the nba.
martin @ 6/3/2021 9:10 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I’m not sure what will happen in free agency
But if we have pick 19 and Roko Prkacin is still there I hope we take him. I think he’s gonna be a very good player for a long time in the nba.

It's always weird to me that when you lock into something that you think is a supreme idea, then there is zero taking in any additional info from anyone who has extra and often contrary opinion.

But it shouldn't be weird at this point cause that's been you for 20+ years.

Carry on soldier

BRIGGS @ 6/4/2021 2:08 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I’m not sure what will happen in free agency
But if we have pick 19 and Roko Prkacin is still there I hope we take him. I think he’s gonna be a very good player for a long time in the nba.

It's always weird to me that when you lock into something that you think is a supreme idea, then there is zero taking in any additional info from anyone who has extra and often contrary opinion.

But it shouldn't be weird at this point cause that's been you for 20+ years.

Carry on soldier

I kind of went through his history a bit. This is first time In actually going with a euro but I stand by it.
He’s 6-9 220
The first thing I notice about him is toughness which I think is an essential characteristic. He’s a jyd.
He handles the ball like a guard
His shooting from 17-18 years old improved a LOT
He’s a very good passer
He’s an excellent rebounder
He’s athletic and long although nota super athlete— but he certainly plays well above the rim
He’s 18
He’s had near triple doubles in pro leagues with adults not kids.
He’s a good euro prospect —- I think as a team builder asset at 19( cuz hard to find stars) he’s a really good prospect — one that we don’t have. Sf euro tough skill player

wargames @ 6/6/2021 1:58 PM
TPercy wrote:More on Mann from another mans perspective. The guy is too skilled of a scorer for us not to look at him. If he fully develops as a playmaker he’s going to be very hard to stop. I could see a better version of him really helping us out in this series.

I actually think Tree Mann rises outside our range.

Based on the majority of mocks I seen. I have Mann and Bouknight as risers and Kispert and Jalen Johnson as fallers.

wargames @ 6/6/2021 2:56 PM

I really like Trey Murphy as a Bullock replacement. His 3pt shot looks pure, can guard 1-4, and is a cutter to the rim, and has a bit of drive ability. The best part is he is 6’9, with 7’1 wingspan. At the 3 he would force teams to make a tough defensive choice if we put RJ at SG.

I could see him as a Cameron Johnson type player for the Knicks, but a little more upside just based on his physical profile.

TPercy @ 6/6/2021 8:57 PM
wargames wrote:
TPercy wrote:More on Mann from another mans perspective. The guy is too skilled of a scorer for us not to look at him. If he fully develops as a playmaker he’s going to be very hard to stop. I could see a better version of him really helping us out in this series.

I actually think Tree Mann rises outside our range.

Based on the majority of mocks I seen. I have Mann and Bouknight as risers and Kispert and Jalen Johnson as fallers.


True, but he won’t rise too much to the point we can’t get him at a reasonable price. If Knox has to be thrown in to move up 3 or 4 spots I’m cool with that. If we have to throw in both firsts, I’m not opposed to that either. We just need to grab a guy with lots of upside but can still contribute at an NBA level right away and Tre Mann is one of em.
xavier @ 6/7/2021 5:42 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I’m not sure what will happen in free agency
But if we have pick 19 and Roko Prkacin is still there I hope we take him. I think he’s gonna be a very good player for a long time in the nba.

It's always weird to me that when you lock into something that you think is a supreme idea, then there is zero taking in any additional info from anyone who has extra and often contrary opinion.

But it shouldn't be weird at this point cause that's been you for 20+ years.

Carry on soldier

I kind of went through his history a bit. This is first time In actually going with a euro but I stand by it.
He’s 6-9 220
The first thing I notice about him is toughness which I think is an essential characteristic. He’s a jyd.
He handles the ball like a guard
His shooting from 17-18 years old improved a LOT
He’s a very good passer
He’s an excellent rebounder
He’s athletic and long although nota super athlete— but he certainly plays well above the rim
He’s 18
He’s had near triple doubles in pro leagues with adults not kids.
He’s a good euro prospect —- I think as a team builder asset at 19( cuz hard to find stars) he’s a really good prospect — one that we don’t have. Sf euro tough skill player

As I already wrote to you, he will not be SF in the NBA. Yes, he can play that position, but he will have more success at PF. You can’t take what someone is playing in Europe and just transfer it to the NBA. European basketball is like the NBA 15 years ago. Old school centers that are losing their place in the NBA are still playing in Europe. European basketball is nowhere near as athletic as this one in the NBA and a lot of the players there look like very good wings, but in the NBA they can’t play that position and became NBA PF in the end.

I will repeat the example of Dario Saric, who was known in Europe as a very good SF. In the NBA, he slowly became a PF and plays a backup center in the Suns today. As I wrote, he is slightly taller than Roko and is more hustle, but Roko has a bigger wingspan and is more mobile. But I'm sure his future is at PF because even though he's more athletic than Dario, he's nowhere near a super-athlete for NBA terms, he'll be an OK shooter, but he's not top in that either, and he's not exactly point forward.

martin @ 6/7/2021 3:13 PM
BillTheButcher @ 6/7/2021 4:39 PM
TPercy wrote:More on Mann from another mans perspective. The guy is too skilled of a scorer for us not to look at him. If he fully develops as a playmaker he’s going to be very hard to stop. I could see a better version of him really helping us out in this series.

KnickDanger @ 6/7/2021 7:59 PM
We are a month and a half away from the draft -- I assume outside of the top prospects these kids' positions will move around a lot as relates to where the Knicks will pick. Wonder where a Tre Mann will be will the time comes.
fitzfarm @ 6/8/2021 1:01 PM
Tj Thor looks like a great sf prospect if he’s there when we pick I think he’s be hard to pass up
TPercy @ 6/8/2021 1:44 PM
KnickDanger wrote:We are a month and a half away from the draft -- I assume outside of the top prospects these kids' positions will move around a lot as relates to where the Knicks will pick. Wonder where a Tre Mann will be will the time comes.

I don’t think he goes above 10-12. Either way he will be obtainable imo

wargames @ 6/9/2021 3:26 PM
wargames @ 6/10/2021 11:43 AM
got this off of realgm....

Best College 3pt shooters in our range:

Kispert (Wing H6,7): 44% (6,5 atempts)
Butler (ComboG H6,3): 42% (6,2 atempts)
Duarte (Wing H6,6): 42% (5,5 atempts)
Tre Man (ComboG H6,5): 40% (4,7 atempts)
Springer (ComboG H6,4): 44% (2,6 atempts)
Ayo (Combo, H6,5): 39% (2,9 atempts)
Hyland (Wing, H6,3): 37% (7,8 atempts)
Murphy (Wing, H6,9): 43% (4,8 atempts)
Petrusev (Big H6,11): 45% (2,8 atempts)


Harder to drop:
Devon Mitchell (ComboG H 6,2): 45% (4,7 attempts);
Jalen Johnson (SF/PF H 6,9): 44% (1,4 atempts)

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