I remember this moment vs Miami and wondering what they were talking about. RJs been getting to the line pretty consistently lately...
I was just coming to this thread to post this. RJ is a willing learner it’s quite telling given that I don’t think Butler gives that advice to anyone.
I don't trust Butler. He may be giving RJ bad advice to give himself an edge. lol!
Haha good thing he's playing well
A few weeks ago, that drive in the lane and 1 off that pass from Randle doesn't go in because he wouldn't have went up strong enough and would have played for the foul.
But comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle.
But comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle.
But comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle.
Wow
rare air......
Hmm. Weird cherry picking stat and writing. He’d be the 6th? If I’m reading this correctly, he’s on pace to be in a 3 way tie for the 4th, 5th, and 6th players to achieve this arbitrary stat line.
Zion and Lamelo Ball are the other 2 players doing it this season.
Given that the NBA season typically ends in June (ie half the year), this age 21 achievement is heavily biased in favor of players born in July or later - they potentially get an extra year to crack this threshold.
For what it’s worth, Tyler Herro is just outside the threshold - this is classified as his age 21 season (turned 21 in January) and his scoring is just under the 18 per 36 threshold (he’s averaging 17.5 per 36)at the moment.
(Just being technical)
martin@ 3/22/2021 6:05 PM
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But comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle.
Wow
rare air......
Hmm. Weird cherry picking stat and writing. He’d be the 6th? If I’m reading this correctly, he’s on pace to be in a 3 way tie for the 4th, 5th, and 6th players to achieve this arbitrary stat line.
Zion and Lamelo Ball are the other 2 players doing it this season.
Given that the NBA season typically ends in June (ie half the year), this age 21 achievement is heavily biased in favor of players born in July or later - they potentially get an extra year to crack this threshold.
For what it’s worth, Tyler Herro is just outside the threshold - this is classified as his age 21 season (turned 21 in January) and his scoring is just under the 18 per 36 threshold (he’s averaging 17.5 per 36)at the moment.
(Just being technical)
Master of techno and buzzkill!
Seriously, Im guessing that many good to great players came close to this stat (but no cigar). Not just lately.
Dont need data to see that RJ is something special. Generational special. 20 and already can easily score on almost anyone in the league.
We're used to high flyers having this kind of an impact on a game. And RJ is only getting started.
martin@ 3/23/2021 11:58 AM
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Why are we comparing RJ to scrubs? It's like comparing Julius Randle to Aaron Gordon or IQ to Payton Pritchard. We should be comparing RJ to heavy hitters like LeBron.
smackeddog@ 3/24/2021 3:31 PM
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I never liked Herro, even when all the writers were busting a nut over him during the bubble. Just seems like a streaky shooter to me- a Starks calibre player
Knixkik@ 3/24/2021 3:51 PM
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:
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I never liked Herro, even when all the writers were busting a nut over him during the bubble. Just seems like a streaky shooter to me- a Starks calibre player
I like Herro and think he can sort of end up like a lesser Beal type, but i wonder what has happened to him this year. He put placed out of position at PG and sort of lost his entire rhythm.
Welpee@ 3/24/2021 3:57 PM
Panos wrote:
martin wrote:
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I never liked Herro, even when all the writers were busting a nut over him during the bubble. Just seems like a streaky shooter to me- a Starks calibre player
Wait a minute! What are you trying to say about one of my favorite knick players John Starks!!!
technomaster@ 3/24/2021 5:24 PM
Welpee wrote:
Panos wrote:<snip> That DSjr is only 3 spots down from RJ tells you everything you need to know about that list.
Yeah, that chart seems VERY bogus. What metric indicates Knox improved in any way, shape or form from his rookie year to his sophomore season?
I never liked Herro, even when all the writers were busting a nut over him during the bubble. Just seems like a streaky shooter to me- a Starks calibre player
Wait a minute! What are you trying to say about one of my favorite knick players John Starks!!!
To the Heat: No need to troll RJ - he's got better tools AND ultimately, will probably be the better player when all is said and done... and likely, a top-3 player in their draft class. I don't think it's right to troll Herro - he's a hardworking, seemingly good dude who's outperforming his #13 slot. Ain't nothing wrong with that. (unless you disrespect RJ)
And... hey, John Starks... every basket is "TWO FROM THE HEART!"... Love that guy.
TPercy@ 3/24/2021 7:07 PM
technomaster wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Panos wrote:<snip> That DSjr is only 3 spots down from RJ tells you everything you need to know about that list.
Yeah, that chart seems VERY bogus. What metric indicates Knox improved in any way, shape or form from his rookie year to his sophomore season?
I like RAPTOR. Its not perfect but it definitely does a lot to take some of the nuances of the game into account. Like any wins based metric, its important to use multiple( RAPTOR, WAR, VORP, WS48, LEBRON) to get a more accurate picture. I don't see how DSJ or Knox are that big of holes to the list. Knox and DSJ were still awful players per the metric but their weaknesses weren't as bad exposed(probably because they weren't playing as much).
Welpee@ 3/24/2021 7:41 PM
TPercy wrote:
technomaster wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Panos wrote:<snip> That DSjr is only 3 spots down from RJ tells you everything you need to know about that list.
Yeah, that chart seems VERY bogus. What metric indicates Knox improved in any way, shape or form from his rookie year to his sophomore season?
I like RAPTOR. Its not perfect but it definitely does a lot to take some of the nuances of the game into account. Like any wins based metric, its important to use multiple( RAPTOR, WAR, VORP, WS48, LEBRON) to get a more accurate picture. I don't see how DSJ or Knox are that big of holes to the list. Knox and DSJ were still awful players per the metric but their weaknesses weren't as bad exposed(probably because they weren't playing as much).
Perfect example of why good old fashion watching people play still works in 2021.
