It's exciting to watch Quickley progress over the course of his Knick career - it's just interesting that he's gained so much trust by the coaching staff that he basically has a greenlight to shoot whenever he's open.
He's being given the same treatment Fizdale did with Trier... except he runs the plays first - and makes an initial read - if there's an open look behind the arc, take it, otherwise continue the play.
If the Knicks keep seeing the zone, they need to consider options for lineups to counter that - perhaps playing Obi at center and Quickley at PG.
It's annoying that Haliburton joined the Knicks trolling bandwagon. He played 31 minutes and scored 16? If Obi was given the same minutes he could have match or surpassed him. Someone should troll him back, the knicks passed on him to get a player who can score 30pts dish out 5 assists in just 25 mins! Maybe IQ would have scored 40pts if he was given 31 minutes like Haliburton. 😂
Jimbo5 wrote:It's annoying that Haliburton joined the Knicks trolling bandwagon. He played 31 minutes and scored 16? If Obi was given the same minutes he could have match or surpassed him. Someone should troll him back, the knicks passed on him to get a player who can score 30pts dish out 5 assists in just 25 mins! Maybe IQ would have scored 40pts if he was given 31 minutes like Haliburton. 😂
Fox laughed at us too at the lottery. Can’t relax until we face them again and kick their backsides!
technomaster wrote:It's exciting to watch Quickley progress over the course of his Knick career - it's just interesting that he's gained so much trust by the coaching staff that he basically has a greenlight to shoot whenever he's open. He's being given the same treatment Fizdale did with Trier... except he runs the plays first - and makes an initial read - if there's an open look behind the arc, take it, otherwise continue the play.
If the Knicks keep seeing the zone, they need to consider options for lineups to counter that - perhaps playing Obi at center and Quickley at PG.
every time i see Nerlens incapable of catching a lob i think of Obi in that role. On the other hand Nerlens is playing pretty good D
Don’t have a problem with this- IQ said he spent a lot of time studying Lou Williams, so I’d be very happy to see him in that role with us- helped win a lot of games for the Clippers in his role off then bench
smackeddog wrote:Don’t have a problem with this- IQ said he spent a lot of time studying Lou Williams, so I’d be very happy to see him in that role with us- helped win a lot of games for the Clippers in his role off then bench
This is what I'm very confident IQ can become, but with far better defense. In order for me to be as confident in his potential as a starting PG on a good team, we have to see a better handle, passing and finishing but so far he is way ahead of schedule.
Jimbo5 wrote:It's annoying that Haliburton joined the Knicks trolling bandwagon. He played 31 minutes and scored 16? If Obi was given the same minutes he could have match or surpassed him. Someone should troll him back, the knicks passed on him to get a player who can score 30pts dish out 5 assists in just 25 mins! Maybe IQ would have scored 40pts if he was given 31 minutes like Haliburton. 😂
Its so funny to me seeing Kings players talk shit when they are clearly the most disappointing franchise right now. We don't have anywhere near their level of talent but they still show no progression. Couldn't be us 
TPercy wrote:smackeddog wrote:Don’t have a problem with this- IQ said he spent a lot of time studying Lou Williams, so I’d be very happy to see him in that role with us- helped win a lot of games for the Clippers in his role off then bench
This is what I'm very confident IQ can become, but with far better defense. In order for me to be as confident in his potential as a starting PG on a good team, we have to see a better handle, passing and finishing but so far he is way ahead of schedule.
I'm the minority on this back when people was crowning him as the starter. I think he can and he will become the starter. But I see nothing wrong with taking this 6th man role serious. And since he follows Lue Williams, who knows if he really wants to start at pg. If u watch him play, he's more comfortable as a scoring guard, who looks for his shot 1st. Thats what a 6th man does. Let him be what he is naturally right now. He has a long promising career either way. What I love the most is his love for God and his maturity to even talk about his faith at such a young age. That equals stability and lowers risks that he can handle money and fame.
blkexec wrote:TPercy wrote:smackeddog wrote:Don’t have a problem with this- IQ said he spent a lot of time studying Lou Williams, so I’d be very happy to see him in that role with us- helped win a lot of games for the Clippers in his role off then bench
This is what I'm very confident IQ can become, but with far better defense. In order for me to be as confident in his potential as a starting PG on a good team, we have to see a better handle, passing and finishing but so far he is way ahead of schedule.
