A talented but not superstar guy who bounced around a bit trying to find the right spot and once he does becomes a franchise cornerstone.
26 years old
Plays hard on both ends
Coachable
Good guy
Team first player
Doesnt do stupid shit off the court
Leader on and off court (remember he showed up for OTA workouts, worked w/ Thibs in the offseason etc)
Is there a fan here who's not happy to be wrong about him last year? I know I am
fishmike wrote:A talented but not superstar guy who bounced around a bit trying to find the right spot and once he does becomes a franchise cornerstone.26 years old
Plays hard on both ends
Coachable
Good guy
Team first player
Doesnt do stupid shit off the court
Leader on and off court (remember he showed up for OTA workouts, worked w/ Thibs in the offseason etc)
Is there a fan here who's not happy to be wrong about him last year? I know I am
I am definitely happy to be wrong about him
Although we didn’t draft him, he is emerging as a Knick. Almost all of our other key pieces are our draft picks that we have watched develop through some trying times. Seeing this come together with the hope that it continues makes it so much more fun IMO than the free agent shell game.
Knixkik wrote:fishmike wrote:A talented but not superstar guy who bounced around a bit trying to find the right spot and once he does becomes a franchise cornerstone.26 years old
Plays hard on both ends
Coachable
Good guy
Team first player
Doesnt do stupid shit off the court
Leader on and off court (remember he showed up for OTA workouts, worked w/ Thibs in the offseason etc)
Is there a fan here who's not happy to be wrong about him last year? I know I am
I am definitely happy to be wrong about him
More than happy and so impressed with his new found energy / attitude. Is this the same guy? Positive approach/ mentality contributes to winning. Winning becomes infectious. Long may this continue.
Knixkik wrote:fishmike wrote:A talented but not superstar guy who bounced around a bit trying to find the right spot and once he does becomes a franchise cornerstone.26 years old
Plays hard on both ends
Coachable
Good guy
Team first player
Doesnt do stupid shit off the court
Leader on and off court (remember he showed up for OTA workouts, worked w/ Thibs in the offseason etc)
Is there a fan here who's not happy to be wrong about him last year? I know I am
I am definitely happy to be wrong about him
I didnt think we would move Randle because of his age and UK connections, but I was onboard with trading him based on last year. He was pretty selfish last year and the way RJ was frozen out with Elf/Randle running every play was brutal, but Thibs has totally changed that. Same Randle, just a better version and he looks great.
Dupe wrote:Although we didn’t draft him, he is emerging as a Knick. Almost all of our other key pieces are our draft picks that we have watched develop through some trying times. Seeing this come together with the hope that it continues makes it so much more fun IMO than the free agent shell game.
I was always hoping when he was signed his signing might become another Allan Houston-type pick-up. Feels like maybe that's starting to become the case in year 2. Houston wasn't a superstar but he was a young player who the knicks were able to grab and improved enough to become an all-star as a knick.
Its all about the coaching,and all these yrs Some fans want to talk about be patient, it's just his first yr, enjoy the TANK, he's only 18, 19, 20.
I said 2 month ago this was the best coaching staff in the NBA, and the best we had since JVG and his crew
"Every game we come in we expect to win, even if it's a (tough) matchup, we expect to win the game," Randle told SNY's Coby Green.
"And I love that about our group. And I think it's also a testament to the coaches. (Thibodeau) every day is on us. He's a great leader for us and (has) given us a game plan we believe in every day, and we're coming into every game focused and locked into the game plan."
Structure, Focus, Game plan, effort.
As much as I like how Randle is playing now and being mistaken about him, I think he won't sustain this level of play. He's shooting 40% from 3 and he's still handling the ball too much for my taste.
We are not an above 500 team this year IMO. I may be a bit cynical (2020 will do that to you) but the better teams should establish themselves and an improving team like the Knicks should face a few consecutive losses.
shinmen wrote:As much as I like how Randle is playing now and being mistaken about him, I think he won't sustain this level of play. He's shooting 40% from 3 and he's still handling the ball too much for my taste.
We are not an above 500 team this year IMO. I may be a bit cynical (2020 will do that to you) but the better teams should establish themselves and an improving team like the Knicks should face a few consecutive losses.
except we are off to a 4-3 start with key guys missing time and vs. the toughest part of the sched.
