Can't believe they lost to these bums
fitzfarm wrote:It pretty much was the rj and randle show and no one else showed up
Yeah the silver lining is we have these 2 guys who are gaining consistency and chemistry. It’s night and day compared to last year. The front office just needs to build around them properly.
BigDaddyG wrote:Can't believe they lost to these bums
Hard to win when you don't make threes.
BigDaddyG wrote:Can't believe they lost to these bums
Really hurts losing winnable games like this. On the bright side, at least Reggie Bullock and Noel got their cardio in.
BigDaddyG wrote:Can't believe they lost to these bums
I think other teams are thinking the same thing about our .500 team when it over achieves.
Burks looked like a guy who just came back from injury and the second night of a back to back.
SAC looks pretty good. Bagley was pretty active.
TPercy wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Just put a grand on the Kings to win. LmaoMartin, please do not make this the game thread. We know how accurate the Briggs prediction threads are. (ie. "We be hurtin" thread followed by a 40pt. quarter.) Knicks do not need this kind of Briggs jinxing just when we are getting it going. 
Try to warn youz guys!!
Blame it on Harrison Barnes
Back to back. Starters looked gassed, which usually means more mental mistakes. Burks was aggressive, his first game back. If he wasnt shaking off the rust, might have been closer.
Not saying Payton is the answer at PG. Still gets too much criticism. He's a two way player. With Randle, RJ, bringing up the ball, setting up the offense at times. Gives Payton the opportunity to play off the ball more, and put pressure on the D.
We've had so many PGs who have come through here who were good, but one dimensional. They would never drive. Payton plays D and attacks the rim. You rarely get a complete player in a stopgap PG. Glad what Payton brings to the table, considering his likely not starting next season.
Obi looks more like Amar'e every game. Moves in the same constricted way. Obi can also shoot the 3, and pass. Showing some D as well.
We got Obi and Quickley, when it would have been likely just Halliburton, if we drafted him. Showing he was a good pick, but I have no complaints about our "haul".
GustavBahler wrote:Back to back. Starters looked gassed, which usually means more mental mistakes. Burks was aggressive, his first game back. If he wasnt shaking off the rust, might have been closer.Not saying Payton is the answer at PG. Still gets too much criticism. He's a two way player. With Randle, RJ, bringing up the ball, setting up the offense at times. Gives Payton the opportunity to play off the ball more, and put pressure on the D.
We've had so many PGs who have come through here who were good, but one dimensional. They would never drive. Payton plays D and attacks the rim. You rarely get a complete player in a stopgap PG. Glad what Payton brings to the table, considering his likely not starting next season.
Obi looks more like Amar'e every game. Moves in the same constricted way. Obi can also shoot the 3, and pass. Showing some D as well.
We got Obi and Quickley, when it would have been likely just Halliburton, if we drafted him. Showing he was a good pick, but I have no complaints about our "haul".
The fact that RJ has been facilitating the offense more over the last 2 games ( I like RJ in the pick n roll) makes an even better case that Quickley should be getting more minutes with the starters. Quickley is a much better shooter than Elfrid and he showed and proved that he can play off the ball at Kentucky in catch and shoot situations. With Quick off the ball, it will add more spacing for RJ when he's running pick n roll. Elfrid doesn't add much on the offensive end when he doesn't have the ball. Also, one of things Payton actually did well in years past was passing. His assist numbers are down and his shot attempts are up. When he puts his head down and drives to the basket, almost 99% of the time he's putting it up regardless. Last year, he drop off dimes from time to time.
Obi moves like Amare, but the problem is he may be 2-3 inches shorter. Obi needs a stronger base and he needs to work on his handle if he's going to face up. When the front office drafted Obi, I don't think they imagined that Randle would improve as much as he has so far. If Randle can continue with this level of play, the front office has some decisions to make. Do we re-sign him next year? Is the front office gonna be cool with Obi clocking 12-15 minutes per game off the bench next year too? It's not a bad problem to have, though...
Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Back to back. Starters looked gassed, which usually means more mental mistakes. Burks was aggressive, his first game back. If he wasnt shaking off the rust, might have been closer.Not saying Payton is the answer at PG. Still gets too much criticism. He's a two way player. With Randle, RJ, bringing up the ball, setting up the offense at times. Gives Payton the opportunity to play off the ball more, and put pressure on the D.
We've had so many PGs who have come through here who were good, but one dimensional. They would never drive. Payton plays D and attacks the rim. You rarely get a complete player in a stopgap PG. Glad what Payton brings to the table, considering his likely not starting next season.
Obi looks more like Amar'e every game. Moves in the same constricted way. Obi can also shoot the 3, and pass. Showing some D as well.
We got Obi and Quickley, when it would have been likely just Halliburton, if we drafted him. Showing he was a good pick, but I have no complaints about our "haul".
The fact that RJ has been facilitating the offense more over the last 2 games ( I like RJ in the pick n roll) makes an even better case that Quickley should be getting more minutes with the starters. Quickley is a much better shooter than Elfrid and he showed and proved that he can play off the ball at Kentucky in catch and shoot situations. With Quick off the ball, it will add more spacing for RJ when he's running pick n roll. Elfrid doesn't add much on the offensive end when he doesn't have the ball. Also, one of things Payton actually did well in years past was passing. His assist numbers are down and his shot attempts are up. When he puts his head down and drives to the basket, almost 99% of the time he's putting it up regardless. Last year, he drop off dimes from time to time.
Obi moves like Amare, but the problem is he may be 2-3 inches shorter. Obi needs a stronger base and he needs to work on his handle if he's going to face up. When the front office drafted Obi, I don't think they imagined that Randle would improve as much as he has so far. If Randle can continue with this level of play, the front office has some decisions to make. Do we re-sign him next year? Is the front office gonna be cool with Obi clocking 12-15 minutes per game off the bench next year too? It's not a bad problem to have, though...
The advantage to Payton starting is Quickley finishing some games. Thibs had Payton guard Curry in crunch time, not Quickley for a reason. Didnt believe he was ready. IQ has been going against second units, for the most part. Starting Quickley would mean more minutes, and tougher defensive assignments. Dont see the rush.
Honestly couldnt tell Obi was shorter than Amar'e, the way he skied for a dunk, a few games ago. Stat never had much of a handle, until he went to Hakeem's big man sessions. Too bad the Rockets wont let him coach non-Houston players. Mchale, never seemed interested in teaching his post moves.
Believe we do need a big man coach who can teach Mitch, Obi (even Noel) how to properly box out, and post up. Does seem like a lost art these days.
GustavBahler wrote:
Believe we do need a big man coach who can teach Mitch, Obi (even Noel) how to properly box out, and post up. Does seem like a lost art these days.
I have a vague notion of there being a guy out there who might fit the bill. Believe his name is something like Patrick...