I'm the minority on this back when people was crowning him as the starter. I think he can and he will become the starter. But I see nothing wrong with taking this 6th man role serious. And since he follows Lue Williams, who knows if he really wants to start at pg. If u watch him play, he's more comfortable as a scoring guard, who looks for his shot 1st. Thats what a 6th man does. Let him be what he is naturally right now. He has a long promising career either way. What I love the most is his love for God and his maturity to even talk about his faith at such a young age. That equals stability and lowers risks that he can handle money and fame.
Yes. His mental toughness and maturity is one of the reasons I'm quite confident in his future.
for all of the bandwagon Start IQ fans (I agree with the below):
martin wrote:lol
Irrational exuberance...but it's SO nice for a change!
Moonangie wrote:martin wrote:lol
Irrational exuberance...but it's SO nice for a change!
I have to say, I have NOT been on the bandwagons for many of the new PGs brought in in the past when people were going goo-goo over Grant or Galloway or Mudiaye or Frank and countless others.
However, I feel like this time is different. This kid seems to have "it", and I'm onboard. Make room in the wagon. I will say though, I'm all for taking your time with rookies, and fully ok with Thibs bringing him along slowly. Esp in this city where the press eats players alive, I think better to think long term and let him come off the bench for the whole year if necessary. We're not winning a chip this year. No need to undermine your assets. Personally, I think we played KK and Barrett too much in their rookie years.
martin wrote:for all of the bandwagon Start IQ fans (I agree with the below):
INteresting take. Also he is building with Obi. Randle don’t look at rookies.
This reverse-jinx thread has transformed our lives as Knicks fans, Iq's ascension seemed to take on momentum immediately after it began!
BRIGGS wrote:He’s way to small
And he’s not quick or fast enough to make up for it2-24 last 4 games —- just can’t live with it— it’s not good enough
BRIGGS represents the issues I have with some knick fans....who makes the rest of us look impatient. But its not easy to come into this toxic environment of fans and the media whos only sits back and waits to post everything negative about each player or the team. When there are plenty of examples of players whos game matures at different times. Some early, some late.
We got lucky that quickley is showing promise early. But I believe we've had plenty of players in the past who couldn't handle this type of pressure to perform as an NBA vet and grown men. And you wonder why its so difficult to have a home grown player in NY. Looks like quickley will sneak through the cracks. Obi on the other hand, will continue to dodge every negative post from briggs and others. Until he shows his value. His day will come.
blkexec wrote:BRIGGS wrote:He’s way to small
And he’s not quick or fast enough to make up for it2-24 last 4 games —- just can’t live with it— it’s not good enough
BRIGGS represents the issues I have with some knick fans....who makes the rest of us look impatient. But its not easy to come into this toxic environment of fans and the media whos only sits back and waits to post everything negative about each player or the team. When there are plenty of examples of players whos game matures at different times. Some early, some late.
We got lucky that quickley is showing promise early. But I believe we've had plenty of players in the past who couldn't handle this type of pressure to perform as an NBA vet and grown men. And you wonder why its so difficult to have a home grown player in NY. Looks like quickley will sneak through the cracks. Obi on the other hand, will continue to dodge every negative post from briggs and others. Until he shows his value. His day will come.
Yes, development isn't one size fits all. You have some guys who are 19 years old and step right in and are great like Luka. Then you have guys like Jimmy Butler who played three years in college, came in as a 22 year old rookie and it takes him three years before he becomes who he is now.
I have confidence in Obi. All the talk about him being the most NBA ready and the favorite to win rookie of year because he's 22 years old may have set him up to look like a bust 20 games into his career. Gotta give him some time.
I know, I know...but just hear me out.
BigDaddyG wrote:I know, I know...but just hear me out.
Points per-36 minutes this season: Immanuel Quickley: 22.5 Kristaps Porzingis: 22.3
Wow. Randle AND Quickley outperforming KP in some respect. Whats their cap hit vs. Porzingis again?
Glad Rose kept Perry as GM. From Melo, KP, to Randle. Draft picks, cap space. His moves have aged well.
I hope Quickley keeps driving to the rim. Looks like Quickley has trouble driving and dunking in one motion. Hope he tries dunking with both hands, like Sprewell used to. Might give him a better windup.
martin wrote:
MArtin this is the THING. We differ on RJ's trajectory but all agree on his shortcomings (shooting/spacing) and what he needs next to him to succeed and IQ is like THE mold. Good 2 way player who can shoot and really pressure defense with this scoring. When that happens you see RJ alone vs. 1s and 2s and he just eats them up
Its just lovely to see a pair of kids like this being coached up and winning games. I love how Thibs loves them both. He's always gushing about IQ/RJ and those guys growing up under Thib's coaching is the best possible thing IMO