Dupe wrote:Although we didn’t draft him, he is emerging as a Knick. Almost all of our other key pieces are our draft picks that we have watched develop through some trying times. Seeing this come together with the hope that it continues makes it so much more fun IMO than the free agent shell game.
If he’s not a Knick what is he? The lakers gave up on him and so did the Pels
shinmen wrote:As much as I like how Randle is playing now and being mistaken about him, I think he won't sustain this level of play. He's shooting 40% from 3 and he's still handling the ball too much for my taste.
We are not an above 500 team this year IMO. I may be a bit cynical (2020 will do that to you) but the better teams should establish themselves and an improving team like the Knicks should face a few consecutive losses.
One would hope as the team around him improves he can still be effective with less touches.
No doubt this team is better coached using a similar formula with him as the 1st option.
Truth is it took the right situation and his maturation form this to forge over time.
Randle was not reupped by lakers so they could open cap space and in part got Lebron.
THey drafted Zion in NOla and let him walk. His contract was not conducive to trades.
He had enough to steer himself to a team that paid him fairly and develop enough to be where he is.
He might have been offered smaller money along the way but played it smartly.
This reminds me of the Crawford & Zach Randolph dilemma when D’antoni took over- both looked good early on, we got off to a good start, then decided to trade them while their value was high. Was a mistake in the end!
shinmen wrote:As much as I like how Randle is playing now and being mistaken about him, I think he won't sustain this level of play. He's shooting 40% from 3 and he's still handling the ball too much for my taste.
We are not an above 500 team this year IMO. I may be a bit cynical (2020 will do that to you) but the better teams should establish themselves and an improving team like the Knicks should face a few consecutive losses.
When you root for a team that loses so much, reality starts to seem like a dream. You Know when a person yells "How can this be Happening" because they can't believe their own eyes.
That seem to be what's going on with you.
When you mix playing hard with also playing smart, your going to have more success than not.
shinmen wrote:As much as I like how Randle is playing now and being mistaken about him, I think he won't sustain this level of play. He's shooting 40% from 3 and he's still handling the ball too much for my taste.
We are not an above 500 team this year IMO. I may be a bit cynical (2020 will do that to you) but the better teams should establish themselves and an improving team like the Knicks should face a few consecutive losses.
Check the Bull record that yr Thibs led the squad with Nate Rob to the playoffs...if Thibs can get that team to over acheive, which they probably had a better squad, he can do that with us if everything breaks right..even if Randle does not cont with this torrid pace RJ is getting more comfortable doing the lifting and you have Burks, Quivers, and others...and who knows what move they make...we may be buyers as opposed to sellers...
At the risk of hijacking the meme, i want to think of IQ (aka Squiggy) being our Russell Wilson. AN overlooked college prospect who quarterbacked a team and turned a franchise around. for those who follow football the Seahawks had just handed a Green Bay QB massive money to be their new QB, and Russell came in and it didn't take long for them to figure out he should be starting even though Matt Flynn was on a new mega contract
IQ will do same here (absent mega-contract starter)
fishmike wrote:A talented but not superstar guy who bounced around a bit trying to find the right spot and once he does becomes a franchise cornerstone.26 years old
Plays hard on both ends
Coachable
Good guy
Team first player
Doesnt do stupid shit off the court
Leader on and off court (remember he showed up for OTA workouts, worked w/ Thibs in the offseason etc)
Is there a fan here who's not happy to be wrong about him last year? I know I am
Listen if he sustains this level of play. Then he is a core piece and you have to consider making a trade to add a 3rd stud to pair with RJ & Randle. With IQ & Mitch sprinkled in.
Given the options though. Oladipo? Beasley? Would Detroit be willing to sell Jerami Grant?
The knicks might finally be heading in the right direction. During the offseason i never gave Randle a second thought good thing im not part of the Front office coz im dead wrong on Randle, 😂. The knicks draft luck is starting to head in the right direction as well. In the past 5 drafts the picks are starting to show their promise from Mitch, to RJ and even Knox. Getting quickley was a big get. We still have Toppin that alot are high on.
I hope the front office views Randle as a keeper, a franchise cornerstone. If the knicks show enough promise this season and a superstar finally walks in the door things can improve dramatically. Looking at the free agents next year im very intrigued by the prospect of adding Kawhi Leonard to this young roster. With all the draft picks in the pipeline the knicks might finally be relevant to years to come.
